Google now tries to holds you to ransom to get your telephone number
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I understand you might find this hard to beleive because it goes against everything your are being told but i scanned 700,000 google Urls (It was all i could find in English) and three months later I tested to see who was still up and running and if the site went 404 then i ran a DNS-Looup to see if the domain name had been removed. Take it from me small sites are droping like flies because people have learned that you cannot make a profit from running a little site with adverts at the top that cover something like "How to knit" and google is playing a big part in this happening because not only do they get no income but these sites get few visitors and are hidden on page 99 of googles personlized search results even if they are good unless they pay google some cash. Two stage registration won't help matters. Sorry i don't know if big sites are getting bigger but i do know that the end result is less work for us.
Dr Gadgit wrote:
Two stage registration won't help matters.
...ummmm.... Two Step Verification doesn't have anything to do with Google search or advertising. You seem to have a bias and an agenda as it relates to Google. Good luck with that...
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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It's just a phone number man. I'm all for privacy, but it's not like they're looking up your wife's skirt.
Jeremy Falcon
I am no expert in anyway when it comes to G3/4 phones but did you know that network providers are not allowed to encrypt voice calls and you have to resort to installing a App on both ends of the call to stop anyone listening in. Why do you think the law is like that ? Are we all to be treate as terrorists, guilty until proved inocent. Stupid David Cameron even talked about banning HTTPS on the internet and was shown to be a fool but SSL is not half as secure as people think it is anyway, see my research Did you also know that fake phone masts are being set up all the time to intercept calls and then relay them on to real cell phone stations or they can even do this from helicopters. No they might not be looking up my wifes knickers but i don't want it public knowlage if i want too look only to find out that Google has traded my gay boyfreinds address for this bit of information. If they are going to such lengths to spy on us then i will go to any lengths to stop them.
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I am no expert in anyway when it comes to G3/4 phones but did you know that network providers are not allowed to encrypt voice calls and you have to resort to installing a App on both ends of the call to stop anyone listening in. Why do you think the law is like that ? Are we all to be treate as terrorists, guilty until proved inocent. Stupid David Cameron even talked about banning HTTPS on the internet and was shown to be a fool but SSL is not half as secure as people think it is anyway, see my research Did you also know that fake phone masts are being set up all the time to intercept calls and then relay them on to real cell phone stations or they can even do this from helicopters. No they might not be looking up my wifes knickers but i don't want it public knowlage if i want too look only to find out that Google has traded my gay boyfreinds address for this bit of information. If they are going to such lengths to spy on us then i will go to any lengths to stop them.
I totally agree with what you're saying, but I would take that up with the phone providers or the government before blaming websites that ask for a number. It's blaming the wrong party.
Jeremy Falcon
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I totally agree with what you're saying, but I would take that up with the phone providers or the government before blaming websites that ask for a number. It's blaming the wrong party.
Jeremy Falcon
TV's, Tablets, Laptops and phones are all merging into one and if we give into them wanting our phone numbers then will it be our national insurance number next because they think they can own you. Google is so big in parts of india that the locals think the internet is google. My privacy has no price and politicians who should be passing laws to protect it are taking payments from corporaions to infrindge more into my life whilst at the same time trying to squash freedom of speech. Feel free to shoot me down but i see a time not too far away when you have to decide if you will let them implant you with a RFID chip (Like a dog) to get that new job all for security reasons ofcourse and not only that but you will be made to ware a form of google glasses just so the manager can keep an eye on you, it's all profit you know. We are well past the point were we need to take up this fight and should be pushing back. See http://www.truthorfiction.com/nbc-rfid-chips-prediction/ also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934241/Swedish-company-implants-microchips-staff.html I won't have any part of this madness anymore Ho, yes and this is from a guy that built a system for a well known corporation that turned workers into slaves and had them scanning bar code every ten seconds after unpacking goods and even scanning a bar-code on the toilet door when they went for a pee and that was ten years ago.
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Lots of people who have flead facebook don't share your views but if they have your number then rest assured it has been traded with Google. I know this sounds silly unless you think about it but too me data has become a type of bit-coin to be traded, replicated and swapped as if it has real value. (Banks also trade and replicate money, it's called fractional reverse banking if you care to check) its a bit like the 400 trillon $UDS worth of credit default swaps that are washing around the banking system where the name of the game is to accumlate more even if like funney money in the banking system this wealth can never be cased in for real goods without crashing the system. Just think you are helping Facebook who has never turned a cent in profit during its history to push up its share value to something above $10bn so how does that work
A phone book must really freak you out then... I can change my phone number at any time. My phone number isn't me - it doesn't uniquely identify me. Unlike a social security number or thumbprint it may have belonged to someone else in the past or it may belong to someone else in the future. It is amazing to me that the average American citizen freaks out over Google having a phone number and the same borderline paranoid tool votes for Obama who has made our medical records the purview of the Internal Revenue Service. The government listening in on thousands of calls, breaking privacy laws left and right - and people get upset over a phone number that is available in a directory. I'm upset Google has my phone number because, I dunno, they might call me; however, I don't care that the government is recording my phone calls. <---- *boggle*
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A phone book must really freak you out then... I can change my phone number at any time. My phone number isn't me - it doesn't uniquely identify me. Unlike a social security number or thumbprint it may have belonged to someone else in the past or it may belong to someone else in the future. It is amazing to me that the average American citizen freaks out over Google having a phone number and the same borderline paranoid tool votes for Obama who has made our medical records the purview of the Internal Revenue Service. The government listening in on thousands of calls, breaking privacy laws left and right - and people get upset over a phone number that is available in a directory. I'm upset Google has my phone number because, I dunno, they might call me; however, I don't care that the government is recording my phone calls. <---- *boggle*
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MehGerbil wrote:
the average American citizen freaks out over Google having a phone number
Look again... this dude isn't average or American.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
Oh boy, I have bad news for you. Do you have a friend with Android phone? If so, then they already have your phone number. Do your friends use Facebook? I bet at lease one of them shared their contact list, so Facebook have your phone number, email and name too.
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Oh boy, I have bad news for you. Do you have a friend with Android phone? If so, then they already have your phone number. Do your friends use Facebook? I bet at lease one of them shared their contact list, so Facebook have your phone number, email and name too.
Me misses only hooked up to whatApp so i know i am stuffed with the current number but maybe i won't be conditioned like others to just accept that we should all be watched. What kind of world are we building if we just go along with it because its easy
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
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Seems like they're getting more persistent all the time. I don't give out my phone number to just anyone...what kind of guy do you think I am? :)
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site. I know the voices in my head are not real but damn they come up with some good ideas!
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
I think you're over-reacting. Honestly, it's a freaking phone number. Who cares?
Dr Gadgit wrote:
hey have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world
If there's a spy script on my website, it's because I put it there, or because the provider (like SquareSpace) put it there. And as far as Squarespace putting it there, all the better, as it provides some automatic indexing that makes my website more visible. Marc
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Seems like they're getting more persistent all the time. I don't give out my phone number to just anyone...what kind of guy do you think I am? :)
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site. I know the voices in my head are not real but damn they come up with some good ideas!
I thought we were just haggling over the price!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
Hey Doc, you can borrow my tin foil hat, sounds like you need it more than I do. I applaud your paranoia, but then I have similar attitudes, just not the dedication to do something about it! While I try hard to minimise the exposure of personal data I don't take it to extremes. Google has my phone number and probably every other salient, or at least commercial piece of information about me, I own a phone :sigh: I still think you are even more nuts than I am :laugh:
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
I consider my everyday phone number about as private as my house's street number, both simply being means to direct communications to my. If I wanted to discuss anything off record, I'd simply get another one just for that purpose.
No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
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A phone book must really freak you out then... I can change my phone number at any time. My phone number isn't me - it doesn't uniquely identify me. Unlike a social security number or thumbprint it may have belonged to someone else in the past or it may belong to someone else in the future. It is amazing to me that the average American citizen freaks out over Google having a phone number and the same borderline paranoid tool votes for Obama who has made our medical records the purview of the Internal Revenue Service. The government listening in on thousands of calls, breaking privacy laws left and right - and people get upset over a phone number that is available in a directory. I'm upset Google has my phone number because, I dunno, they might call me; however, I don't care that the government is recording my phone calls. <---- *boggle*
MehGerbil wrote:
A phone book must really freak you out then...
:laugh:
No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde
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there's a very good reason: it helps keep people from hacking into your account(s).
Keeping things in boxes under your pillow helps keep people from stealing them. Storing such information on the server of a foreign company just makes it available to the government of that country, and puts it all in one place to be hacked in one go -- although that would never happen, would it? I mean, who would spend a few months figuring out how to hack a server that's full of wonders, rather than spend a few days each on individual Internet users, managing maybe six a month?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Keeping things in boxes under your pillow helps keep people from stealing them. Storing such information on the server of a foreign company just makes it available to the government of that country, and puts it all in one place to be hacked in one go -- although that would never happen, would it? I mean, who would spend a few months figuring out how to hack a server that's full of wonders, rather than spend a few days each on individual Internet users, managing maybe six a month?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
this might come as a shock to you, but your phone provider knows your phone number, so does everyone you call. it is not sensitive confidential identification, it's a phone number.
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So i had this old Youtube account and wanted to log in but as you know Youtube makes you use Google gmail and google then pops up a message saying that for my protection they need to send me a SMS to my phone just to ensure its me. Are you stupid or something. Google is not getting my phone number for any price since they have spy scripts (Often Hidden in SSL) on just about ever web-site in the world and they still want more blood. I went to create a new YT account and opted out of receiving a SMS text message by linking to an old email address and as soon as i went to use the account, youtube asked for my phone number again. Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet. Who's internet, Our internet so get lost Google
Dr Gadgit wrote:
Don't be fooled people, it's not for your protection but so the nanny state can pay google/YT to spy on you and know ever word you post on the internet.
Actually - that Nanny State you speak of would be more likely to pass a law to protect you from yourself by forbidding Google for doing what they do. But - partly because CP is the closest I have to membership in a social network and partly because I've been worried about my privacy before it was in fashion, I have no sympathy for complaints by the oh-so-many people with gmail accounts. One agrees, after all, that google can do what they like with your mail for as long as they like. The beacon/etc. on nearly every sight - can be blocked with Ghostery - SSL cookies, too, can be managed/deleted, etc. Google's not doing anything every other business is doing. They might suck, but not especially so. I don't want a YT/Twatter/other account and do not text - and it isn't google that's hassling me over it.
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