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  • A amagitech

    I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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    ravikhoda
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    remember the fire cell from die hard 4.0 Not the whole system is automated, at some point you need a human action to control the behavior of any application. So there will be something for programmer to have control of. Again, like in any cms now a days, we have admin panel where we feed our input to show how our website or program will look in the browser , same way we will have AI admin panel from where we need to tell the AI what i want to build my application. one can learn that thing and can secure a job. what if someone can break the logic of AI (ultimately it is a program written somewhere with some more real time decision power) like virus do now in our computer or AI become so smart that it do not obey his master like Hollywood movies, in this case you need some Root user to control this. become a master of this and you will have a job with lot of money. apart from that , there is a lot of time reaming for that thing to happen, as you can see now we have lot of open source and other cms which gives so many options to set up a website or application within few hours with well documentation but still common people/Non IT companies prefer to higher a professional person to do that job. So, don't worry enjoy your work :)

    Ravi Khoda

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    • A amagitech

      I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      If you believe that, then you don't understand AI.

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        Member 11375116 wrote:

        I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

        On a brighter note, we'll probably all be a lot more mentally and physically fit :laugh:

        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        Brent Jenkins wrote:

        mentally and physically fit

        Fit to do what?

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          If you believe that, then you don't understand AI.

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          amagitech
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          what should I know? There is Stephen Hawking's idea.

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          • A amagitech

            I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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            Mladen Jankovic
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            Second industrial revolution? More like another AI winter[^]. If you want something to reach industrial scale and wide public adoption in next 10 years, you must have prototype that demonstrates capabilities NOW. I'm not aware of any technology (hardware/software/algorithms) that even begins to challenge human intelligence right now. You could argue that Google car is one. That's up to a debate, well unless it's raining :) Current AI hype started a year ago by Elon Musk (and Stephen Hawking) and it will end in another AI winter. Some progress will come out of it probably, but still nothing compared to these pompous predictions. AI has been gradually improving over past decades and this hype will be just another step.

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            • A amagitech

              I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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              Lost User
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              But can computers scrum?

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              • A amagitech

                I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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                Simon Lee Shugar
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                Need Input!!!! Johnny Five... is Alive! J5 reprogrammed himself..... yet remained the same.

                Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  Brent Jenkins wrote:

                  mentally and physically fit

                  Fit to do what?

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                  Fit to do what?

                  Flip burgers, make bacon sandwiches - those kinds of things :laugh:

                  How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                    Fit to do what?

                    Flip burgers, make bacon sandwiches - those kinds of things :laugh:

                    How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                    Come on! Even a dumb machine (no AI) can do it better and faster than any software developer... :laugh:

                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                    • A amagitech

                      I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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                      peterchen
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                      Won't that be cool? I'd finally have the time for all the fun and useless projects I can think of!

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                      • A amagitech

                        I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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                        Onur Cil
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                        ridiculous..

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                        • A amagitech

                          I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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                          Lost User
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                          Member 11375116 wrote:

                          I think computers can write programs in the future.

                          My teacher said the same, some fifteen years ago. I simply laughed and left.

                          Member 11375116 wrote:

                          I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

                          Not any time soon.

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                            Won't that be cool? I'd finally have the time for all the fun and useless projects I can think of!

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                            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                            Like a AI powered brush to scratch my back in the bath...

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                            "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                            • A amagitech

                              I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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                              GuyThiebaut
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                              Most people I come across have difficulty: Knowing what they want. Knowing what they need. Being able to express what they want. Being able to express what they need. So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...

                              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                              ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                That's not the near future. Let it happen, perhaps it will finally solve the problem that 99% of all software is utter crap.

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                                jeron1
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                                harold aptroot wrote:

                                the problem that 99% of all software is utter crap.

                                Yeah, it will make it an even 100%.

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                                  We programed the machines to take away people's jobs, now the machines will program themselves and take away our jobs. When everything is automated, production of all the world's needs is as efficient as can be, then we can all live out lives of unfettered luxury, free from the daily toil of the working life. The planet and the machines will provide, all we need do is consume. Just need to get rid of 6 or 7 billion people first, but that's another story.

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                                  Sounds like the movie, Logan's Run.

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                                    Most people I come across have difficulty: Knowing what they want. Knowing what they need. Being able to express what they want. Being able to express what they need. So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...

                                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                    chriselst
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                                    GuyThiebaut wrote:

                                    So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...

                                    Yep, I'm sure we've all seen the carnage that follows if you give someone the system they actually ask for.

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      Come on! Even a dumb machine (no AI) can do it better and faster than any software developer... :laugh:

                                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Now I'm worried, I thought we'd all be okay! :laugh:

                                      How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                      • A amagitech

                                        I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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                                        jgakenhe
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                                        I think this generation of developers will be fine, but in the future, only the strong will survive. Wage may even come down some as competition and demand drive the price at market. We're already seeing DBAs and System Administrators beginning to get pushed out, next maybe it will be web developers. There's been new technologies and mobile development for web developers, but nothing is any better than it was 8 years ago. Instead of writing JavaScript or using an UpdatePanel, we now have JavaScript libraries that pretty much do the same thing, but they are no better than there predecessor. This brings me to the conclusion that software will get better, similar to automobiles, and you'll need less people to build and maintain them, since their product cycle will be longer than in the past.

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                                        • A amagitech

                                          I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          Store clerks and most menial jobs will get the ax sooner than us.

                                          Jeremy Falcon

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