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  • P Pete OHanlon

    Okay, so she's interested in astronomy. That's eliminates the ones that are intended for things like bird watching. I'm a huge fan of the Celestron range of telescopes, and would recommend something like this[^] for someone who was looking to get into astronomy.

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    thanks will check this out

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      one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

      Ravi Khoda

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      I'm assuming that your cousin wants an astronomical telescope. A beginner's telescope should be small and portable - it should be easy to move it in and out of the house, or pack it in the car for travel to an observation point. Another consideration is whether they live in a city or in the country; if they live in the country, they will be able to see more with a smaller telescope. A good beginner's telescope should be as simple as possible, but no simpler. Based on this advice, I would choose a Newtonian Reflector with one of the following mounts: 1. An equatorial mount - more complex, but simplifies compensation for the Earth's rotation 2. An alt-azimuth mount - simple and reliable 3. A Dobsonian mount - a type of alt-azimuth mount - relatively cheap, but used with larger telescopes. It is extremely important to get a mount of good quality. A telescope which vibrates will show poor quality images, and lead to frustration. A telescope of good size for a beginner will have an objective (main mirror) size of 4.5" - 6" (114mm - 150mm). It will come with a variety of eyepieces, and have a finderscope to aid in finding the object to be seen. I would avoid the laser finders, and get a 5x24 or 6x30 finderscope (5x magnification, aperture of 24mm). The telescope will come with a selection of eyepieces (usually 2 or 3). The magnification is calculated by dividing the focal length of the objective by the focal length of the eyepiece. Don't be impressed with claims of "high magnification". It is very rarely possible to use magnification of higher than 40x-50x for each inch (25mm) of objective mirror; most nights the seeing won't even be stable enough for this. For a telescope of the sizes discussed here, you typically want one eyepiece that gives a magnification of 30x (for viewing the moon and other extended objects), one that gives a magnification of 60x-80x, and one that gives a magnification of 120x-150x. As mentioned above, you won't often be able to use higher magnifications. Amateur astronomy can be a very rewarding hobby. I hope your cousin makes the most of his gift.

      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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      • R ravikhoda

        one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

        Ravi Khoda

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        Kevin Marois
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        Here's one[^]

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          Okay, so she's interested in astronomy. That's eliminates the ones that are intended for things like bird watching. I'm a huge fan of the Celestron range of telescopes, and would recommend something like this[^] for someone who was looking to get into astronomy.

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          Daniel Pfeffer
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          I agree that the Celestron telescopes are of good quality. A 76mm (3") objective (main mirror) will show just enough to get you frustrated. It is very good for looking at the moon, but when it comes to looking at the planets - you will barely be able to see Saturn's rings if the seeing is good. If you live in a city, the range of viewable object will shrink even further. I would recommend a slightly larger telescope - 114mm (4.5"), which is still small enough to be portable, but will allow for higher magnification.

          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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          • R ravikhoda

            one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

            Ravi Khoda

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            Corporal Agarn
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            ravikhoda wrote:

            terrestrial and astronomical

            Terrestrial is what you get a teenage boy :-D Astronomical is what you get a girl interested in the stars I'll get my hat.

            Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Here's one[^]

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              Daniel Pfeffer
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              I don't know; will it fit under her bed? :)

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              • D Daniel Pfeffer

                I don't know; will it fit under her bed? :)

                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                That depends on the size of the bed

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                • C Corporal Agarn

                  ravikhoda wrote:

                  terrestrial and astronomical

                  Terrestrial is what you get a teenage boy :-D Astronomical is what you get a girl interested in the stars I'll get my hat.

                  Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                  Corporal Agarn wrote:

                  Terrestrial is what you get a teenage boy :-D

                  Doesn't that depend on whether he is interested in heavenly bodies or Heavenly bodies? :) (running and ducking)

                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                  • D Daniel Pfeffer

                    I agree that the Celestron telescopes are of good quality. A 76mm (3") objective (main mirror) will show just enough to get you frustrated. It is very good for looking at the moon, but when it comes to looking at the planets - you will barely be able to see Saturn's rings if the seeing is good. If you live in a city, the range of viewable object will shrink even further. I would recommend a slightly larger telescope - 114mm (4.5"), which is still small enough to be portable, but will allow for higher magnification.

                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Agreed - but I recommended this as a good starter to get the astronomy bug. My rig is much more expensive, and Hannah (my youngest), got the bug off this model and has moved up from there when it was obvious that she was serious about it. Ultimately, it's a cost to enthusiasm balance.

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                    • R ravikhoda

                      one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

                      Ravi Khoda

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                      There is an expensive Celestron model that takes a database of stars' locations and lets one train the telescope on any specific star one chooses to view, correcting for one's location on earth. Locating a celestial object should be easy as pie with that device.

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                      • V Vivi Chellappa

                        There is an expensive Celestron model that takes a database of stars' locations and lets one train the telescope on any specific star one chooses to view, correcting for one's location on earth. Locating a celestial object should be easy as pie with that device.

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                        Unless you have money to waste, this is not a model that I would recommend for a beginner.

                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                        • R ravikhoda

                          one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

                          Ravi Khoda

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                          Chris Quinn
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                          Aperture width is much more important than magnification - the more light it collects, the better.

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                            How far from his window is the pretty lady? :laugh:

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                            > i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. How can you miss it? ;P

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                              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: for that purpose one can use video calling feature on the smart phone. you won't need a telescope for that.

                              Ravi Khoda

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                              Wastedtalent
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                              He means the other pretty lady. The one that he can't call due to a court order.

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                                > i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. How can you miss it? ;P

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                                You don't think his cousin is going to be pretty? :laugh:

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                                  You don't think his cousin is going to be pretty? :laugh:

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                                  :sigh: Honestly? did you mean it?

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                                  • V Vivi Chellappa

                                    There is an expensive Celestron model that takes a database of stars' locations and lets one train the telescope on any specific star one chooses to view, correcting for one's location on earth. Locating a celestial object should be easy as pie with that device.

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                                    Used one of them about a decade ago. It was incredible. At the time, GPS and electronic compasses were simply not available for the inexpensive mass-market, so we had to tell it the lat/long and also orient its base. From there, it knew where it was and what it was looking at. It even had a feature that would take you on a tour of sorts, visiting interesting bodies along the way. It was rather small and nothing like the 18" diam one we've looked at the moon with, but the tour left us speechless. That was by far one of the neatest things I've played with. Using a manual one to look at the rings of Saturn was another exciting moment. Too bad I didn't take a 35mm photo - that'd be neat, having a negative that was chemically changed by the light that had actually bounced of the surface of the ringed planet.

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                                      :sigh: Honestly? did you mean it?

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                                      Of course not! :laugh: I missed the "her" is all.

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                                      • R ravikhoda

                                        one of my cousin wants a telescope for a birth day present , but i don't know which model should be good for beginner (personally i don't have much interest in it). i am planning to buy a medium range telescope for her. issue is i don't know what configuration is good. i searched on Google which gives it's parameters like focal length , focal ratio, even there are two types terrestrial and astronomical and many more configuration. If someone has used/know about that can you please suggest me?

                                        Ravi Khoda

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                                        Pride of ownership through making it yourself: http://www.scopemaking.net/dobson/dobson.htm[^] (Not necessarily that big.)

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                                          Pride of ownership through making it yourself: http://www.scopemaking.net/dobson/dobson.htm[^] (Not necessarily that big.)

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                                          Thanks to all of you for providing feedback. I will check this out and will let you know which one i bought.

                                          Ravi Khoda

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