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MEAN vs. LAMP for the future of programming

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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    It doesn't stop at MEAN though! I've come across ANNE (Angular, Node.js, Neo4J, Express), BEANS (Bootstrap, Express, Angular, Node.js, Socket.io) and EARN (Express, Angular, Redis, Node.js) too! Can't wait to see what they come up with next :D

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    Sander Rossel wrote:

    Can't wait to see what they come up with next

    BONER: Bootstrap, OrientDB, Node.js, Express, React.js

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      Sander Rossel wrote:

      Can't wait to see what they come up with next

      BONER: Bootstrap, OrientDB, Node.js, Express, React.js

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      :laugh: :thumbsup:

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      • M Marc Clifton

        I have no idea what LAMP is and (since you provided the definition of the acronym) I have no interest in touching MEAN. MEDIAN: Marc's Everlasting Denial In All Nut-techs. Marc

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        Rob Grainger
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        LAMP = Linux, Apache, MySQL + PHP. Personally, I'd avoid any stack invoking PHP like the plague.

        "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          It doesn't stop at MEAN though! I've come across ANNE (Angular, Node.js, Neo4J, Express), BEANS (Bootstrap, Express, Angular, Node.js, Socket.io) and EARN (Express, Angular, Redis, Node.js) too! Can't wait to see what they come up with next :D

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          Bootstrap, Angular, Cassandra, OrientJS, Node.js. Yumm!

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            Bootstrap, Angular, Cassandra, OrientJS, Node.js. Yumm!

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            Sander Rossel
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            Using the Orient driver with a Cassandra database? That doesn't even make any sense! :laugh:

            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Sander Rossel wrote:

              Oh, but you should![^]

              Nah. NoSQL - refuse to touch it. Express - have no idea what it even is. Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it. Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript Marc

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              Marc Clifton wrote:

              Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it. Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript

              :confused:

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Sander Rossel wrote:

                Oh, but you should![^]

                Nah. NoSQL - refuse to touch it. Express - have no idea what it even is. Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it. Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript Marc

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.

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                  Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.

                  Well now, there's an idea. I just don't see writing something like a web server in a scripted language though. Sure, for a test jig, great, but do people really use Node for production servers? Marc

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it. Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript

                    :confused:

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                    Vark111 wrote:

                    :confused:

                    I am a very biased person when it comes to technology. :) Marc

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.

                      Well now, there's an idea. I just don't see writing something like a web server in a scripted language though. Sure, for a test jig, great, but do people really use Node for production servers? Marc

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                      Err, yes. I've got a fairly large scale app running on Node with the business logic all written in TypeScript. It's less processor intensive than running it on an IIS rig so that was a big incentive for me.

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                        Err, yes. I've got a fairly large scale app running on Node with the business logic all written in TypeScript. It's less processor intensive than running it on an IIS rig so that was a big incentive for me.

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                        Interesting! Gah, I try to avoid IIS. I ended up writing my own web server that could sit under IIS, but there's no need to. Marc

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Interesting! Gah, I try to avoid IIS. I ended up writing my own web server that could sit under IIS, but there's no need to. Marc

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          I managed to reduce running costs to about 45% of the IIS costs, keeping a similar throughput. This is purely down to the fact we can run on a lower spec server running Linux.

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                            I managed to reduce running costs to about 45% of the IIS costs, keeping a similar throughput. This is purely down to the fact we can run on a lower spec server running Linux.

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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            his is purely down to the fact we can run on a lower spec server running Linux.

                            That is still the #1 reason I can see for *nix development -- the VM costs seem considerably lower than running a Windows VM. Marc

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Vark111 wrote:

                              :confused:

                              I am a very biased person when it comes to technology. :) Marc

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                              Vark111
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                              I was just confused about the fact that you seem open to working with Angular (a Javascript-based framework) at some point, but you reject node.js because it's Javascript. Is it javscript on the server that bothers you, and you're fine with it on the client?

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                                I was just confused about the fact that you seem open to working with Angular (a Javascript-based framework) at some point, but you reject node.js because it's Javascript. Is it javscript on the server that bothers you, and you're fine with it on the client?

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                Vark111 wrote:

                                Is it javscript on the server that bothers you, and you're fine with it on the client?

                                Yes. Javascript on the client is a necessary evil I can't do anything about except perhaps use Dart or TypeScript. Marc

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Vark111 wrote:

                                  Is it javscript on the server that bothers you, and you're fine with it on the client?

                                  Yes. Javascript on the client is a necessary evil I can't do anything about except perhaps use Dart or TypeScript. Marc

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                                  Vark111
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                                  Gotcha. That I can understand. I was squeamish about js on the server myself until I started playing around w/ node.

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