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  • J Johnny J

    How long before Windows Update FORCES a Win10 update, do you think? My money is on "Less than 3 months"... :~

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    dandy72
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    You have a year to upgrade to 10 for free. If you still want it after that, then you'll have to pay for it. If MS was to force everybody to upgrade to it in "less than 3 months" from now, then there goes that revenue stream. Still wanna have that bet?

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    • L Lost User

      Richard Deeming wrote:

      Probably the re-introduction of the Start Menu.

      Yay! This is the kind of improvement that users get excited about.. putting back features that they already had! :laugh: But when, oh when, can I get a resizable environment variables window? I've been waiting for that feature since 1995.

      How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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      JohnLBevan
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      That's included in Windows 10! It looks a little different too; black background, off-white text, a flashing cursor; it's a real retro feel. To see the variables you have to type SET, to set them, also SET. NB: you can only expand it vertically though; horizontal expansion is still way beyond today's technology.

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      • J Johnny J

        How long before Windows Update FORCES a Win10 update, do you think? My money is on "Less than 3 months"... :~

        Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
        Anonymous
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        The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
        Winston Churchill, 1944
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        I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
        Me, all the time

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        JohnLBevan
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        Presumably it'll be over a year; i.e. around the time they start charging for it ;).

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        • J JohnLBevan

          That's included in Windows 10! It looks a little different too; black background, off-white text, a flashing cursor; it's a real retro feel. To see the variables you have to type SET, to set them, also SET. NB: you can only expand it vertically though; horizontal expansion is still way beyond today's technology.

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          Lost User
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          JohnLBevan wrote:

          That's included in Windows 10!

          Yay! :thumbsup:

          JohnLBevan wrote:

          NB: you can only expand it vertically though; horizontal expansion is still way beyond today's technology.

          Boo! :thumbsdown:

          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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          • F Fredrik Bornander

            I am guessing a lot of people won't mind being moved away from Windows 8. I think it'd more interesting to see what will annoy people with Windows 10, considering how angry people got over the start menu disappearing in Windows 8.

            Try Grapple for Android, it has a naked pixel guy in it! Also, loads of blood and some snakes.

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            Member 10707677
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            I'm hoping they solved the issue of mice conflicting with tablet devices. 17 months later, I'm waiting for left-click to work. For the time being, it's point-mouse, left-click-tablet.

            The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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              You have a year to upgrade to 10 for free. If you still want it after that, then you'll have to pay for it. If MS was to force everybody to upgrade to it in "less than 3 months" from now, then there goes that revenue stream. Still wanna have that bet?

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              Member 10707677
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              I know it's supposed to be a free upgrade, that's why we here in NZ have to pay $98 to upgrade our systems. Nothing is ever free.

              The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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              • F Fredrik Bornander

                I am guessing a lot of people won't mind being moved away from Windows 8. I think it'd more interesting to see what will annoy people with Windows 10, considering how angry people got over the start menu disappearing in Windows 8.

                Try Grapple for Android, it has a naked pixel guy in it! Also, loads of blood and some snakes.

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                Ygnaiih
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                Windows 8 was so bad that Windows 10 would have to suck all the air off the planet to be worse. This is being written on a Win 7 machine and after testing 10, 7 looks odd, not bad just odd. Bottom line 8 is so bad after testing 10 and then down loading it last night 10 looks good.

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                  I'm hoping they solved the issue of mice conflicting with tablet devices. 17 months later, I'm waiting for left-click to work. For the time being, it's point-mouse, left-click-tablet.

                  The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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                  Fredrik Bornander
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                  Member 10707677 wrote:

                  17 months later, I'm waiting for left-click to work.

                  That is hilarious. Not for you, obviously, but to wait 17 months for the mouse to work is hilarious.

                  Try Grapple for Android, it has a naked pixel guy in it! Also, loads of blood and some snakes.

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                  • Y Ygnaiih

                    Windows 8 was so bad that Windows 10 would have to suck all the air off the planet to be worse. This is being written on a Win 7 machine and after testing 10, 7 looks odd, not bad just odd. Bottom line 8 is so bad after testing 10 and then down loading it last night 10 looks good.

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                    Fredrik Bornander
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                    Earl Owens wrote:

                    Windows 8 was so bad that Windows 10 would have to suck all the air off the planet to be worse.

                    This.

                    Try Grapple for Android, it has a naked pixel guy in it! Also, loads of blood and some snakes.

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                    • L Lost User

                      JohnLBevan wrote:

                      That's included in Windows 10!

                      Yay! :thumbsup:

                      JohnLBevan wrote:

                      NB: you can only expand it vertically though; horizontal expansion is still way beyond today's technology.

                      Boo! :thumbsdown:

                      How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                      mintxelas
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                      You just have to press windows + r, then type cmd in the little box that appears there and BOOM! There you have the black screen... xD

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                      • M mintxelas

                        You just have to press windows + r, then type cmd in the little box that appears there and BOOM! There you have the black screen... xD

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                        Lost User
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                        Is it a different shade of black? :laugh:

                        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                        • Y Ygnaiih

                          Windows 8 was so bad that Windows 10 would have to suck all the air off the planet to be worse. This is being written on a Win 7 machine and after testing 10, 7 looks odd, not bad just odd. Bottom line 8 is so bad after testing 10 and then down loading it last night 10 looks good.

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                          Lost User
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                          Earl Owens wrote:

                          Windows 8 was so bad that Windows 10 would have to suck all the air off the planet to be worse

                          Hey, it's Microsoft we're talking about here. Make sure you've got an oxygen tank nearby! :laugh:

                          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                            Richard Deeming wrote:

                            Probably the re-introduction of the Start Menu.

                            Yay! This is the kind of improvement that users get excited about.. putting back features that they already had! :laugh: But when, oh when, can I get a resizable environment variables window? I've been waiting for that feature since 1995.

                            How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                            sasadler
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                            Search for resize enable. It's somewhat of a hack but I know it works for the environment variables. I've been using it since the Win XP days.

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                              Search for resize enable. It's somewhat of a hack but I know it works for the environment variables. I've been using it since the Win XP days.

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                              Lost User
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                              It's a shame we have to resort to third party software to do this kind of thing. Ah well, I guess the guys at Microsoft have been busy for the last few years "designing" squares :doh:

                              How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                              • F Fredrik Bornander

                                I am guessing a lot of people won't mind being moved away from Windows 8. I think it'd more interesting to see what will annoy people with Windows 10, considering how angry people got over the start menu disappearing in Windows 8.

                                Try Grapple for Android, it has a naked pixel guy in it! Also, loads of blood and some snakes.

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                                patbob
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                                Fredrik Bornander wrote:

                                think it'd more interesting to see what will annoy people with Windows 10, considering how angry people got over the start menu disappearing in Windows 8

                                The bar was set pretty low by 8 for those that didn't like it, so its guaranteed that they'll love 10. Human nature.

                                We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                  I know it's supposed to be a free upgrade, that's why we here in NZ have to pay $98 to upgrade our systems. Nothing is ever free.

                                  The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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                                  dandy72
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                                  So if MS is going to "force" you to upgrade, how are they going to reach into your wallet and take that $98? Or did you make the mistake of giving them your credit card details?

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                                    So if MS is going to "force" you to upgrade, how are they going to reach into your wallet and take that $98? Or did you make the mistake of giving them your credit card details?

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                                    Member 10707677
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                                    The $98 charge is by the oem/shops that distribute the upgrade. If we use the windows update installation method, we can easily blow the data caps on our broadband accounts. I have a reference number from MSTECH services that ensures a free upgrade for my computer, but only that one computer. The catch is that I have to go to the MS office in the city centre to collect my upgrade.

                                    The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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                                      The $98 charge is by the oem/shops that distribute the upgrade. If we use the windows update installation method, we can easily blow the data caps on our broadband accounts. I have a reference number from MSTECH services that ensures a free upgrade for my computer, but only that one computer. The catch is that I have to go to the MS office in the city centre to collect my upgrade.

                                      The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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                                      dandy72
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                                      If that's their attitude, the local shops can stuff it. Get the media, and give copies to anyone who asks. The bits are worthless on their own[*]; it's still up to the individual users to get their keys to make use of them. [*] It's a free download available to anyone on MS's own site

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