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  • C Chris Maunder

    1. You can't drag an address from Edge onto the desktop to create a shortcut. Dumb omission. 2. Connecting to a VPN now requires 4 clicks (including having the "Settings" dialog open) instead of two clicks almost in-place) 3. No areaAero. I know it's in there, buried, but so far I've not had any luck enabling it. ...and if that's all I can find to complain about then something went right somewhere.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Dan Neely
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    Chris Maunder wrote:

    • Connecting to a VPN now requires 4 clicks (including having the "Settings" dialog open) instead of two clicks almost in-place)

    The short version of my current Weven VPN experience in 20 easy steps is: 0) Click start. 1) Click on the Cisco VPN app pinned on the start menu (because I can never remember WTE it's called to use search). 2) Click on the Connect button on the app which opens by the tray. 3) Realize I forgot my VPN password. 4) Start a new explorer instance. 5) Double click on My Documents. 6) Find the GPG encrypted file the VPN password is in. 7) Double click on it. 8) Wait for GPG to open. 9) Click on Decrypt. 10) Enter my password. 11) Click OK. 12) Open the file. 13) Enter the password and token from my RSA key into the VPN app. 14) Click connect. 15) Wait. 16) Click OK to dismiss the welcome banner I get sent by my employer. 17) Close the password file. 18) Right click on the decrypted password file. 19) Select secure erase from the context menu. It gets even more fun if my VPN password has expired and I need to add steps to change it including waiting a minute for the next RSA token number and then update an re-encrypt the password file. And you're whining about a mere four clicks. :(( PS I found a major bug in your markdown implementation. If I turn it on and replace the )'s with .'s it converts my properly numbered list to VB6 mode and starts it at 1.:mad:

    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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    • M Mike Winiberg

      Doesn't seem to work with multiple monitors: I have 5 on a 6 monitor display card, working fine on Win 8.1 After upgrade can only see/enable two of them. Had to revert to 8.1. On tablet/laptop hybrid: works well, but annoying that selection of WiFi networks has become more difficult (more clicks, not all settings in one place), also that number of recently used items takes more space for far fewer. Likewise, icons in system tray take more room, and often disappear entirely, only coming back after resizing tray. Quite difficult to switch to desktop mode (no tile!) when in tablet mode and you want to keep hybrid in tablet shape but work on desktop (hybrid is a Yoga so can be used with KVM in tent shape - win 10 doesn't allow for this despite such configs being possible with the Surface!) Seems impossible to organise tiles properly on new start menu, so I'm going to revert to classic shell. Only serious problem so far: breaks Google Sync for Outlook, which has to be reinstalled.

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      Weylyn Cadwell
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      Had to revert to 8.1.

      Ouch.

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      • J Josh_T

        I'd wager it has something to do with the law differences between countries. In this case, I would immediately assume there are differences in privacy laws since Cortana is doing a lot of listening and transmitting of personal or in-home communication.

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        Mario Vernari
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        Gonna love even more Canada (and less Cortana) ;P

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        • C Colin Mullikin

          I've had some weird resolution issues, but I guess that's what I get for having a 4K monitor... :sigh:

          The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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          Lost User
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          Curious what you use the 4k Monitor for. I haven't seen too much content or content providers that would justify the purchase of it.

          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Check you have the correct speech and language packs installed for your region. That's the usual issue if you can get Cortana in your country.

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            Lost User
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            Hmm did not think of that. I will check into it. Thank you :)

            Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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            • M Mike Winiberg

              Doesn't seem to work with multiple monitors: I have 5 on a 6 monitor display card, working fine on Win 8.1 After upgrade can only see/enable two of them. Had to revert to 8.1. On tablet/laptop hybrid: works well, but annoying that selection of WiFi networks has become more difficult (more clicks, not all settings in one place), also that number of recently used items takes more space for far fewer. Likewise, icons in system tray take more room, and often disappear entirely, only coming back after resizing tray. Quite difficult to switch to desktop mode (no tile!) when in tablet mode and you want to keep hybrid in tablet shape but work on desktop (hybrid is a Yoga so can be used with KVM in tent shape - win 10 doesn't allow for this despite such configs being possible with the Surface!) Seems impossible to organise tiles properly on new start menu, so I'm going to revert to classic shell. Only serious problem so far: breaks Google Sync for Outlook, which has to be reinstalled.

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              Lost User
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              Mike Winiberg wrote:

              hybrid is a Yoga so can be used with KVM in tent shape - win 10 doesn't allow for this despite such configs being possible with the Surface!

              Ran into same situation with the HP Spectre which Microsoft was a huge partner in making. Quite frustrating.

              Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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              • F FIorian Schneidereit

                This post is pretty old in regards to the Windows 10 development cycle, but Aero Lite is still there, but this theme never had the glass effect. (Maybe I just misunderstand here something? I mean, it really depends on what are you referring to by "Aero").

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                jsc42
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                It doesn't give the cascading perspectives of the windows with {windowkey]-Tab; you just get a tiled effect of min-windows, similar to the line of mini-windows with Alt-Tab. (Just checked - the same happens with the default aero.theme as well). I liked the cascade as it gave you something meaningless to do which waiting.

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  1. You can't drag an address from Edge onto the desktop to create a shortcut. Dumb omission. 2. Connecting to a VPN now requires 4 clicks (including having the "Settings" dialog open) instead of two clicks almost in-place) 3. No areaAero. I know it's in there, buried, but so far I've not had any luck enabling it. ...and if that's all I can find to complain about then something went right somewhere.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  jsc42
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                  Network Map no longer available (pictorial relationship between devices, switches, routers etc; NOT map network drive). It appears that this was not in W8 either, but I've jumped from W7 to W10 so I have only just missed it. :(

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                  • L Lost User

                    Curious what you use the 4k Monitor for. I haven't seen too much content or content providers that would justify the purchase of it.

                    Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                    Colin Mullikin
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                    I needed a monitor, and it was on sale. :-\

                    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      1. You can't drag an address from Edge onto the desktop to create a shortcut. Dumb omission. 2. Connecting to a VPN now requires 4 clicks (including having the "Settings" dialog open) instead of two clicks almost in-place) 3. No areaAero. I know it's in there, buried, but so far I've not had any luck enabling it. ...and if that's all I can find to complain about then something went right somewhere.

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Daniel R Przybylski
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                      The people app doesn't let you link a Skype contact to your other contacts. (How much did Micr$oft pay for Skype?). And there is no linking to social apps in spite of how the settings tells you to go download a social app. (To me, the one ground breaking thing that no one ever noticed in Win8 is how you could base your account on an existing Microsoft (Live, Outlook, Hotmail) account and all of your devices would automatically sync. Wonderful if you're a Win Phone user.) You can't pin a contact to the start... area/region. You can't delete anniversaries from the people app. I can't sweep (i.e. delete all from a sender) in the Mail app. Icon/buttons are annoyingly small on my tablet whilst ala tablet mode. Splitting screens was so easy in 8.1, but now it hardly ever works. Sometimes it works but I wasn't trying to split screens. Windows 10 apologizes to the desktop user but alienates the tablet user.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        1. You can't drag an address from Edge onto the desktop to create a shortcut. Dumb omission. 2. Connecting to a VPN now requires 4 clicks (including having the "Settings" dialog open) instead of two clicks almost in-place) 3. No areaAero. I know it's in there, buried, but so far I've not had any luck enabling it. ...and if that's all I can find to complain about then something went right somewhere.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                        Picked up a new MSI gaming laptop recently. Came with Windows 8.1 and updated it to Windows 10 Pro (had a spare 8.1 Pro disc to do the upgrade). 1. Installed Start10 (saw a later post that you installed it as well) and rarely look at the Windows 10 menu again. 2. Cortana was the first thing I disabled, along with web search. I want to search my computer, not the interwebs. I have Firefox and Google for that. 3. Disabled as much of the "phoning home" as I could both during the upgrade and post upgrade. 4. Local account creation seems to be hidden away more than in Windows 8.1 Overall, the laptop and OS are working well for my needs. VS2015CE installed without any issues. Expression 4 Suite works well. Still need to install my video editing suite and a number of other small utilities. I've only run across one or two games (so far) that I haven't been able to run at all. And some of the older games no longer spew rainbow colors all over the screen (e.g. StarCraft). Pretty impressed with it overall. Laptop is an MSI GE62 2QD Apache Pro with 16 GB memory, 256 GB M.2 solid state (with ports for two more), GTX 960M with 2 GB memory, 2 TB hdd, DVD R/W (which can be switched out for another hdd if desired), 15.6" full HD screen. Fast little machine. :) Flynn


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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Cortana isn't available in Canada. It's available in the US and UK, but not Canada. This is par for the course - so much so that I no longer get angry - just sad. Resolution? No issues my end.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Murray Whipps
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                          Cortana isn't available 'cause they can't get the accent down right. It keeps saying abowt instead of aboot.

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            1. You can't drag an address from Edge onto the desktop to create a shortcut. Dumb omission. 2. Connecting to a VPN now requires 4 clicks (including having the "Settings" dialog open) instead of two clicks almost in-place) 3. No areaAero. I know it's in there, buried, but so far I've not had any luck enabling it. ...and if that's all I can find to complain about then something went right somewhere.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            code_junkie
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                            My biggest problem is using a MS account for my computer login; Not going to happen ever. Transmitting the login password across the internet is a Darwinian security flaw. The Man-in-the-Middle sees everything plain text (private key required). Running under a local account breaks everything I was excited about: Cortana, the App Store, Groove, Xbox. They get Kudos for IE11 still being there, demanding IE to be part of the OS was one of Microsoft's greatest mistakes in the browser war. Edge is not ready (meant?) for the desktop. It's strictly a touch based browser for people with really fat fingers (check out that right click menu). Edge security settings are non-existent compared to IE11. I now know why Win10 was free. The only perk I get coming from Win7 is being able to compile Windows Phone apps, but after looking at C++/CX I don't see that happening either. I'm not willing to put a lot of effort into supporting a sandboxed architecture (COM sucks). The rollback to Win7 countdown has started.

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              1. You can't drag an address from Edge onto the desktop to create a shortcut. Dumb omission. 2. Connecting to a VPN now requires 4 clicks (including having the "Settings" dialog open) instead of two clicks almost in-place) 3. No areaAero. I know it's in there, buried, but so far I've not had any luck enabling it. ...and if that's all I can find to complain about then something went right somewhere.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              Aero

                              How to Enable Aero Glass Transparency with Blur in Windows 10?[^]

                              Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                              • M Murray Whipps

                                Cortana isn't available 'cause they can't get the accent down right. It keeps saying abowt instead of aboot.

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                                Vark111
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                                Also, because it was too difficult to get the voice recognition engine to filter out all the "eh"s.

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  Cortana isn't available in Canada. It's available in the US and UK, but not Canada. This is par for the course - so much so that I no longer get angry - just sad. Resolution? No issues my end.

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  SeattleC
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                                  Yeah, probably Cortana's French isn't good enough.

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    1. You can't drag an address from Edge onto the desktop to create a shortcut. Dumb omission. 2. Connecting to a VPN now requires 4 clicks (including having the "Settings" dialog open) instead of two clicks almost in-place) 3. No areaAero. I know it's in there, buried, but so far I've not had any luck enabling it. ...and if that's all I can find to complain about then something went right somewhere.

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    SeattleC
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                                    How about * Edge is weirdly unstable. Can't quite figure out what's broken, because I switched back to Firefox on the first day, simply because I needed to be productive. * Network subsystem is unstable. For several days after installation, my wired network connection would stop being able to hear the internet after about 30 minutes. I know my connection was live because I could see the local net and also beause I could connect wirelessly and get the internet, for another 30 minutes. A subsequent patch partially fixed the problem, so that now it only *occasionally* can't find the internet. This was on a six-month-old Surface Pro 3, so you'd think they would have tested on this device. Win 8.1 and other apps have been rock-solid, so I don't suspect a hardware problem. I like the look of Windows 10. I want to like it. But I very nearly reverted. Way too buggy. If Microsoft's strategy is to shortchange testing on O/S releases, people better sell their stock. Oy!

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      Hmm did not think of that. I will check into it. Thank you :)

                                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      You are most welcome.

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                                      • R Ron Anders

                                        What did you Canucks do to deserve such mistreatment? Oh yeah, you gave us Alanis Morissette. She is enough to cancel out all that Rush and BTO gave to us.

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                                        obermd
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                                        And Justin Bieber :(

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                                        • J jsc42

                                          It doesn't give the cascading perspectives of the windows with {windowkey]-Tab; you just get a tiled effect of min-windows, similar to the line of mini-windows with Alt-Tab. (Just checked - the same happens with the default aero.theme as well). I liked the cascade as it gave you something meaningless to do which waiting.

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                                          FIorian Schneidereit
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                                          You're referring to "Aero Flip" here. Well, unfortunately that's gone since Windows 8 as far as I remember. TBH, I completely forgot about that, every time people complain about "missing Aero" it's only about the window transparency.

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