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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    Is it just me, or is anyone else starting to get sick and tired of the war? Sure, it's an important event which should be monitored and viewed by the public. But it has gone a little bit overboard it seems. The news media, day to day conversations, CP, pretty much everything is saturated with war, coalitions and Iraq. It feels like every morning is monday morning. Has the world ground to a full stop or what? I'm depressed. :| -- Tune your mind, reach inside, peel away Touch, Taste, Feel, Saturation

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    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Is it just me, or is anyone else starting to get sick and tired of the war? It sounds like you have been watching too much television. I don't have cable but have a tv, I barely watch it. I have been listening to NPR, which has great interviews with reporters in Iraq, and NPR seems to be on top of things. This is an important time in our world's history, take interest in it and soak it in:-D:-D. Later,
    JoeSox
    www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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      Seems like there's always a war going on. War against Iraq/Saddam War on "terra" (sic) War on Drugs War on Poverty - whatever happened to that? Not to mention those nazis ... errr ... principled people at the Business Software Alliance declaring war on innocent copyrite infingers (go take it to China)! I'm seriously thinking of declaring war on the rabbits that are ruining my back garden - maybe I can get a little of that $74 billion ... hmmm.

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      Andrew McCarter wrote: Not to mention those nazis ... errr ... principled people at the Business Software Alliance declaring war on innocent copyrite infingers (go take it to China)! LOL :laugh::laugh::laugh: Later,
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      www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

        Is it just me, or is anyone else starting to get sick and tired of the war? Sure, it's an important event which should be monitored and viewed by the public. But it has gone a little bit overboard it seems. The news media, day to day conversations, CP, pretty much everything is saturated with war, coalitions and Iraq. It feels like every morning is monday morning. Has the world ground to a full stop or what? I'm depressed. :| -- Tune your mind, reach inside, peel away Touch, Taste, Feel, Saturation

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        I haven't been paying attention to the war so much, but it has caused me to take a better look at what is going in the world. Big changes. I started reading Does America Need a Foreign Policy?[^] by Henry Kissinger. It's a stupid title, as it doesn't debate the question, but rather outlines historical and current global issues related to the US. Should be interesting. You're right though, the constant information overload is draining. Have a :beer:, put on some Maiden, and think about other stuff for a bit.:) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Is it just me, or is anyone else starting to get sick and tired of the war? It sounds like you have been watching too much television. I don't have cable but have a tv, I barely watch it. I have been listening to NPR, which has great interviews with reporters in Iraq, and NPR seems to be on top of things. This is an important time in our world's history, take interest in it and soak it in:-D:-D. Later,
          JoeSox
          www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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          NPR is about as objective as BBC. I just heard an interview with a BBC correspondent where it was stated that BBC was slanting the news to fit their own liberal agenda - which shocked me because I have always held the opinion that the BBC always went the extra mile , even absurdedly so , to be impartial. NPR lost all of mt respect when they were caught selling their donor list, of which I was one , to the Denmocratic Party for fund raising purposes.Locally their fundraising has dropped about 40 % over the last two years because of that little snafu. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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            NPR is about as objective as BBC. I just heard an interview with a BBC correspondent where it was stated that BBC was slanting the news to fit their own liberal agenda - which shocked me because I have always held the opinion that the BBC always went the extra mile , even absurdedly so , to be impartial. NPR lost all of mt respect when they were caught selling their donor list, of which I was one , to the Denmocratic Party for fund raising purposes.Locally their fundraising has dropped about 40 % over the last two years because of that little snafu. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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            Richard Stringer wrote: I just heard an interview with a BBC correspondent where it was stated that BBC was slanting the news to fit their own liberal agenda where did you here this?:~ Later,
            JoeSox
            www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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              NPR is about as objective as BBC. I just heard an interview with a BBC correspondent where it was stated that BBC was slanting the news to fit their own liberal agenda - which shocked me because I have always held the opinion that the BBC always went the extra mile , even absurdedly so , to be impartial. NPR lost all of mt respect when they were caught selling their donor list, of which I was one , to the Denmocratic Party for fund raising purposes.Locally their fundraising has dropped about 40 % over the last two years because of that little snafu. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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              The BBC has come under fire in alternating periods for both a liberal and then a conservative bias. Since Auntie Beeb gets it's money from the government, there have always been debates about the degree to which it was truely impartial. On the whole, the BBC does a great job of providing balanced journalism - but there is always the issue of the key appointees at the top of the food chain and to what extent they are merely the lap dogs of their political masters. Also, many Americans would actually consider some of the left-leaning conservatives in the UK to be "liberal" - given that the political cultures are really very different. Clinton would hardly be classified as a liberal in the UK. As such, it's awkward to say that the BBC has an overtly liberal bias.

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                The BBC has come under fire in alternating periods for both a liberal and then a conservative bias. Since Auntie Beeb gets it's money from the government, there have always been debates about the degree to which it was truely impartial. On the whole, the BBC does a great job of providing balanced journalism - but there is always the issue of the key appointees at the top of the food chain and to what extent they are merely the lap dogs of their political masters. Also, many Americans would actually consider some of the left-leaning conservatives in the UK to be "liberal" - given that the political cultures are really very different. Clinton would hardly be classified as a liberal in the UK. As such, it's awkward to say that the BBC has an overtly liberal bias.

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                Andrew McCarter wrote: Clinton would hardly be classified as a liberal in the UK. As such, it's awkward to say that the BBC has an overtly liberal bias. this makes sense to me.[^] "The history of liberty is brief. Most of history is littered with dictators, kings, wars, and societies torn apart by ethnic, religious and racial conflicts. But in the past few hundred years -- especially in the West -- libertarian ideas have gained popularity and have had a tremendous impact on political and social institutions." < http://www.self-gov.org/[^] this demostrates that politics is just not a left and right scale, something that the public schools here leave out:mad::mad::mad: > Later,
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                www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Is it just me, or is anyone else starting to get sick and tired of the war? It sounds like you have been watching too much television. I don't have cable but have a tv, I barely watch it. I have been listening to NPR, which has great interviews with reporters in Iraq, and NPR seems to be on top of things. This is an important time in our world's history, take interest in it and soak it in:-D:-D. Later,
                  JoeSox
                  www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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                  What is NPR :confused:?


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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    Is it just me, or is anyone else starting to get sick and tired of the war? Sure, it's an important event which should be monitored and viewed by the public. But it has gone a little bit overboard it seems. The news media, day to day conversations, CP, pretty much everything is saturated with war, coalitions and Iraq. It feels like every morning is monday morning. Has the world ground to a full stop or what? I'm depressed. :| -- Tune your mind, reach inside, peel away Touch, Taste, Feel, Saturation

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                    I stopped to be as news addict as before when this war began. Too much noise, too many mediatic operations, too many manipulations whatever the side. With this restriction, war time is more "bearable" (if I can say that, living in comfort and in a peaceful place :|), but it doesn't change I wish it will end the sooner possible.


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                      I haven't been paying attention to the war so much, but it has caused me to take a better look at what is going in the world. Big changes. I started reading Does America Need a Foreign Policy?[^] by Henry Kissinger. It's a stupid title, as it doesn't debate the question, but rather outlines historical and current global issues related to the US. Should be interesting. You're right though, the constant information overload is draining. Have a :beer:, put on some Maiden, and think about other stuff for a bit.:) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                      brianwelsch wrote: started reading Does America Need a Foreign Policy?[^] by Henry Kissinger Do you know Kissinger won't travel in Europe for a while? He could potentially be arrested there


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                        brianwelsch wrote: started reading Does America Need a Foreign Policy?[^] by Henry Kissinger Do you know Kissinger won't travel in Europe for a while? He could potentially be arrested there


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                        I wonder how much happens that regular citizens will never fully know about. Thanks for the link. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                          What is NPR :confused:?


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                          KaЯl wrote: What is NPR National Public Radio http://www.npr.org[^] Later,
                          JoeSox
                          www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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                            KaЯl wrote: What is NPR National Public Radio http://www.npr.org[^] Later,
                            JoeSox
                            www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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                            Thanks :) Is there also a National Public Channel on TV?


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                              Thanks :) Is there also a National Public Channel on TV?


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                              KaЯl wrote: Thanks Your Welcome:) KaЯl wrote: Is there also a National Public Channel on TV? http://www.pbs.org/[^] Later,
                              JoeSox
                              www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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                                KaЯl wrote: Thanks Your Welcome:) KaЯl wrote: Is there also a National Public Channel on TV? http://www.pbs.org/[^] Later,
                                JoeSox
                                www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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                                JoeSox wrote: Your Welcome In the US? I don't think so ;)


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                                  Richard Stringer wrote: I just heard an interview with a BBC correspondent where it was stated that BBC was slanting the news to fit their own liberal agenda where did you here this?:~ Later,
                                  JoeSox
                                  www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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                                  I saw it on the tube but try this http://www.greatestjeneration.com/archives/001133.php Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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                                    I saw it on the tube but try this http://www.greatestjeneration.com/archives/001133.php Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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                                    Richard Stringer wrote: _Date:13:18 28 Mar '03 I saw it on the tube but try this http://www.greatestjeneration.com/archives/001133.php_ interesting. Thanks. Later,
                                    JoeSox
                                    www.joeswammi.com "You may be against the war, but don't be against the soldiers there who are fighting it. I joined to serve my country but when I was there I was fighting to protect my friends," Sergeant Charles Horgan said in a hospital after Iraqi troops in civilian dress opened fire on them at the city of Nassiriya

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                                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                      Is it just me, or is anyone else starting to get sick and tired of the war? Sure, it's an important event which should be monitored and viewed by the public. But it has gone a little bit overboard it seems. The news media, day to day conversations, CP, pretty much everything is saturated with war, coalitions and Iraq. It feels like every morning is monday morning. Has the world ground to a full stop or what? I'm depressed. :| -- Tune your mind, reach inside, peel away Touch, Taste, Feel, Saturation

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                                      Me too :( Hyped up that it would be over in a week, and when it isn't sniping at the armed forces for not being able to do the impossible. The tigress is here :-D

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