I am afraid about programmers future
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Member 11375116 wrote:
I think computers can write programs in the future.
My teacher said the same, some fifteen years ago. I simply laughed and left.
Member 11375116 wrote:
I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Not any time soon.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
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Won't that be cool? I'd finally have the time for all the fun and useless projects I can think of!
Like a AI powered brush to scratch my back in the bath...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Most people I come across have difficulty: Knowing what they want. Knowing what they need. Being able to express what they want. Being able to express what they need. So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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That's not the near future. Let it happen, perhaps it will finally solve the problem that 99% of all software is utter crap.
harold aptroot wrote:
the problem that 99% of all software is utter crap.
Yeah, it will make it an even 100%.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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We programed the machines to take away people's jobs, now the machines will program themselves and take away our jobs. When everything is automated, production of all the world's needs is as efficient as can be, then we can all live out lives of unfettered luxury, free from the daily toil of the working life. The planet and the machines will provide, all we need do is consume. Just need to get rid of 6 or 7 billion people first, but that's another story.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Most people I come across have difficulty: Knowing what they want. Knowing what they need. Being able to express what they want. Being able to express what they need. So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
GuyThiebaut wrote:
So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...
Yep, I'm sure we've all seen the carnage that follows if you give someone the system they actually ask for.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Come on! Even a dumb machine (no AI) can do it better and faster than any software developer... :laugh:
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
I think this generation of developers will be fine, but in the future, only the strong will survive. Wage may even come down some as competition and demand drive the price at market. We're already seeing DBAs and System Administrators beginning to get pushed out, next maybe it will be web developers. There's been new technologies and mobile development for web developers, but nothing is any better than it was 8 years ago. Instead of writing JavaScript or using an UpdatePanel, we now have JavaScript libraries that pretty much do the same thing, but they are no better than there predecessor. This brings me to the conclusion that software will get better, similar to automobiles, and you'll need less people to build and maintain them, since their product cycle will be longer than in the past.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Store clerks and most menial jobs will get the ax sooner than us.
Jeremy Falcon
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Now I'm worried, I thought we'd all be okay! :laugh:
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
Maybe as meat for those hamburgers...(the Matrix has you!)
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...
Yep, I'm sure we've all seen the carnage that follows if you give someone the system they actually ask for.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
The first lecture on my computer science course, back in 1988, started with the lecturer showing us the now often used picture of what the users asked for etc., as a warning of what we were letting ourselves in for.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
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Maybe as meat for those hamburgers...(the Matrix has you!)
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Like a AI powered brush to scratch my back in the bath...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
Like a AI powered brush to scratch my back in the bath...
Easier to get a Woman (or a Man, depending on your very own preferences) to get that Job done.
"A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult
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Store clerks and most menial jobs will get the ax sooner than us.
Jeremy Falcon
I am probably one of those contributing towards it as I go for the scan as you shop option nowadays.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
I wrote an entry answering this question a while back: Why Computers Haven't Replaced Programmers[^] Two primary thoughts to take away from this question: "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein In order for a computer to write computer programs, it will need to be at least as intelligent as the program that it is going to encode. Finally, the AI will need someone to give it instructions for what kind of program should be written. For this, I look at the law and how it is worded, interpreted, misinterpreted, abused and so on. Humans cannot agree on the same definitions and interpretations. We have the same issues with developing computer programs. Even then, to be able to develop a system that can write all of the programs that will ever be needed is also a monumental task. There is a long way to go before the role of a programmer is eliminated entirely.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
I am afraid that when the artificial intelligences we created gain a depth of consciousness equal to ours that the artificial intelligences who created us will destroy us for daring to imitate them. cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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I think computers can write programs in the future. And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers. we will say that "second industrial revolution". I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
After an AI writes its first program and then has to deal with its irrational users and stakeholders, I suspect it will be smart enough to quit programming and go flip burgers for a living, thus leaving the programming as usual to us dumb-asses.
-NP Never underestimate the creativity of the end-user.
