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MEAN vs. LAMP for the future of programming

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  • K Kent Sharkey

    Infoworld[^]:

    LAMP diehards take note: The flexible simplicity of MongoDB, ExpressJS, AngularJS, and Node.js is no joke.

    Unless you'd prefer to use MEDIAN (but you're on your own for the acronym)

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    Sander Rossel
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    It doesn't stop at MEAN though! I've come across ANNE (Angular, Node.js, Neo4J, Express), BEANS (Bootstrap, Express, Angular, Node.js, Socket.io) and EARN (Express, Angular, Redis, Node.js) too! Can't wait to see what they come up with next :D

    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

    Regards, Sander

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    • M Marc Clifton

      I have no idea what LAMP is and (since you provided the definition of the acronym) I have no interest in touching MEAN. MEDIAN: Marc's Everlasting Denial In All Nut-techs. Marc

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      LAMP: Linux... uhm, Apache, MySQL, and either/both/all of PHP/Perl/Python I think.

      TTFN - Kent

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      • K Kent Sharkey

        LAMP: Linux... uhm, Apache, MySQL, and either/both/all of PHP/Perl/Python I think.

        TTFN - Kent

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        Marc Clifton
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        Kent Sharkey wrote:

        I think.

        Pretty good for not looking it up. Wow, two stacks I will never use. Marc

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Sander Rossel wrote:

          Oh, but you should![^]

          Nah. NoSQL - refuse to touch it. Express - have no idea what it even is. Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it. Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript Marc

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          Express is just a small framework to work with Node.js. It makes routing and adding middleware, exception handling and templating easy. Other popular alternatives are Hapi and Sails. You know I'm no fan of JavaScript, but MEAN has my interest. It's like REALLY flexible across the entire stack. And you're using just one language across your entire stack too. Sure, too bad that's JavaScript, but I don't even think it would be possible with any other language... I can really recommend just spending a Saturday afternoon with MEAN for fun and giggles and see what the hype is about :)

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Kent Sharkey wrote:

            I think.

            Pretty good for not looking it up. Wow, two stacks I will never use. Marc

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            You're totally a closet PHP programmer. Come on now, admit it!

            Jeremy Falcon

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              You're totally a closet PHP programmer. Come on now, admit it!

              Jeremy Falcon

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              Marc Clifton
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              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              You're totally a closet PHP programmer. Come on now, admit it!

              Well ok, I confess. I wrote a few hundred lines of PHP. Actually enjoyed it. Marc

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                It doesn't stop at MEAN though! I've come across ANNE (Angular, Node.js, Neo4J, Express), BEANS (Bootstrap, Express, Angular, Node.js, Socket.io) and EARN (Express, Angular, Redis, Node.js) too! Can't wait to see what they come up with next :D

                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                ed welch
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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                Can't wait to see what they come up with next

                BONER: Bootstrap, OrientDB, Node.js, Express, React.js

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                • E ed welch

                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  Can't wait to see what they come up with next

                  BONER: Bootstrap, OrientDB, Node.js, Express, React.js

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                  :laugh: :thumbsup:

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    I have no idea what LAMP is and (since you provided the definition of the acronym) I have no interest in touching MEAN. MEDIAN: Marc's Everlasting Denial In All Nut-techs. Marc

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                    Rob Grainger
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                    LAMP = Linux, Apache, MySQL + PHP. Personally, I'd avoid any stack invoking PHP like the plague.

                    "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      It doesn't stop at MEAN though! I've come across ANNE (Angular, Node.js, Neo4J, Express), BEANS (Bootstrap, Express, Angular, Node.js, Socket.io) and EARN (Express, Angular, Redis, Node.js) too! Can't wait to see what they come up with next :D

                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      szukuro
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                      Bootstrap, Angular, Cassandra, OrientJS, Node.js. Yumm!

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                      • S szukuro

                        Bootstrap, Angular, Cassandra, OrientJS, Node.js. Yumm!

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                        Sander Rossel
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                        Using the Orient driver with a Cassandra database? That doesn't even make any sense! :laugh:

                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                        Regards, Sander

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          Oh, but you should![^]

                          Nah. NoSQL - refuse to touch it. Express - have no idea what it even is. Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it. Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript Marc

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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it. Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript

                          :confused:

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                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            Oh, but you should![^]

                            Nah. NoSQL - refuse to touch it. Express - have no idea what it even is. Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it. Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript Marc

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.

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                              Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.

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                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.

                              Well now, there's an idea. I just don't see writing something like a web server in a scripted language though. Sure, for a test jig, great, but do people really use Node for production servers? Marc

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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it. Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript

                                :confused:

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                                Vark111 wrote:

                                :confused:

                                I am a very biased person when it comes to technology. :) Marc

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.

                                  Well now, there's an idea. I just don't see writing something like a web server in a scripted language though. Sure, for a test jig, great, but do people really use Node for production servers? Marc

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  Err, yes. I've got a fairly large scale app running on Node with the business logic all written in TypeScript. It's less processor intensive than running it on an IIS rig so that was a big incentive for me.

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                                    Err, yes. I've got a fairly large scale app running on Node with the business logic all written in TypeScript. It's less processor intensive than running it on an IIS rig so that was a big incentive for me.

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    Interesting! Gah, I try to avoid IIS. I ended up writing my own web server that could sit under IIS, but there's no need to. Marc

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                                      Interesting! Gah, I try to avoid IIS. I ended up writing my own web server that could sit under IIS, but there's no need to. Marc

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      I managed to reduce running costs to about 45% of the IIS costs, keeping a similar throughput. This is purely down to the fact we can run on a lower spec server running Linux.

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                                        I managed to reduce running costs to about 45% of the IIS costs, keeping a similar throughput. This is purely down to the fact we can run on a lower spec server running Linux.

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                        his is purely down to the fact we can run on a lower spec server running Linux.

                                        That is still the #1 reason I can see for *nix development -- the VM costs seem considerably lower than running a Windows VM. Marc

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Vark111 wrote:

                                          :confused:

                                          I am a very biased person when it comes to technology. :) Marc

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                                          Vark111
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                                          I was just confused about the fact that you seem open to working with Angular (a Javascript-based framework) at some point, but you reject node.js because it's Javascript. Is it javscript on the server that bothers you, and you're fine with it on the client?

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