Future of C++ and Windows Programming :: C++
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Hi. I posted a topic a few days ago about the future of COM. Overall, most responses implied that COM in general has and will become .NET legacy. The bottomline is Microsoft is dropping COM for .NET. Microsoft will release Longhorn and I am sure they are working on other versions of their line of OS. According to several articles on the future of Windows development, .NET is taking over Windows. http://www.codeproject.com/interview/interview\_msdn\_0103.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/vstudio/vstudio\_121802.asp http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,642737,00.asp What is the future of C++ programming in Windows? Microsoft can make C++ obsolete under Windows as they push .NET. I have no problem with .NET. I am just curious about C++ programming in Windows because, well, it is fun! Thanks, Kuphryn
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Hi. I posted a topic a few days ago about the future of COM. Overall, most responses implied that COM in general has and will become .NET legacy. The bottomline is Microsoft is dropping COM for .NET. Microsoft will release Longhorn and I am sure they are working on other versions of their line of OS. According to several articles on the future of Windows development, .NET is taking over Windows. http://www.codeproject.com/interview/interview\_msdn\_0103.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/vstudio/vstudio\_121802.asp http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,642737,00.asp What is the future of C++ programming in Windows? Microsoft can make C++ obsolete under Windows as they push .NET. I have no problem with .NET. I am just curious about C++ programming in Windows because, well, it is fun! Thanks, Kuphryn
As long as there exists some sort of native coding requirements, C++ will rule. But, if the majority of coding is targetting the CLR then I am very much afraid C# and VB.NET will overtake C++ as the dominant application/system develepment language. This is where I think MC++ is so important. It will at least let you code in C++. Best of both worlds. It wont last long, but you can get the last dying taste of C++ through MC++. Put simply, Managed C++ is C++'s last weapon. The final scud so to speak. If C++ dies, MC++ will be it's last genuine member. Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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As long as there exists some sort of native coding requirements, C++ will rule. But, if the majority of coding is targetting the CLR then I am very much afraid C# and VB.NET will overtake C++ as the dominant application/system develepment language. This is where I think MC++ is so important. It will at least let you code in C++. Best of both worlds. It wont last long, but you can get the last dying taste of C++ through MC++. Put simply, Managed C++ is C++'s last weapon. The final scud so to speak. If C++ dies, MC++ will be it's last genuine member. Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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I have been programming C++ for about two years and I have yet to see any significant limitation. What the heck is up with people liking Java and .NET? Kuphryn
kuphryn wrote: What the heck is up with people liking Java and .NET? Ease of use No memory leaks Fewer crashes Easier to learn for newbies Requires less amount of hard work to master Does not require high IQ Garbage collection Massive class library MS marketing Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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kuphryn wrote: What the heck is up with people liking Java and .NET? Ease of use No memory leaks Fewer crashes Easier to learn for newbies Requires less amount of hard work to master Does not require high IQ Garbage collection Massive class library MS marketing Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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kuphryn wrote: Oh, you mean you dont have to be a programmer to learn VB, Java and .NET? Okay. Well, I wouldn't be that harsh, but it takes as much skill and effort to write a full fledged Windows Service using C# and .NET as it takes to write a C++ program to compare two integers and print out the greater of them. And this is just one random example I mention. Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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I have been programming C++ for about two years and I have yet to see any significant limitation. What the heck is up with people liking Java and .NET? Kuphryn
One advantage I have had using .NET for application development is, its library is so vast that lots of things are readymade. You can always concentrate on the programming logic without having to waste your time on developing libraries for implementation. Smitha The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. --Eleanor Roosevelt
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Hi. I posted a topic a few days ago about the future of COM. Overall, most responses implied that COM in general has and will become .NET legacy. The bottomline is Microsoft is dropping COM for .NET. Microsoft will release Longhorn and I am sure they are working on other versions of their line of OS. According to several articles on the future of Windows development, .NET is taking over Windows. http://www.codeproject.com/interview/interview\_msdn\_0103.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/vstudio/vstudio\_121802.asp http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,642737,00.asp What is the future of C++ programming in Windows? Microsoft can make C++ obsolete under Windows as they push .NET. I have no problem with .NET. I am just curious about C++ programming in Windows because, well, it is fun! Thanks, Kuphryn
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Hi. I posted a topic a few days ago about the future of COM. Overall, most responses implied that COM in general has and will become .NET legacy. The bottomline is Microsoft is dropping COM for .NET. Microsoft will release Longhorn and I am sure they are working on other versions of their line of OS. According to several articles on the future of Windows development, .NET is taking over Windows. http://www.codeproject.com/interview/interview\_msdn\_0103.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/vstudio/vstudio\_121802.asp http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,642737,00.asp What is the future of C++ programming in Windows? Microsoft can make C++ obsolete under Windows as they push .NET. I have no problem with .NET. I am just curious about C++ programming in Windows because, well, it is fun! Thanks, Kuphryn
I suspect if you get a job at Microsoft and develop the .Net runtime you will still be able to use C++ :)
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Hi. I posted a topic a few days ago about the future of COM. Overall, most responses implied that COM in general has and will become .NET legacy. The bottomline is Microsoft is dropping COM for .NET. Microsoft will release Longhorn and I am sure they are working on other versions of their line of OS. According to several articles on the future of Windows development, .NET is taking over Windows. http://www.codeproject.com/interview/interview\_msdn\_0103.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/vstudio/vstudio\_121802.asp http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,642737,00.asp What is the future of C++ programming in Windows? Microsoft can make C++ obsolete under Windows as they push .NET. I have no problem with .NET. I am just curious about C++ programming in Windows because, well, it is fun! Thanks, Kuphryn
With everything going web based I predict that everything will be one big client side Javascript app. The meek shall inherit the desktop. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Hi. I posted a topic a few days ago about the future of COM. Overall, most responses implied that COM in general has and will become .NET legacy. The bottomline is Microsoft is dropping COM for .NET. Microsoft will release Longhorn and I am sure they are working on other versions of their line of OS. According to several articles on the future of Windows development, .NET is taking over Windows. http://www.codeproject.com/interview/interview\_msdn\_0103.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/vstudio/vstudio\_121802.asp http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,642737,00.asp What is the future of C++ programming in Windows? Microsoft can make C++ obsolete under Windows as they push .NET. I have no problem with .NET. I am just curious about C++ programming in Windows because, well, it is fun! Thanks, Kuphryn
kuphryn wrote: _According to several articles on the future of Windows development, .NET is taking over Windows. http://www.codeproject.com/interview/interview\_msdn\_0103.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/vstudio/vstudio\_121802.asp http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,642737,00.asp_ Which reminds me the poor level of free articles, wherever they come from. .NET is a virtual machine + a class library sitting on top of Windows. .NET is a WIN32 client, not the opposite, and I can't figure out how many tens of ghz CPU you would need in order to make an hypothetic .NET-centric OS run seamlessly (not to mention the GBs of source code you would need to make this happen).
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kuphryn wrote: Oh, you mean you dont have to be a programmer to learn VB, Java and .NET? Okay. Hell real programmers write in assembly; who needs this high-level C++ crap. ;) Don't be ignorant, anybody can learn any language, where real programming comes to play is efficiently implementing a solution within a set of arbitrary constraints. That only comes from experience and the humility to ask questions. You can try to make yourself feel good because you know a language but that doesn't prove that you know how to program or that you have a high IQ. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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kuphryn wrote: What the heck is up with people liking Java and .NET? Ease of use No memory leaks Fewer crashes Easier to learn for newbies Requires less amount of hard work to master Does not require high IQ Garbage collection Massive class library MS marketing Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Nishant S wrote: Easier to learn for newbies No. It's easier the first day...until you start debugging. And then, oh my god!!!!! :eek:
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With everything going web based I predict that everything will be one big client side Javascript app. The meek shall inherit the desktop. cheers, Chris Maunder
Missing <sarcasm> tag.
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One advantage I have had using .NET for application development is, its library is so vast that lots of things are readymade. You can always concentrate on the programming logic without having to waste your time on developing libraries for implementation. Smitha The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. --Eleanor Roosevelt
Smitha Vijayan wrote: You can always concentrate on the programming logic without having to waste your time on developing libraries for implementation. That's very untrue. You need to know how the .NET libraries are implemented before you can come up with derived treeviews for instance that behave well. And don't get me started on that interop mess.
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Missing <sarcasm> tag.
Am I? :D cheers, Chris Maunder
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kuphryn wrote: _According to several articles on the future of Windows development, .NET is taking over Windows. http://www.codeproject.com/interview/interview\_msdn\_0103.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/vstudio/vstudio\_121802.asp http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,642737,00.asp_ Which reminds me the poor level of free articles, wherever they come from. .NET is a virtual machine + a class library sitting on top of Windows. .NET is a WIN32 client, not the opposite, and I can't figure out how many tens of ghz CPU you would need in order to make an hypothetic .NET-centric OS run seamlessly (not to mention the GBs of source code you would need to make this happen).
At least we offer a money back guarantee. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Smitha Vijayan wrote: You can always concentrate on the programming logic without having to waste your time on developing libraries for implementation. That's very untrue. You need to know how the .NET libraries are implemented before you can come up with derived treeviews for instance that behave well. And don't get me started on that interop mess.
.S.Rod. wrote: come up with derived treeviews for instance that behave well. I will attest to this; at work I wasted half a day on what was susposed to be a simple derived treeview. Not to mention I am not happy with the overall performance of the app....just seems slugish Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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kuphryn wrote: _According to several articles on the future of Windows development, .NET is taking over Windows. http://www.codeproject.com/interview/interview\_msdn\_0103.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/vstudio/vstudio\_121802.asp http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,642737,00.asp_ Which reminds me the poor level of free articles, wherever they come from. .NET is a virtual machine + a class library sitting on top of Windows. .NET is a WIN32 client, not the opposite, and I can't figure out how many tens of ghz CPU you would need in order to make an hypothetic .NET-centric OS run seamlessly (not to mention the GBs of source code you would need to make this happen).
The java true bleivers have been sticking to the same thing for years...."just you wait till we get a native JAVA OS....blah blah blah" Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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The java true bleivers have been sticking to the same thing for years...."just you wait till we get a native JAVA OS....blah blah blah" Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
What they don't tell you is that it has been out for a while. They are still waiting for it to boot. :) The Ten Commandments For C Programmers