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    Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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    The wars that have been going on since the development of C++ has been going on in between those who praise C and those who praise C++; nice conversation with Linus Torvalds of other preachers[^]. By the way, I am with C! ;P

    The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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      The wars that have been going on since the development of C++ has been going on in between those who praise C and those who praise C++; nice conversation with Linus Torvalds of other preachers[^]. By the way, I am with C! ;P

      The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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      Garth J Lancaster
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      By the way, I am with C!

      good for you - I am with whatever language enables me to model an abstract idea in my head and turn it into something a computer can work with - at the moment, c# fits the bill, although Im not adverse to c++, c or a slew of other things as required (obviously I have my 'preferences', but I'll keep an open mind if I cant solve a situation using what Im comfortable with 'right now')

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        The wars that have been going on since the development of C++ has been going on in between those who praise C and those who praise C++; nice conversation with Linus Torvalds of other preachers[^]. By the way, I am with C! ;P

        The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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        Fortran V.

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          Fortran V.

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          Garth J Lancaster
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          yay !! lets hear it for number crunching - anyone for RPG ?

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            The wars that have been going on since the development of C++ has been going on in between those who praise C and those who praise C++; nice conversation with Linus Torvalds of other preachers[^]. By the way, I am with C! ;P

            The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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            BillWoodruff
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            As long as you keep posting links to intended-to-piss-people-off seven-year old articles: well, yes, the war is still on ... at least in your head :) cheers, Bill

            «To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"

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              As long as you keep posting links to intended-to-piss-people-off seven-year old articles: well, yes, the war is still on ... at least in your head :) cheers, Bill

              «To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"

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              He's just a bit behind the times... :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                yay !! lets hear it for number crunching - anyone for RPG ?

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                You think a Rocket Propelled Grenade might improve code quality? Could be right if you aim it at QA querists... :-D

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  By the way, I am with C!

                  good for you - I am with whatever language enables me to model an abstract idea in my head and turn it into something a computer can work with - at the moment, c# fits the bill, although Im not adverse to c++, c or a slew of other things as required (obviously I have my 'preferences', but I'll keep an open mind if I cant solve a situation using what Im comfortable with 'right now')

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                  Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                  C# prophecy is yet to come; so they don't fight right now! ;P

                  The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                    As long as you keep posting links to intended-to-piss-people-off seven-year old articles: well, yes, the war is still on ... at least in your head :) cheers, Bill

                    «To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"

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                    Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                    True, but that was still amazing how people would fight for nothing. ;)

                    The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                    • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

                      The wars that have been going on since the development of C++ has been going on in between those who praise C and those who praise C++; nice conversation with Linus Torvalds of other preachers[^]. By the way, I am with C! ;P

                      The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                      I prefer a metaview -- your choice of language will not make you a better programmer. Conversely, if you are a proficient programmer, you can apply good programming practices regardless of the language (even assembler) that you're working in. The expression "garbage in, garbage out" is one side of the coin. "bad programmer in, bad program out" is the other side. Marc

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                        I prefer a metaview -- your choice of language will not make you a better programmer. Conversely, if you are a proficient programmer, you can apply good programming practices regardless of the language (even assembler) that you're working in. The expression "garbage in, garbage out" is one side of the coin. "bad programmer in, bad program out" is the other side. Marc

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                        Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                        Nice saying... :) By the way, how can bad programmer in, bad program out make sense? Bad programmer would always make bad programs.

                        The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                          The wars that have been going on since the development of C++ has been going on in between those who praise C and those who praise C++; nice conversation with Linus Torvalds of other preachers[^]. By the way, I am with C! ;P

                          The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                          Mr. Torvalds may be the super smart creator of Linux and Git (quite a feat, I'll give him that!), he's still an asshole :) The best mr. Kakurin could've done was just ignore such rudeness. By the way, I believe mr. Torvalds is aware that he's an asshole and he's pretty much okay with it.

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                            I prefer a metaview -- your choice of language will not make you a better programmer. Conversely, if you are a proficient programmer, you can apply good programming practices regardless of the language (even assembler) that you're working in. The expression "garbage in, garbage out" is one side of the coin. "bad programmer in, bad program out" is the other side. Marc

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                            Assembly, sure. But even PHP?

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                              I prefer a metaview -- your choice of language will not make you a better programmer. Conversely, if you are a proficient programmer, you can apply good programming practices regardless of the language (even assembler) that you're working in. The expression "garbage in, garbage out" is one side of the coin. "bad programmer in, bad program out" is the other side. Marc

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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              if you are a proficient programmer, you can apply good programming practices regardless of the language (even especially assembler) that you're working in

                              FTFY :-D

                              Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs

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                                Nice saying... :) By the way, how can bad programmer in, bad program out make sense? Bad programmer would always make bad programs.

                                The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                                Not necessarily - they could get lucky. Doesn't happen very often (if at all) but it could. Conversely, it's very easy for a good programmer to create a total pile of steaming waset material if he doesn't pay attention.

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                  Nice saying... :) By the way, how can bad programmer in, bad program out make sense? Bad programmer would always make bad programs.

                                  The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                                  Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

                                  By the way, how can bad programmer in, bad program out make sense?

                                  Erm, like most pithy sayings, one shouldn't think too hard upon them. Marc

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                                    Assembly, sure. But even PHP?

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    harold aptroot wrote:

                                    But even PHP?

                                    Actually yes. I took some really crappy PHP that someone had written on a project I was working on and turned into well documented, nicely encapsulated, and most importantly of all, unit-testable code. So, as it turns out, PHP is decent, it's just the abuses of the idiot that wrote the PHP code that gave me a bad taste for the language at first. I'm also really impressed with the online documentation, particularly the actually useful additions that people contribute to the docs. That's quite rare. Marc

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                                      He's just a bit behind the times... :laugh: :thumbsup:

                                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                      Yeah. C# won the war.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

                                        The wars that have been going on since the development of C++ has been going on in between those who praise C and those who praise C++; nice conversation with Linus Torvalds of other preachers[^]. By the way, I am with C! ;P

                                        The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                                        Slacker007
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                                        With all the bickering over languages and technology, I wonder when any real programming gets done. :sigh: BTW, my car is faster than your car. :-D

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          Mr. Torvalds may be the super smart creator of Linux and Git (quite a feat, I'll give him that!), he's still an asshole :) The best mr. Kakurin could've done was just ignore such rudeness. By the way, I believe mr. Torvalds is aware that he's an asshole and he's pretty much okay with it.

                                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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                                          Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                                          I won't find it compelling for he create Linux or Git, because I don't use either one of them. :laugh: I use Windows and Team Foundation Server; Microsoft geek I am?

                                          The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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