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  • R Richard Deeming

    Brent Jenkins wrote:

    "no headphones in the office"

    They didn't say anything about playing your music through the speakers at maximum volume. :-D


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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    dandy72
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    That's what I was thinking. Speakers for everybody.

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    • T Tim Carmichael

      Is it a safety issue? Some people would play the music to the point they can't hear what goes on around them, like fire alarms, injured colleagues, requests for assistance. Try asking nicely, without prejudice and see what happens.

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      Lost User
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      Doubtful.. a few guys around me have worn earphones without any issues. We're open plan too so even if you couldn't hear the alarm, you'd still see people rushing out. Even if this was the case, I'm sure that they have the same issues with people who have hearing problems? What do they do in that case?

      Tim Carmichael wrote:

      Try asking nicely, without prejudice and see what happens.

      The way the email was worded, it's not up for discussion.

      How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        Cornelius Henning wrote:

        it was shown that music can be counter-productive in the workplace

        I dare to bet that a bad morale is much more counter-productive. And so is the sound that the music is probably covering up :)

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        Sander Rossel wrote:

        bad morale is much more counter-productive

        That's the one :laugh:

        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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          So this morning - the last day of the week just before a long weekend, so a positive moment you'd think, until we all got an email from management saying "no headphones in the office".. :( They've just spent millions having a new state of the art office built, all ultra-modern decked out like an Ikea catalogue with games rooms, sofas, a coffee shop and unlimited corporate slogans adorning the walls along the lines of "this is your office", "we want you to be happy", "work the way you want", and all the usual BS.. I guess whatever you want is fine as long as it's the same thing as what management want too.. this one email has probably undone a lot of the goodwill that's been built up within the company over the last few months :doh: The stupidest thing is that I don't listen to music that much in the office, but the fact that someone felt the need to send email like this reflects badly on the attitude of management in itself.. what a way to start a bank holiday weekend.

          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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          S Houghtelin
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          I love the headphones! It makes it easier to walk up behind someone and startle the heck out them. Seriously though, there is more evidence that music increases productivity[^]. Of course the research does point out that not all types of music increases creative abilities.

          It was broke, so I fixed it.

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            I love the headphones! It makes it easier to walk up behind someone and startle the heck out them. Seriously though, there is more evidence that music increases productivity[^]. Of course the research does point out that not all types of music increases creative abilities.

            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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            Lost User
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            Years ago I worked for a very small company - the director was a bit of a wide-boy and loved expensive suits. So much so, that he forced everyone else in the company to also wear suits. His reasoning was that it made him feel professional, so therefore it would make all of us feel professional too. Some people just refuse to accept that different people have different views on the world. I'd wager that the guy who's come up with the headphone rule here finds headphones distracting himself. Therefore.. banned for everybody.

            How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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            • L Lost User

              In a smaller company I would challenge it, but this is my second stint here and I know (from experience) that the quickest way to get kicked out is to start introducing logical arguments.

              How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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              Dan Neely
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              You just need to find the right thing to push back with. I'm partial to fine products from Peoria[^].

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              • S S Houghtelin

                I love the headphones! It makes it easier to walk up behind someone and startle the heck out them. Seriously though, there is more evidence that music increases productivity[^]. Of course the research does point out that not all types of music increases creative abilities.

                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                Silvabolt
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                I'm still trying to find out how to not get startled by someone while wearing headphones. Happens almost every time since my group is in an open area with all our backs facing the center.

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                • N newton saber

                  Cornelius Henning wrote:

                  especially if it is not purely instrumental

                  actually, very true. Human voices and words in your native language are very distracting. That is why the Best Must Choice of GREAT DEVELOPERS AROUND the World is INSTRUMENTAL JAZZ!!

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                  Vark111
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                  newton.saber wrote:

                  That is why the Best Must Choice of GREAT DEVELOPERS AROUND the World is INSTRUMENTAL JAZZ!!

                  Philistine. Orchestral or nothing.

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                    I'm still trying to find out how to not get startled by someone while wearing headphones. Happens almost every time since my group is in an open area with all our backs facing the center.

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                    S Houghtelin
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                    I have one of these[^] stuck on my monitor.

                    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                    • L Lost User

                      So this morning - the last day of the week just before a long weekend, so a positive moment you'd think, until we all got an email from management saying "no headphones in the office".. :( They've just spent millions having a new state of the art office built, all ultra-modern decked out like an Ikea catalogue with games rooms, sofas, a coffee shop and unlimited corporate slogans adorning the walls along the lines of "this is your office", "we want you to be happy", "work the way you want", and all the usual BS.. I guess whatever you want is fine as long as it's the same thing as what management want too.. this one email has probably undone a lot of the goodwill that's been built up within the company over the last few months :doh: The stupidest thing is that I don't listen to music that much in the office, but the fact that someone felt the need to send email like this reflects badly on the attitude of management in itself.. what a way to start a bank holiday weekend.

                      How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                      Kevin Marois
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                      Brent Jenkins wrote:

                      Re: Music banned, office morale de-enhanced..!?

                      Music isn't banned - HEADPHONES are. Have everyone turn on Pandora and tune to their favorite channel..

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        Brent Jenkins wrote:

                        Re: Music banned, office morale de-enhanced..!?

                        Music isn't banned - HEADPHONES are. Have everyone turn on Pandora and tune to their favorite channel..

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                        Coder (Hired) wrote:

                        Music isn't banned - HEADPHONES are.

                        We did consider having a singalong, but considering that people here have been told "no talking" before... :laugh:

                        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                        • L Lost User

                          In a smaller company I would challenge it, but this is my second stint here and I know (from experience) that the quickest way to get kicked out is to start introducing logical arguments.

                          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                          mikepwilson
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                          Then leave. Sounds like a shithole of a job.

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                          • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                            I work for a US corporation and I can assure you that the US corporate style is far worse, whilst the flash IT world may be Google etc the majority of US corporations are even worse than those in the UK.

                            You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                            mikepwilson
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                            Been working in big finance, insurance, R&D, dot-com startup and marketing industries for the past 30 years. I've never seen anything so bad as this, much less worse.

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                            • L Lost User

                              So this morning - the last day of the week just before a long weekend, so a positive moment you'd think, until we all got an email from management saying "no headphones in the office".. :( They've just spent millions having a new state of the art office built, all ultra-modern decked out like an Ikea catalogue with games rooms, sofas, a coffee shop and unlimited corporate slogans adorning the walls along the lines of "this is your office", "we want you to be happy", "work the way you want", and all the usual BS.. I guess whatever you want is fine as long as it's the same thing as what management want too.. this one email has probably undone a lot of the goodwill that's been built up within the company over the last few months :doh: The stupidest thing is that I don't listen to music that much in the office, but the fact that someone felt the need to send email like this reflects badly on the attitude of management in itself.. what a way to start a bank holiday weekend.

                              How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              Grin and ignore it. Or use ear buds instead of headphones.

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                Grin and ignore it. Or use ear buds instead of headphones.

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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                Grin and ignore it.

                                Thought you said Gin for a minute.. :laugh:

                                How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  So this morning - the last day of the week just before a long weekend, so a positive moment you'd think, until we all got an email from management saying "no headphones in the office".. :( They've just spent millions having a new state of the art office built, all ultra-modern decked out like an Ikea catalogue with games rooms, sofas, a coffee shop and unlimited corporate slogans adorning the walls along the lines of "this is your office", "we want you to be happy", "work the way you want", and all the usual BS.. I guess whatever you want is fine as long as it's the same thing as what management want too.. this one email has probably undone a lot of the goodwill that's been built up within the company over the last few months :doh: The stupidest thing is that I don't listen to music that much in the office, but the fact that someone felt the need to send email like this reflects badly on the attitude of management in itself.. what a way to start a bank holiday weekend.

                                  How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                                  That does seem silly.  I can understand them requiring you to control your headphone volume so that it doesn't disturb others, but banning listening to music through headphones appears to be a decision made by someone who is commonsense disadvantaged. /ravi

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                                    So this morning - the last day of the week just before a long weekend, so a positive moment you'd think, until we all got an email from management saying "no headphones in the office".. :( They've just spent millions having a new state of the art office built, all ultra-modern decked out like an Ikea catalogue with games rooms, sofas, a coffee shop and unlimited corporate slogans adorning the walls along the lines of "this is your office", "we want you to be happy", "work the way you want", and all the usual BS.. I guess whatever you want is fine as long as it's the same thing as what management want too.. this one email has probably undone a lot of the goodwill that's been built up within the company over the last few months :doh: The stupidest thing is that I don't listen to music that much in the office, but the fact that someone felt the need to send email like this reflects badly on the attitude of management in itself.. what a way to start a bank holiday weekend.

                                    How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                    Mycroft Holmes
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                                    Ok so they stick you in a an open plan office (we are on benches with 600 people on a floor) give you some nice shiny stuff and expect you to concentrate. Idjits! We are 3 years down the track on the new building thingy, taps are starting to break, plumbing tends to leak, there is a wet carpet smell every Monday morning, the chairs are losing their gas, wifi is so secure you cannot use it, meeting/conference room networking fails 20% of the time. They banned rubbish bins, everyone has a little pile of garbage on their desks to be trundled out to the big bins. They implemented a clean desk policy, no papers to be left exposed. FFFAAaarrrrkkkkkk

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      newton.saber wrote:

                                      That is why the Best Must Choice of GREAT DEVELOPERS AROUND the World is INSTRUMENTAL JAZZ!!

                                      Philistine. Orchestral or nothing.

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                                      newton saber
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                                      What!?! Jazz _is_ the new Orchestral. Get out of the past, Grandpa! :D I'm kidding. I like classical music too. Relax, Grandpa. :)

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                                      • D Dan Neely

                                        You just need to find the right thing to push back with. I'm partial to fine products from Peoria[^].

                                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                        Member 4194593
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                                        Certainly should be able to "push back" with that! Dave.

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                                        • M Mycroft Holmes

                                          Ok so they stick you in a an open plan office (we are on benches with 600 people on a floor) give you some nice shiny stuff and expect you to concentrate. Idjits! We are 3 years down the track on the new building thingy, taps are starting to break, plumbing tends to leak, there is a wet carpet smell every Monday morning, the chairs are losing their gas, wifi is so secure you cannot use it, meeting/conference room networking fails 20% of the time. They banned rubbish bins, everyone has a little pile of garbage on their desks to be trundled out to the big bins. They implemented a clean desk policy, no papers to be left exposed. FFFAAaarrrrkkkkkk

                                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                          They banned rubbish bins, everyone has a little pile of garbage on their desks to be trundled out to the big bins. They implemented a clean desk policy, no papers to be left exposed.

                                          That sounds very familiar..

                                          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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