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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I can't do any work. Why not, you ask? Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders. I can't even back up, because it has decided that my whole NAS is read only as well. Did Apple send some of it's developers behind enemy lines to produce this misbegotten pile of stupidity, or does MS have a death wish - because I notice via Google that I'm not the only one this is happening to. I am so tempted to reload my last disk image - this is just wasting my time.

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    OriginalGriff
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    Even if you are the owner, and you disable Read-only on all the files, that doesn;t do it. The permissions applied to files and folders have been "tampered with" by Win10. Open an explorer window, and right click "Documents" Select "Properties" and wait until it finishes enumerating files - a while in my case. Select the "Security" tab. Select the users group. Press "Edit" Let it finish...and select the users group again. Notice that you can "Read & execute" and "List folder contents". Click "Full Control" under "Allow". Click "Apply"...and wait again. In my case it's retagging 128,000 files or so... If it "fails to enumerate", click "Continue", repeatedly. It did this a lot with me, possibly because it's in use - by windows because you are using windows to modify files in the folder... When it finishes, click "OK". Pour yourself a coffee, and swallow a couple of paracetamol...

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      I can't do any work. Why not, you ask? Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders. I can't even back up, because it has decided that my whole NAS is read only as well. Did Apple send some of it's developers behind enemy lines to produce this misbegotten pile of stupidity, or does MS have a death wish - because I notice via Google that I'm not the only one this is happening to. I am so tempted to reload my last disk image - this is just wasting my time.

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      Rage
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      Nasty bug, OneDrive related. Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/19qqf8/windows_keeps_changing_the_permissions_for_my/c8qh0at[^]

      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I can't do any work. Why not, you ask? Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders. I can't even back up, because it has decided that my whole NAS is read only as well. Did Apple send some of it's developers behind enemy lines to produce this misbegotten pile of stupidity, or does MS have a death wish - because I notice via Google that I'm not the only one this is happening to. I am so tempted to reload my last disk image - this is just wasting my time.

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        RugbyLeague
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        If you did the "upgrade" you can revert to the previous Windows version very easily - I reverted my home PC to Win 7 last night - took about an hour but was a fully automated process

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        • R RugbyLeague

          If you did the "upgrade" you can revert to the previous Windows version very easily - I reverted my home PC to Win 7 last night - took about an hour but was a fully automated process

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          Rage
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          Formatting the hard drive first helped a lot, I guess.

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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          • R Rage

            Formatting the hard drive first helped a lot, I guess.

            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            RugbyLeague
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            #8

            Eh?

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            • R RugbyLeague

              Eh?

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              Rage
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              I was trying to make a fun statement by telling that you reverted but first lost all your data. I should have added ten joke icons.

              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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              • R Rage

                I was trying to make a fun statement by telling that you reverted but first lost all your data. I should have added ten joke icons.

                Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                RugbyLeague
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                I suspected as much but one can never be too careful :)

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                • R RugbyLeague

                  If you did the "upgrade" you can revert to the previous Windows version very easily - I reverted my home PC to Win 7 last night - took about an hour but was a fully automated process

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  You trust Microsoft that much? :laugh: I took a AOMEI disk image of the whole HDD the night before the upgrade just to be sure I could revert to exactly what I had, so if I do "Go back" that's the path I'll take. But at the moment, I'm trying to struggle through and get to like this steaming pile of cow manure new operating system, if only because I know there will be quite a few people who I'll have to support who'll be using it and I don't want to have to tell them "sod off, you're on your own with that!" But it is making itself extremely difficult to like: two whole days wasted so far, and yet to find anything I prefer compared to Win 7. Better than Win 8, but that's like saying I prefer my excrement polished to a mirror finish...

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    You trust Microsoft that much? :laugh: I took a AOMEI disk image of the whole HDD the night before the upgrade just to be sure I could revert to exactly what I had, so if I do "Go back" that's the path I'll take. But at the moment, I'm trying to struggle through and get to like this steaming pile of cow manure new operating system, if only because I know there will be quite a few people who I'll have to support who'll be using it and I don't want to have to tell them "sod off, you're on your own with that!" But it is making itself extremely difficult to like: two whole days wasted so far, and yet to find anything I prefer compared to Win 7. Better than Win 8, but that's like saying I prefer my excrement polished to a mirror finish...

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    RugbyLeague
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                    There was nothing on there I couldn't recover easily by other means :)

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      I can't do any work. Why not, you ask? Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders. I can't even back up, because it has decided that my whole NAS is read only as well. Did Apple send some of it's developers behind enemy lines to produce this misbegotten pile of stupidity, or does MS have a death wish - because I notice via Google that I'm not the only one this is happening to. I am so tempted to reload my last disk image - this is just wasting my time.

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      newton saber
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                      Would you happen to know what caused this to occur? You are really making me afraid of Windows 10.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I can't do any work. Why not, you ask? Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders. I can't even back up, because it has decided that my whole NAS is read only as well. Did Apple send some of it's developers behind enemy lines to produce this misbegotten pile of stupidity, or does MS have a death wish - because I notice via Google that I'm not the only one this is happening to. I am so tempted to reload my last disk image - this is just wasting my time.

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        I never upgrade. I always run fresh installs. No matter whether it's the OS, Office or VS. Tends to work much better that way.

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                          Would you happen to know what caused this to occur? You are really making me afraid of Windows 10.

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          Not sure - I think it has to do with it insisting I log in via my MS account, rather than the "Griff" account I used on Win7 (with a blank password - it no longer works in Win10, it seems to have set a password and won;t tell me what it is, so I have to use the MS account I was signed in to via VS instead). It's fixable, but it's just a PITA. I suspect it's going to really annoy non-technical users (i.e. most of 'em!) I dunno - are you using Win7 or Win 8.x at the moment? I suspect that Win8 users will work because they needed a linked MS account to set up in the first place. But I don't think Win10 has the "Wow" factor MS needed. :sigh:

                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            I never upgrade. I always run fresh installs. No matter whether it's the OS, Office or VS. Tends to work much better that way.

                            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                            Rage
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                            That's my tactic with women. Works pretty good.

                            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                            • N newton saber

                              Would you happen to know what caused this to occur? You are really making me afraid of Windows 10.

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                              Rage
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                              Look at my above post, it is seemingly related to OneDrive.

                              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                Not sure - I think it has to do with it insisting I log in via my MS account, rather than the "Griff" account I used on Win7 (with a blank password - it no longer works in Win10, it seems to have set a password and won;t tell me what it is, so I have to use the MS account I was signed in to via VS instead). It's fixable, but it's just a PITA. I suspect it's going to really annoy non-technical users (i.e. most of 'em!) I dunno - are you using Win7 or Win 8.x at the moment? I suspect that Win8 users will work because they needed a linked MS account to set up in the first place. But I don't think Win10 has the "Wow" factor MS needed. :sigh:

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                newton saber
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                                #18

                                Thanks very much for the reply. Sorry about your current troubles. Yes, I am on Windows 8.1. My son upgraded recently from Win 7 to 10 and he didn't report a problem so I was curious about this. He may have already had an MS account.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  You trust Microsoft that much? :laugh: I took a AOMEI disk image of the whole HDD the night before the upgrade just to be sure I could revert to exactly what I had, so if I do "Go back" that's the path I'll take. But at the moment, I'm trying to struggle through and get to like this steaming pile of cow manure new operating system, if only because I know there will be quite a few people who I'll have to support who'll be using it and I don't want to have to tell them "sod off, you're on your own with that!" But it is making itself extremely difficult to like: two whole days wasted so far, and yet to find anything I prefer compared to Win 7. Better than Win 8, but that's like saying I prefer my excrement polished to a mirror finish...

                                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                  pkfox
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                                  Griff , have you got the paid version of AOMEI ?

                                  We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                    Griff , have you got the paid version of AOMEI ?

                                    We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                    OriginalGriff
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #20

                                    Nope, just the free "Standard 2.8" - works fine so far. I might even upgrade it to 3.1 once I'm happy with the PC. :-D

                                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      I can't do any work. Why not, you ask? Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders. I can't even back up, because it has decided that my whole NAS is read only as well. Did Apple send some of it's developers behind enemy lines to produce this misbegotten pile of stupidity, or does MS have a death wish - because I notice via Google that I'm not the only one this is happening to. I am so tempted to reload my last disk image - this is just wasting my time.

                                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                      Kevin Marois
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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders.

                                      Are you kidding?? Seriously? Why would anyone want to "upgrade" to this steaming pile if exrecement?? I really don't see the fascination to rush to install Win10. You know, you brought this on yourself. You HAD to know this sort of thing would happen..

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        Not sure - I think it has to do with it insisting I log in via my MS account, rather than the "Griff" account I used on Win7 (with a blank password - it no longer works in Win10, it seems to have set a password and won;t tell me what it is, so I have to use the MS account I was signed in to via VS instead). It's fixable, but it's just a PITA. I suspect it's going to really annoy non-technical users (i.e. most of 'em!) I dunno - are you using Win7 or Win 8.x at the moment? I suspect that Win8 users will work because they needed a linked MS account to set up in the first place. But I don't think Win10 has the "Wow" factor MS needed. :sigh:

                                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                        9082365
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                                        It didn't insist. The option to sign in using a local account (ie. the one you had before) was there ... I know ... that's the way I did it ... if you went through the custom install and opted out of the information exchange thingies and aren't using Cortana.

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                                        • 9 9082365

                                          It didn't insist. The option to sign in using a local account (ie. the one you had before) was there ... I know ... that's the way I did it ... if you went through the custom install and opted out of the information exchange thingies and aren't using Cortana.

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                                          OriginalGriff
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                                          That's what I did. Followed the privacy suggestions here: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.single.html[^]

                                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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