I like Win8.1: What Would Compel Me to Upgrade?
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Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?
No, there are no benefits. Take my advice, do not upgrade until Windows 10 is (at least) 6 months old. There are many drivers missing, many drivers crash and much more. Just don't.
The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~
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Haha, thanks for clearing that up. I feel so much safer intruded upon now. :)
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Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?
newton.saber wrote:
I like Windows 8.1.
There is probably a support group for you. If there isn't one locally, you could start one? "Win8.1 users Anonymous" perhaps? You could have a 12 step plan: 1) We admitted we were powerless over out computer - that our PC had become unmanageable. 2) Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. 3) Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of Gates as we understood Him. 4) Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. 5) Admitted to Gates, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. 6) Were entirely ready to have Gates remove all these defects of character. 7) Humbly asked Him to send us Win7. 8) Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9) Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. 10) Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it. 11) Sought through email and forum to improve our conscious contact with Gates as we understood Him, Googling only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. 12) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to Win 8 users and to practice these principles in all our affairs. (based on "The Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous" and not intended to belittle or trivialize addiction to Win8 or alcohol)
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No, there are no benefits. Take my advice, do not upgrade until Windows 10 is (at least) 6 months old. There are many drivers missing, many drivers crash and much more. Just don't.
The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~
That is exactly what I was curious about. Drivers!!! I figured it would be like this. I remember O/S 2.0. It beat Microsoft Win95 to market by at least 8 months maybe a year and did true pre-emptive multitasking and was a nice O/S, but hte problem... no drivers for your CD-Rom, no drivers for your sound card, no drivers. Sorry had a slight flash-back there for a moment and almost lost my cool. ;P Thanks for mentioning these woes. I was planning on waiting a while... or forever.
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No, there are no benefits. Take my advice, do not upgrade until Windows 10 is (at least) 6 months old. There are many drivers missing, many drivers crash and much more. Just don't.
The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~
You are right! I've already installed Windows 10 and rolled back to 8.1 over the weekend. The problem I encountered was that if you have a Cisco VPN client, it will destroy the networking stack in Windows 10; which means no Internet, no network connectivity.
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I hated the idea of the tiles also when I first saw Windows 8 (pre 8.1) but those things don't bother you at all in Windows 8.1, I promise. As a matter of fact, the new system of finding programs installed on your computer is better than the Start Menu...All Programs... deal. I didn't think so at first either, but it really is. Microsoft did not market this portion very well howeve. And the initial Win 8 thing with no desktop was a terrible marketing fiasco.
Yes, they damn well do! :laugh: I have to deal with an old ladies laptop on Win8.1, and she (an XP user) and I (a Win7 user) loathe them with a passion. They take too much space, they intrude, you can't see what you're doing elsewhere while you use them, they make the computer look suitable for a preschooler, etc. X|
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That is exactly what I was curious about. Drivers!!! I figured it would be like this. I remember O/S 2.0. It beat Microsoft Win95 to market by at least 8 months maybe a year and did true pre-emptive multitasking and was a nice O/S, but hte problem... no drivers for your CD-Rom, no drivers for your sound card, no drivers. Sorry had a slight flash-back there for a moment and almost lost my cool. ;P Thanks for mentioning these woes. I was planning on waiting a while... or forever.
The big problem with OS/2 wasn't the drivers - that could have been sorted - it was the "lock-in" to IBM PS/2 instead of being usable on "any PC" as DOS / Windows was. And given the price difference between a clone PC and a Genuine PS/2...people stayed away in droves! :laugh:
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newton.saber wrote:
I like Windows 8.1.
There is probably a support group for you. If there isn't one locally, you could start one? "Win8.1 users Anonymous" perhaps? You could have a 12 step plan: 1) We admitted we were powerless over out computer - that our PC had become unmanageable. 2) Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. 3) Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of Gates as we understood Him. 4) Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. 5) Admitted to Gates, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. 6) Were entirely ready to have Gates remove all these defects of character. 7) Humbly asked Him to send us Win7. 8) Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9) Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. 10) Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it. 11) Sought through email and forum to improve our conscious contact with Gates as we understood Him, Googling only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. 12) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to Win 8 users and to practice these principles in all our affairs. (based on "The Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous" and not intended to belittle or trivialize addiction to Win8 or alcohol)
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It is people like you who forced Microsoft's hand and made them Jump The Shark (falsely jump from 8 to 10) and who have caused this whole false windows 10 blather. I blame you!!! Windows 8.1 is like a really nice Windows 7, but your brain is too clouded to know the truth. You've been brainwashed into believing the propaganda from those who yell:
It is the year of the Linux Desktop!
I don't blame you though, because I know that simple minds are often taken over by propaganda and believe only what others tell them. :laugh: I'm totally kidding by the way, Griff. I really do like windows 8.1 though.
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The big problem with OS/2 wasn't the drivers - that could have been sorted - it was the "lock-in" to IBM PS/2 instead of being usable on "any PC" as DOS / Windows was. And given the price difference between a clone PC and a Genuine PS/2...people stayed away in droves! :laugh:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
the "lock-in" to IBM PS/2
I don't remember that. We had it installed on IBM clones here. I'm talking about OS/2 2.0 Warp. Warp haha, that was supposed to be cool.
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Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?
newton.saber wrote:
I like Windows 8.1
I don't get it... Man, if you're going to tell a joke, you need some build-up before the punchline. I mean, if my entire joke was "Hey hun, don't forget the coffee!", you wouldn't laugh... I mean, unless you already know that joke... So when you come out and say "I like Windows 8.1", it's just a disconnected punchline...
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Bought a new computer. Compelled by Microsoft. :) I guess that's the deal here too. But, honestly, all the whining from people about 8.1 was unnecessary. Maybe Windows 8.0 whining was okay, I don't know.
And you do no want to compelle a second time...:-) But seriously - 8.1 was a good fix fo 8, which was terrible... Windows 10 is even better fix for 8...But if it works for you, do not upgrade...
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newton.saber wrote:
I like Windows 8.1
I don't get it... Man, if you're going to tell a joke, you need some build-up before the punchline. I mean, if my entire joke was "Hey hun, don't forget the coffee!", you wouldn't laugh... I mean, unless you already know that joke... So when you come out and say "I like Windows 8.1", it's just a disconnected punchline...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)It was me with the upvote, okay? :) Now I know I'm on to something. If everyone liked windows 8.1 then there would definitely be something wrong with it.
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It is people like you who forced Microsoft's hand and made them Jump The Shark (falsely jump from 8 to 10) and who have caused this whole false windows 10 blather. I blame you!!! Windows 8.1 is like a really nice Windows 7, but your brain is too clouded to know the truth. You've been brainwashed into believing the propaganda from those who yell:
It is the year of the Linux Desktop!
I don't blame you though, because I know that simple minds are often taken over by propaganda and believe only what others tell them. :laugh: I'm totally kidding by the way, Griff. I really do like windows 8.1 though.
Pfft, I have two Linux desktops... Ok, well... One is a Raspberry Pi that I remote into from Win7... And the other is a desktop that I haven't turned on in about six months. But hey, I have more non-Windows computers than Windows ones... 2 x Windows (One Win7, one Win8.1) 3 x Linux (2 x Ubuntu, 1 x Raspbian) 2 x Android (One phone, one tablet) Ok, so the only ones I use on a daily basis are the Win7 desktop and the phone... But still... Yeah, Linux desktops just aren't there yet.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
It was me with the upvote, okay? :) Now I know I'm on to something. If everyone liked windows 8.1 then there would definitely be something wrong with it.
Well, jokes aside, I actually don't hate Win8.1 THAT much. I have it on my laptop (It came with it)... But that's a TOUCHSCREEN laptop. That's the key. What's the point of that horrible start screen if you're not on a touch-capable device? I assume that it's a decent OS other than that... But because of that start screen, I don't use it enough to find out.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Pfft, I have two Linux desktops... Ok, well... One is a Raspberry Pi that I remote into from Win7... And the other is a desktop that I haven't turned on in about six months. But hey, I have more non-Windows computers than Windows ones... 2 x Windows (One Win7, one Win8.1) 3 x Linux (2 x Ubuntu, 1 x Raspbian) 2 x Android (One phone, one tablet) Ok, so the only ones I use on a daily basis are the Win7 desktop and the phone... But still... Yeah, Linux desktops just aren't there yet.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I have the RPi also, running Raspbian. I really do like it. Takes me back to simpler days. I have another older dual-boot laptop running some relatively current Ubuntu version but mostly it still gets booted to Windows 7.
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I have the RPi also, running Raspbian. I really do like it. Takes me back to simpler days. I have another older dual-boot laptop running some relatively current Ubuntu version but mostly it still gets booted to Windows 7.
Yeah, the Pi is great... Well, the Pi 2B, actually... Just got it last week. Trouble is, I haven't managed to think of anything useful to do with it yet. Really just bought it because I was having a really depressing week and needed to take my mind off things... But hey, I have a server running 24/7 in my apartment, using about as much electricity as a cell phone... I'm sure I'll think of something cool to do with it.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
No, there are no benefits. Take my advice, do not upgrade until Windows 10 is (at least) 6 months old. There are many drivers missing, many drivers crash and much more. Just don't.
The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~
Unless your driver author did something elephanting retarded, and presumably declined to get WHQL certified, your 8.1 drivers should all just work in 10. A number of hardware types also offer enhanced driver models to enable extra features; but the 8.1 binaries all should still be supported. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/Dn941239%28v=VS.85%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396[^]
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You are right! I've already installed Windows 10 and rolled back to 8.1 over the weekend. The problem I encountered was that if you have a Cisco VPN client, it will destroy the networking stack in Windows 10; which means no Internet, no network connectivity.
Having had the misfortune to use Cisco's VPN crapware; the only part of that that surprises me is that they managed to make it work with 8.x at all. :doh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1. I develop on it and it works great for me so why would I even care about Windows 10? Seriously, are there any benefits? Mostly what it sounds like I get is MORE INTRUSION from MICROSOFT. Anyone? Anyone?
My main OS is X64 Vista Ultimate, this desktop was a tripple boot with XP,Vista,Win7 untill the Xp partition got messed up. So now I do all of my work in In Vista Now that I know it from top to bottom and I've managed to keep from doing a reinstall since,(from Win32_OperatingSystem)
InstallDate: 11/17/2009 10:10:54 PM
Neither Windows 8, 8.1, nor windows 10 has any extra features that would make me want to upgrade downgrade, even after the end of support for Vista or Windows 7. My new Windows7 laptop, I still have to go in and find and change the setting to keep it from showing so much in the "Public" folders.
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No, there are no benefits. Take my advice, do not upgrade until Windows 10 is (at least) 6 months old. There are many drivers missing, many drivers crash and much more. Just don't.
The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~
Of all the Windows 10 upgrade horror stories I've read so far, it seems to me that drivers are actually seldom part of the equation. Personally, I have some that go all the way back to Vista and they work just fine. If there's something that'll ruin your day when installing Windows 10, drivers are probably not gonna be it.
