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    ravikhoda
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    one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

    Ravi Khoda

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      one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

      Ravi Khoda

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      How far from his window is the pretty lady? :laugh:

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        one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

        Ravi Khoda

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        Pete OHanlon
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        The first question has to be, what does he want to use the telescope for?

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          How far from his window is the pretty lady? :laugh:

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          ravikhoda
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          :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: for that purpose one can use video calling feature on the smart phone. you won't need a telescope for that.

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            The first question has to be, what does he want to use the telescope for?

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            Truly speaking i have no idea about different purpose of a telescope. she is just 15 and have some chapter about stars and moon in her school and now she suddenly discover an astronomer in herself and want to view them on telescope. ;P

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              Truly speaking i have no idea about different purpose of a telescope. she is just 15 and have some chapter about stars and moon in her school and now she suddenly discover an astronomer in herself and want to view them on telescope. ;P

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              Okay, so she's interested in astronomy. That's eliminates the ones that are intended for things like bird watching. I'm a huge fan of the Celestron range of telescopes, and would recommend something like this[^] for someone who was looking to get into astronomy.

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                one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

                Ravi Khoda

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                Decide your budget then pop along to Celestron[^] ( I have an older model Astromaster and it is very good for planet spotting) Be careful though - when it comes to prices of telescopes, the sky really is the limit.

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                  Okay, so she's interested in astronomy. That's eliminates the ones that are intended for things like bird watching. I'm a huge fan of the Celestron range of telescopes, and would recommend something like this[^] for someone who was looking to get into astronomy.

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                  thanks will check this out

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                    one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

                    Ravi Khoda

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                    I'm assuming that your cousin wants an astronomical telescope. A beginner's telescope should be small and portable - it should be easy to move it in and out of the house, or pack it in the car for travel to an observation point. Another consideration is whether they live in a city or in the country; if they live in the country, they will be able to see more with a smaller telescope. A good beginner's telescope should be as simple as possible, but no simpler. Based on this advice, I would choose a Newtonian Reflector with one of the following mounts: 1. An equatorial mount - more complex, but simplifies compensation for the Earth's rotation 2. An alt-azimuth mount - simple and reliable 3. A Dobsonian mount - a type of alt-azimuth mount - relatively cheap, but used with larger telescopes. It is extremely important to get a mount of good quality. A telescope which vibrates will show poor quality images, and lead to frustration. A telescope of good size for a beginner will have an objective (main mirror) size of 4.5" - 6" (114mm - 150mm). It will come with a variety of eyepieces, and have a finderscope to aid in finding the object to be seen. I would avoid the laser finders, and get a 5x24 or 6x30 finderscope (5x magnification, aperture of 24mm). The telescope will come with a selection of eyepieces (usually 2 or 3). The magnification is calculated by dividing the focal length of the objective by the focal length of the eyepiece. Don't be impressed with claims of "high magnification". It is very rarely possible to use magnification of higher than 40x-50x for each inch (25mm) of objective mirror; most nights the seeing won't even be stable enough for this. For a telescope of the sizes discussed here, you typically want one eyepiece that gives a magnification of 30x (for viewing the moon and other extended objects), one that gives a magnification of 60x-80x, and one that gives a magnification of 120x-150x. As mentioned above, you won't often be able to use higher magnifications. Amateur astronomy can be a very rewarding hobby. I hope your cousin makes the most of his gift.

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                      one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

                      Ravi Khoda

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                      Kevin Marois
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                      Here's one[^]

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                        Okay, so she's interested in astronomy. That's eliminates the ones that are intended for things like bird watching. I'm a huge fan of the Celestron range of telescopes, and would recommend something like this[^] for someone who was looking to get into astronomy.

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                        I agree that the Celestron telescopes are of good quality. A 76mm (3") objective (main mirror) will show just enough to get you frustrated. It is very good for looking at the moon, but when it comes to looking at the planets - you will barely be able to see Saturn's rings if the seeing is good. If you live in a city, the range of viewable object will shrink even further. I would recommend a slightly larger telescope - 114mm (4.5"), which is still small enough to be portable, but will allow for higher magnification.

                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                          one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

                          Ravi Khoda

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                          Corporal Agarn
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                          ravikhoda wrote:

                          terrestrial and astronomical

                          Terrestrial is what you get a teenage boy :-D Astronomical is what you get a girl interested in the stars I'll get my hat.

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                            Here's one[^]

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                            Daniel Pfeffer
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                            I don't know; will it fit under her bed? :)

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                              I don't know; will it fit under her bed? :)

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                              That depends on the size of the bed

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                                ravikhoda wrote:

                                terrestrial and astronomical

                                Terrestrial is what you get a teenage boy :-D Astronomical is what you get a girl interested in the stars I'll get my hat.

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                                Corporal Agarn wrote:

                                Terrestrial is what you get a teenage boy :-D

                                Doesn't that depend on whether he is interested in heavenly bodies or Heavenly bodies? :) (running and ducking)

                                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                  I agree that the Celestron telescopes are of good quality. A 76mm (3") objective (main mirror) will show just enough to get you frustrated. It is very good for looking at the moon, but when it comes to looking at the planets - you will barely be able to see Saturn's rings if the seeing is good. If you live in a city, the range of viewable object will shrink even further. I would recommend a slightly larger telescope - 114mm (4.5"), which is still small enough to be portable, but will allow for higher magnification.

                                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  Agreed - but I recommended this as a good starter to get the astronomy bug. My rig is much more expensive, and Hannah (my youngest), got the bug off this model and has moved up from there when it was obvious that she was serious about it. Ultimately, it's a cost to enthusiasm balance.

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                                    one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

                                    Ravi Khoda

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                                    Vivi Chellappa
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                                    There is an expensive Celestron model that takes a database of stars' locations and lets one train the telescope on any specific star one chooses to view, correcting for one's location on earth. Locating a celestial object should be easy as pie with that device.

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                                      There is an expensive Celestron model that takes a database of stars' locations and lets one train the telescope on any specific star one chooses to view, correcting for one's location on earth. Locating a celestial object should be easy as pie with that device.

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                                      Unless you have money to waste, this is not a model that I would recommend for a beginner.

                                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                        one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

                                        Ravi Khoda

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                                        Chris Quinn
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                                        Aperture width is much more important than magnification - the more light it collects, the better.

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                                          How far from his window is the pretty lady? :laugh:

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                                          > i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. How can you miss it? ;P

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