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I like Win8.1: What Would Compel Me to Upgrade?

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  • N newton saber

    Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?

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    newton.saber wrote:

    MORE INTRUSIONSafety from MICROSOFT.

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    • N newton saber

      Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?

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      The true question is what compelled you to upgrade to Win 8.x...

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      • N newton saber

        Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?

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        I don't like tiles with a Desktop OS. Hence, I loathe with passion, Windows 8.1. I think Windows 10 gives you the ability to opt out of the Tiles UI - I could be wrong on this.

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          The true question is what compelled you to upgrade to Win 8.x...

          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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          newton saber
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          Bought a new computer. Compelled by Microsoft. :) I guess that's the deal here too. But, honestly, all the whining from people about 8.1 was unnecessary. Maybe Windows 8.0 whining was okay, I don't know.

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            I don't like tiles with a Desktop OS. Hence, I loathe with passion, Windows 8.1. I think Windows 10 gives you the ability to opt out of the Tiles UI - I could be wrong on this.

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            I hated the idea of the tiles also when I first saw Windows 8 (pre 8.1) but those things don't bother you at all in Windows 8.1, I promise. As a matter of fact, the new system of finding programs installed on your computer is better than the Start Menu...All Programs... deal. I didn't think so at first either, but it really is. Microsoft did not market this portion very well howeve. And the initial Win 8 thing with no desktop was a terrible marketing fiasco.

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            • N newton saber

              Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?

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              Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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              No, there are no benefits. Take my advice, do not upgrade until Windows 10 is (at least) 6 months old. There are many drivers missing, many drivers crash and much more. Just don't.

              The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                newton.saber wrote:

                MORE INTRUSIONSafety from MICROSOFT.

                Rules for the FOSW ![^]

                if(this.signature != "")
                {
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                }
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                {
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                newton saber
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                Haha, thanks for clearing that up. I feel so much safer intruded upon now. :)

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                • N newton saber

                  Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?

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                  newton.saber wrote:

                  I like Windows 8.1.

                  There is probably a support group for you. If there isn't one locally, you could start one? "Win8.1 users Anonymous" perhaps? You could have a 12 step plan: 1) We admitted we were powerless over out computer - that our PC had become unmanageable. 2) Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. 3) Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of Gates as we understood Him. 4) Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. 5) Admitted to Gates, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. 6) Were entirely ready to have Gates remove all these defects of character. 7) Humbly asked Him to send us Win7. 8) Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9) Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. 10) Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it. 11) Sought through email and forum to improve our conscious contact with Gates as we understood Him, Googling only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. 12) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to Win 8 users and to practice these principles in all our affairs. (based on "The Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous" and not intended to belittle or trivialize addiction to Win8 or alcohol)

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                  • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

                    No, there are no benefits. Take my advice, do not upgrade until Windows 10 is (at least) 6 months old. There are many drivers missing, many drivers crash and much more. Just don't.

                    The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                    newton saber
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                    That is exactly what I was curious about. Drivers!!! I figured it would be like this. I remember O/S 2.0. It beat Microsoft Win95 to market by at least 8 months maybe a year and did true pre-emptive multitasking and was a nice O/S, but hte problem... no drivers for your CD-Rom, no drivers for your sound card, no drivers. Sorry had a slight flash-back there for a moment and almost lost my cool. ;P Thanks for mentioning these woes. I was planning on waiting a while... or forever.

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                    • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

                      No, there are no benefits. Take my advice, do not upgrade until Windows 10 is (at least) 6 months old. There are many drivers missing, many drivers crash and much more. Just don't.

                      The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                      You are right! I've already installed Windows 10 and rolled back to 8.1 over the weekend. The problem I encountered was that if you have a Cisco VPN client, it will destroy the networking stack in Windows 10; which means no Internet, no network connectivity.

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                      • N newton saber

                        I hated the idea of the tiles also when I first saw Windows 8 (pre 8.1) but those things don't bother you at all in Windows 8.1, I promise. As a matter of fact, the new system of finding programs installed on your computer is better than the Start Menu...All Programs... deal. I didn't think so at first either, but it really is. Microsoft did not market this portion very well howeve. And the initial Win 8 thing with no desktop was a terrible marketing fiasco.

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                        Yes, they damn well do! :laugh: I have to deal with an old ladies laptop on Win8.1, and she (an XP user) and I (a Win7 user) loathe them with a passion. They take too much space, they intrude, you can't see what you're doing elsewhere while you use them, they make the computer look suitable for a preschooler, etc. X|

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • N newton saber

                          That is exactly what I was curious about. Drivers!!! I figured it would be like this. I remember O/S 2.0. It beat Microsoft Win95 to market by at least 8 months maybe a year and did true pre-emptive multitasking and was a nice O/S, but hte problem... no drivers for your CD-Rom, no drivers for your sound card, no drivers. Sorry had a slight flash-back there for a moment and almost lost my cool. ;P Thanks for mentioning these woes. I was planning on waiting a while... or forever.

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                          The big problem with OS/2 wasn't the drivers - that could have been sorted - it was the "lock-in" to IBM PS/2 instead of being usable on "any PC" as DOS / Windows was. And given the price difference between a clone PC and a Genuine PS/2...people stayed away in droves! :laugh:

                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                            newton.saber wrote:

                            I like Windows 8.1.

                            There is probably a support group for you. If there isn't one locally, you could start one? "Win8.1 users Anonymous" perhaps? You could have a 12 step plan: 1) We admitted we were powerless over out computer - that our PC had become unmanageable. 2) Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. 3) Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of Gates as we understood Him. 4) Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. 5) Admitted to Gates, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. 6) Were entirely ready to have Gates remove all these defects of character. 7) Humbly asked Him to send us Win7. 8) Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9) Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. 10) Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it. 11) Sought through email and forum to improve our conscious contact with Gates as we understood Him, Googling only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. 12) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to Win 8 users and to practice these principles in all our affairs. (based on "The Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous" and not intended to belittle or trivialize addiction to Win8 or alcohol)

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                            It is people like you who forced Microsoft's hand and made them Jump The Shark (falsely jump from 8 to 10) and who have caused this whole false windows 10 blather. I blame you!!! Windows 8.1 is like a really nice Windows 7, but your brain is too clouded to know the truth. You've been brainwashed into believing the propaganda from those who yell:

                            It is the year of the Linux Desktop!

                            I don't blame you though, because I know that simple minds are often taken over by propaganda and believe only what others tell them. :laugh: I'm totally kidding by the way, Griff. I really do like windows 8.1 though.

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                              The big problem with OS/2 wasn't the drivers - that could have been sorted - it was the "lock-in" to IBM PS/2 instead of being usable on "any PC" as DOS / Windows was. And given the price difference between a clone PC and a Genuine PS/2...people stayed away in droves! :laugh:

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                              OriginalGriff wrote:

                              the "lock-in" to IBM PS/2

                              I don't remember that. We had it installed on IBM clones here. I'm talking about OS/2 2.0 Warp. Warp haha, that was supposed to be cool.

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                              • N newton saber

                                Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?

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                                newton.saber wrote:

                                I like Windows 8.1

                                I don't get it... Man, if you're going to tell a joke, you need some build-up before the punchline. I mean, if my entire joke was "Hey hun, don't forget the coffee!", you wouldn't laugh... I mean, unless you already know that joke... So when you come out and say "I like Windows 8.1", it's just a disconnected punchline...

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                                  Bought a new computer. Compelled by Microsoft. :) I guess that's the deal here too. But, honestly, all the whining from people about 8.1 was unnecessary. Maybe Windows 8.0 whining was okay, I don't know.

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                                  And you do no want to compelle a second time...:-) But seriously - 8.1 was a good fix fo 8, which was terrible... Windows 10 is even better fix for 8...But if it works for you, do not upgrade...

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                                  • I Ian Shlasko

                                    newton.saber wrote:

                                    I like Windows 8.1

                                    I don't get it... Man, if you're going to tell a joke, you need some build-up before the punchline. I mean, if my entire joke was "Hey hun, don't forget the coffee!", you wouldn't laugh... I mean, unless you already know that joke... So when you come out and say "I like Windows 8.1", it's just a disconnected punchline...

                                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                    It was me with the upvote, okay? :) Now I know I'm on to something. If everyone liked windows 8.1 then there would definitely be something wrong with it.

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                                      It is people like you who forced Microsoft's hand and made them Jump The Shark (falsely jump from 8 to 10) and who have caused this whole false windows 10 blather. I blame you!!! Windows 8.1 is like a really nice Windows 7, but your brain is too clouded to know the truth. You've been brainwashed into believing the propaganda from those who yell:

                                      It is the year of the Linux Desktop!

                                      I don't blame you though, because I know that simple minds are often taken over by propaganda and believe only what others tell them. :laugh: I'm totally kidding by the way, Griff. I really do like windows 8.1 though.

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                                      Pfft, I have two Linux desktops... Ok, well... One is a Raspberry Pi that I remote into from Win7... And the other is a desktop that I haven't turned on in about six months. But hey, I have more non-Windows computers than Windows ones... 2 x Windows (One Win7, one Win8.1) 3 x Linux (2 x Ubuntu, 1 x Raspbian) 2 x Android (One phone, one tablet) Ok, so the only ones I use on a daily basis are the Win7 desktop and the phone... But still... Yeah, Linux desktops just aren't there yet.

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                                      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                      • N newton saber

                                        It was me with the upvote, okay? :) Now I know I'm on to something. If everyone liked windows 8.1 then there would definitely be something wrong with it.

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                                        Well, jokes aside, I actually don't hate Win8.1 THAT much. I have it on my laptop (It came with it)... But that's a TOUCHSCREEN laptop. That's the key. What's the point of that horrible start screen if you're not on a touch-capable device? I assume that it's a decent OS other than that... But because of that start screen, I don't use it enough to find out.

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                                        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                          Pfft, I have two Linux desktops... Ok, well... One is a Raspberry Pi that I remote into from Win7... And the other is a desktop that I haven't turned on in about six months. But hey, I have more non-Windows computers than Windows ones... 2 x Windows (One Win7, one Win8.1) 3 x Linux (2 x Ubuntu, 1 x Raspbian) 2 x Android (One phone, one tablet) Ok, so the only ones I use on a daily basis are the Win7 desktop and the phone... But still... Yeah, Linux desktops just aren't there yet.

                                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                          newton saber
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                                          I have the RPi also, running Raspbian. I really do like it. Takes me back to simpler days. I have another older dual-boot laptop running some relatively current Ubuntu version but mostly it still gets booted to Windows 7.

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