Suggest me a different job!
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We've got a video recording from our client. It's about their current application(windows application) usage. In this video the presenter navigated us to different screens showing how they do their stuff. For example generating bill and its summary. Our task is to create a new web application that will be replacing this old windows application. Now, Mr. PM wants us to suggest estimated time. Task 1: Go through the video and take screen shots. Task 2: Create an excel sheet and write estimated time for UI and Back-End for each screen. What's interesting is we don't have an iota of idea what happens in the background when the user clicks, say button 'Generate Summary'. We are totally unaware of the business logic. :wtf: Another interesting fact is that there are plenty of buttons on each screen and the client only used one or two in many cases. So, we know that 'Generate Summary' takes us to another screen but we don't know what the other buttons does? :doh: Here comes another bomb from Mr. PM: "Please include the estimates for those other buttons on the screen as well." :(( What about selling burgers?
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We've got a video recording from our client. It's about their current application(windows application) usage. In this video the presenter navigated us to different screens showing how they do their stuff. For example generating bill and its summary. Our task is to create a new web application that will be replacing this old windows application. Now, Mr. PM wants us to suggest estimated time. Task 1: Go through the video and take screen shots. Task 2: Create an excel sheet and write estimated time for UI and Back-End for each screen. What's interesting is we don't have an iota of idea what happens in the background when the user clicks, say button 'Generate Summary'. We are totally unaware of the business logic. :wtf: Another interesting fact is that there are plenty of buttons on each screen and the client only used one or two in many cases. So, we know that 'Generate Summary' takes us to another screen but we don't know what the other buttons does? :doh: Here comes another bomb from Mr. PM: "Please include the estimates for those other buttons on the screen as well." :(( What about selling burgers?
In the Summary they add up their input and write it to a database. Expect that after the buttons comes some selection. I would make a "fat estimation" and discuss. Selling burgers isnt an alternative. What about buying a farm "somewhere in the nowhere" :rolleyes:
Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany
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We've got a video recording from our client. It's about their current application(windows application) usage. In this video the presenter navigated us to different screens showing how they do their stuff. For example generating bill and its summary. Our task is to create a new web application that will be replacing this old windows application. Now, Mr. PM wants us to suggest estimated time. Task 1: Go through the video and take screen shots. Task 2: Create an excel sheet and write estimated time for UI and Back-End for each screen. What's interesting is we don't have an iota of idea what happens in the background when the user clicks, say button 'Generate Summary'. We are totally unaware of the business logic. :wtf: Another interesting fact is that there are plenty of buttons on each screen and the client only used one or two in many cases. So, we know that 'Generate Summary' takes us to another screen but we don't know what the other buttons does? :doh: Here comes another bomb from Mr. PM: "Please include the estimates for those other buttons on the screen as well." :(( What about selling burgers?
Its simple to figure out the estimate for this project, its the duration of the video recording!
"Coming soon"
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We've got a video recording from our client. It's about their current application(windows application) usage. In this video the presenter navigated us to different screens showing how they do their stuff. For example generating bill and its summary. Our task is to create a new web application that will be replacing this old windows application. Now, Mr. PM wants us to suggest estimated time. Task 1: Go through the video and take screen shots. Task 2: Create an excel sheet and write estimated time for UI and Back-End for each screen. What's interesting is we don't have an iota of idea what happens in the background when the user clicks, say button 'Generate Summary'. We are totally unaware of the business logic. :wtf: Another interesting fact is that there are plenty of buttons on each screen and the client only used one or two in many cases. So, we know that 'Generate Summary' takes us to another screen but we don't know what the other buttons does? :doh: Here comes another bomb from Mr. PM: "Please include the estimates for those other buttons on the screen as well." :(( What about selling burgers?
Zafar Sultan wrote:
What about selling burgers?
Is that the function for the other buttons?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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We've got a video recording from our client. It's about their current application(windows application) usage. In this video the presenter navigated us to different screens showing how they do their stuff. For example generating bill and its summary. Our task is to create a new web application that will be replacing this old windows application. Now, Mr. PM wants us to suggest estimated time. Task 1: Go through the video and take screen shots. Task 2: Create an excel sheet and write estimated time for UI and Back-End for each screen. What's interesting is we don't have an iota of idea what happens in the background when the user clicks, say button 'Generate Summary'. We are totally unaware of the business logic. :wtf: Another interesting fact is that there are plenty of buttons on each screen and the client only used one or two in many cases. So, we know that 'Generate Summary' takes us to another screen but we don't know what the other buttons does? :doh: Here comes another bomb from Mr. PM: "Please include the estimates for those other buttons on the screen as well." :(( What about selling burgers?
Zafar Sultan wrote:
What about selling burgers?
Can I have two please, one with cheese and bacon, and would there be any chance of dropping an egg on top?
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Garbage collection could be interesting - and it has a plus side: You wouldn't need to be 100% retrained... :laugh:
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time:thumbsup:
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We've got a video recording from our client. It's about their current application(windows application) usage. In this video the presenter navigated us to different screens showing how they do their stuff. For example generating bill and its summary. Our task is to create a new web application that will be replacing this old windows application. Now, Mr. PM wants us to suggest estimated time. Task 1: Go through the video and take screen shots. Task 2: Create an excel sheet and write estimated time for UI and Back-End for each screen. What's interesting is we don't have an iota of idea what happens in the background when the user clicks, say button 'Generate Summary'. We are totally unaware of the business logic. :wtf: Another interesting fact is that there are plenty of buttons on each screen and the client only used one or two in many cases. So, we know that 'Generate Summary' takes us to another screen but we don't know what the other buttons does? :doh: Here comes another bomb from Mr. PM: "Please include the estimates for those other buttons on the screen as well." :(( What about selling burgers?
Reject it until you get a proper specification sheet :thumbsup:
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First estimate how much Time do you need to prepare this Time Estimation! Or is it already estimated by Mr. PM :|
Yup. He has already come up with the estimate to estimate. Befor EOD!
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:laugh: Good one.
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In the Summary they add up their input and write it to a database. Expect that after the buttons comes some selection. I would make a "fat estimation" and discuss. Selling burgers isnt an alternative. What about buying a farm "somewhere in the nowhere" :rolleyes:
Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany
Yeah. "Fat Estimation" can be an option for what we see. What about estimating something that we have not even seen? BTW, do you know any place at "nowhere"?
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Zafar Sultan wrote:
What about selling burgers?
Can I have two please, one with cheese and bacon, and would there be any chance of dropping an egg on top?
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
Sure sir. Let me estimate the time to prepare that one for you. :laugh:
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Reject it until you get a proper specification sheet :thumbsup:
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}Me: I can't do that until I get a proper specification sheet. Mr. PM: Then prepare a proper specification sheet first! (That's my prediction. And it's quite accurate based on the past events ;P )
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Its simple to figure out the estimate for this project, its the duration of the video recording!
"Coming soon"
Okay. Let's start working on it :-\
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Zafar Sultan wrote:
What about selling burgers?
Is that the function for the other buttons?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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We've got a video recording from our client. It's about their current application(windows application) usage. In this video the presenter navigated us to different screens showing how they do their stuff. For example generating bill and its summary. Our task is to create a new web application that will be replacing this old windows application. Now, Mr. PM wants us to suggest estimated time. Task 1: Go through the video and take screen shots. Task 2: Create an excel sheet and write estimated time for UI and Back-End for each screen. What's interesting is we don't have an iota of idea what happens in the background when the user clicks, say button 'Generate Summary'. We are totally unaware of the business logic. :wtf: Another interesting fact is that there are plenty of buttons on each screen and the client only used one or two in many cases. So, we know that 'Generate Summary' takes us to another screen but we don't know what the other buttons does? :doh: Here comes another bomb from Mr. PM: "Please include the estimates for those other buttons on the screen as well." :(( What about selling burgers?
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Zafar Sultan wrote:
What about selling burgers?
Is that the function for the other buttons?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
I hope not :laugh:
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We've got a video recording from our client. It's about their current application(windows application) usage. In this video the presenter navigated us to different screens showing how they do their stuff. For example generating bill and its summary. Our task is to create a new web application that will be replacing this old windows application. Now, Mr. PM wants us to suggest estimated time. Task 1: Go through the video and take screen shots. Task 2: Create an excel sheet and write estimated time for UI and Back-End for each screen. What's interesting is we don't have an iota of idea what happens in the background when the user clicks, say button 'Generate Summary'. We are totally unaware of the business logic. :wtf: Another interesting fact is that there are plenty of buttons on each screen and the client only used one or two in many cases. So, we know that 'Generate Summary' takes us to another screen but we don't know what the other buttons does? :doh: Here comes another bomb from Mr. PM: "Please include the estimates for those other buttons on the screen as well." :(( What about selling burgers?
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You need to try to make him understand that this is not possible. Any estimation of design and development will be dependent on requirements. Another approach could be 2 days per control on screen (including labels and anything you see).
I would like to go with the second approach. Two days for each label(different numbers for other controls) :laugh: :thumbsup:
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ask your client to provide the source code of windows application and you can check yourself what those button do when clicked.
Ravi Khoda
Yes Ravi. You are spot on. If I were him, I would have asked the client straight away for the source code. At least it could have been of so much help to come up with idea how complex the application is. But, there is always a but...
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Yes Ravi. You are spot on. If I were him, I would have asked the client straight away for the source code. At least it could have been of so much help to come up with idea how complex the application is. But, there is always a but...
Even your PM can do that.. this is the whole idea of re-useability, You are just converting the UI of the application by making a web application so , business logic would be same for both so there is no meaning to build every thing from start. Use existing stored procedures , some class may also be reusable from the window application if the code was done properly. and if your PM can not understand this common thing...All the best for the project.
Ravi Khoda
