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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I can't do any work. Why not, you ask? Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders. I can't even back up, because it has decided that my whole NAS is read only as well. Did Apple send some of it's developers behind enemy lines to produce this misbegotten pile of stupidity, or does MS have a death wish - because I notice via Google that I'm not the only one this is happening to. I am so tempted to reload my last disk image - this is just wasting my time.

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    newton saber
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    Would you happen to know what caused this to occur? You are really making me afraid of Windows 10.

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      I can't do any work. Why not, you ask? Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders. I can't even back up, because it has decided that my whole NAS is read only as well. Did Apple send some of it's developers behind enemy lines to produce this misbegotten pile of stupidity, or does MS have a death wish - because I notice via Google that I'm not the only one this is happening to. I am so tempted to reload my last disk image - this is just wasting my time.

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      Jorgen Andersson
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      I never upgrade. I always run fresh installs. No matter whether it's the OS, Office or VS. Tends to work much better that way.

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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      • N newton saber

        Would you happen to know what caused this to occur? You are really making me afraid of Windows 10.

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        OriginalGriff
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        Not sure - I think it has to do with it insisting I log in via my MS account, rather than the "Griff" account I used on Win7 (with a blank password - it no longer works in Win10, it seems to have set a password and won;t tell me what it is, so I have to use the MS account I was signed in to via VS instead). It's fixable, but it's just a PITA. I suspect it's going to really annoy non-technical users (i.e. most of 'em!) I dunno - are you using Win7 or Win 8.x at the moment? I suspect that Win8 users will work because they needed a linked MS account to set up in the first place. But I don't think Win10 has the "Wow" factor MS needed. :sigh:

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        • J Jorgen Andersson

          I never upgrade. I always run fresh installs. No matter whether it's the OS, Office or VS. Tends to work much better that way.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          Rage
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          That's my tactic with women. Works pretty good.

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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          • N newton saber

            Would you happen to know what caused this to occur? You are really making me afraid of Windows 10.

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            Rage
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            Look at my above post, it is seemingly related to OneDrive.

            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Not sure - I think it has to do with it insisting I log in via my MS account, rather than the "Griff" account I used on Win7 (with a blank password - it no longer works in Win10, it seems to have set a password and won;t tell me what it is, so I have to use the MS account I was signed in to via VS instead). It's fixable, but it's just a PITA. I suspect it's going to really annoy non-technical users (i.e. most of 'em!) I dunno - are you using Win7 or Win 8.x at the moment? I suspect that Win8 users will work because they needed a linked MS account to set up in the first place. But I don't think Win10 has the "Wow" factor MS needed. :sigh:

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              newton saber
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              Thanks very much for the reply. Sorry about your current troubles. Yes, I am on Windows 8.1. My son upgraded recently from Win 7 to 10 and he didn't report a problem so I was curious about this. He may have already had an MS account.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                You trust Microsoft that much? :laugh: I took a AOMEI disk image of the whole HDD the night before the upgrade just to be sure I could revert to exactly what I had, so if I do "Go back" that's the path I'll take. But at the moment, I'm trying to struggle through and get to like this steaming pile of cow manure new operating system, if only because I know there will be quite a few people who I'll have to support who'll be using it and I don't want to have to tell them "sod off, you're on your own with that!" But it is making itself extremely difficult to like: two whole days wasted so far, and yet to find anything I prefer compared to Win 7. Better than Win 8, but that's like saying I prefer my excrement polished to a mirror finish...

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                pkfox
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                Griff , have you got the paid version of AOMEI ?

                We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                • pkfoxP pkfox

                  Griff , have you got the paid version of AOMEI ?

                  We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  Nope, just the free "Standard 2.8" - works fine so far. I might even upgrade it to 3.1 once I'm happy with the PC. :-D

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    I can't do any work. Why not, you ask? Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders. I can't even back up, because it has decided that my whole NAS is read only as well. Did Apple send some of it's developers behind enemy lines to produce this misbegotten pile of stupidity, or does MS have a death wish - because I notice via Google that I'm not the only one this is happening to. I am so tempted to reload my last disk image - this is just wasting my time.

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    Kevin Marois
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                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    Because every file on my HDD is read only. And when I change them, it changes them back. So I take full control of my HDD. No I don't, it can't enumerate all the folders.

                    Are you kidding?? Seriously? Why would anyone want to "upgrade" to this steaming pile if exrecement?? I really don't see the fascination to rush to install Win10. You know, you brought this on yourself. You HAD to know this sort of thing would happen..

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Not sure - I think it has to do with it insisting I log in via my MS account, rather than the "Griff" account I used on Win7 (with a blank password - it no longer works in Win10, it seems to have set a password and won;t tell me what it is, so I have to use the MS account I was signed in to via VS instead). It's fixable, but it's just a PITA. I suspect it's going to really annoy non-technical users (i.e. most of 'em!) I dunno - are you using Win7 or Win 8.x at the moment? I suspect that Win8 users will work because they needed a linked MS account to set up in the first place. But I don't think Win10 has the "Wow" factor MS needed. :sigh:

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      9082365
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                      It didn't insist. The option to sign in using a local account (ie. the one you had before) was there ... I know ... that's the way I did it ... if you went through the custom install and opted out of the information exchange thingies and aren't using Cortana.

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                      • 9 9082365

                        It didn't insist. The option to sign in using a local account (ie. the one you had before) was there ... I know ... that's the way I did it ... if you went through the custom install and opted out of the information exchange thingies and aren't using Cortana.

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        That's what I did. Followed the privacy suggestions here: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.single.html[^]

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Nope, just the free "Standard 2.8" - works fine so far. I might even upgrade it to 3.1 once I'm happy with the PC. :-D

                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                          pkfox
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                          Ok thanks, where do you store the images ?

                          We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                          • pkfoxP pkfox

                            Ok thanks, where do you store the images ?

                            We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                            OriginalGriff
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                            On a external USB HDD: I have a bunch of 2TB / 4TB Seagate drives (Amazon[^] & Amazon[^]) which AOMEI will store multiple images on (unlike MS which overwrites each time) My 1TB PC HDD is partitioned 50/50 Apps and Data, and the whole thing compresses to around 350GB per image. (Being a backup freak, I also have images on my NAS, thumb drives, and anywhere else I can safely hide them! :laugh: )

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              On a external USB HDD: I have a bunch of 2TB / 4TB Seagate drives (Amazon[^] & Amazon[^]) which AOMEI will store multiple images on (unlike MS which overwrites each time) My 1TB PC HDD is partitioned 50/50 Apps and Data, and the whole thing compresses to around 350GB per image. (Being a backup freak, I also have images on my NAS, thumb drives, and anywhere else I can safely hide them! :laugh: )

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                              pkfox
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                              Ok thanks Griff, one more question - what type of backup should I use to take a snapshot of the entire computer ? I'm a little unsure of the menu options

                              We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                              • pkfoxP pkfox

                                Ok thanks Griff, one more question - what type of backup should I use to take a snapshot of the entire computer ? I'm a little unsure of the menu options

                                We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                Start here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tipdoprw6kwct5h/1%20Menu.jpg?dl=0[^] Then select https://www.dropbox.com/s/5m72ho5jdszkugd/2%20Select.jpg?dl=0[^] Click here https://www.dropbox.com/s/o3y6f4esw1t3d6z/3%20Click.jpg?dl=0[^] Click "Add" https://www.dropbox.com/s/gzom7ysv9e6cnai/4%20Add.jpg?dl=0[^] Select the destination https://www.dropbox.com/s/itretl9fy0qtqf4/5%20Destination.jpg?dl=0[^] And start the backup https://www.dropbox.com/s/qutdpljc27d02dz/6%20Start.jpg?dl=0[^] It'll take a while, depending on how fast you media is (A thumb drive will take all night as they tend to be slow to write). Then make a recovery disk via Utilities...Create Bootable Media. The things I like about this is that you can store more than one backup, and you can mount backups as drives to recover individual files, as well as restoring them as an absolute disk image.

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Start here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tipdoprw6kwct5h/1%20Menu.jpg?dl=0[^] Then select https://www.dropbox.com/s/5m72ho5jdszkugd/2%20Select.jpg?dl=0[^] Click here https://www.dropbox.com/s/o3y6f4esw1t3d6z/3%20Click.jpg?dl=0[^] Click "Add" https://www.dropbox.com/s/gzom7ysv9e6cnai/4%20Add.jpg?dl=0[^] Select the destination https://www.dropbox.com/s/itretl9fy0qtqf4/5%20Destination.jpg?dl=0[^] And start the backup https://www.dropbox.com/s/qutdpljc27d02dz/6%20Start.jpg?dl=0[^] It'll take a while, depending on how fast you media is (A thumb drive will take all night as they tend to be slow to write). Then make a recovery disk via Utilities...Create Bootable Media. The things I like about this is that you can store more than one backup, and you can mount backups as drives to recover individual files, as well as restoring them as an absolute disk image.

                                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                  pkfox
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                                  Cheers Griff - how do you mount a drive to recover a file ?

                                  We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                    Cheers Griff - how do you mount a drive to recover a file ?

                                    We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                    Easy: Utilities: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbvjycdx7r3kj4x/1%20Utilities.jpg?dl=0[^] Select folder holding backup points: https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4kcj09wnnm01p5/2%20Select%20folder.jpg?dl=0[^] Select the back point: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0q1vtdhjas4srbe/3%20Select%20backup.jpg?dl=0[^] Select the partition(s) and the drive letter(s) you want: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1usk1yllihsa2l6/4%20Select%20partition.jpg?dl=0[^] And it tells you how to dismount it as well: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lmjw7gd4i3j154p/5%20done.jpg?dl=0[^] Now the backup just appears as a normal disk, so you can select any files you want. If you want to torch the disk (or recreate it on a spare disk the same size) you just do a normal "restore" operation and it recreates all the partitions, MBR, and suchlike. I like this thing - it's pretty easy to use, and it seems to work well.

                                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      Easy: Utilities: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbvjycdx7r3kj4x/1%20Utilities.jpg?dl=0[^] Select folder holding backup points: https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4kcj09wnnm01p5/2%20Select%20folder.jpg?dl=0[^] Select the back point: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0q1vtdhjas4srbe/3%20Select%20backup.jpg?dl=0[^] Select the partition(s) and the drive letter(s) you want: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1usk1yllihsa2l6/4%20Select%20partition.jpg?dl=0[^] And it tells you how to dismount it as well: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lmjw7gd4i3j154p/5%20done.jpg?dl=0[^] Now the backup just appears as a normal disk, so you can select any files you want. If you want to torch the disk (or recreate it on a spare disk the same size) you just do a normal "restore" operation and it recreates all the partitions, MBR, and suchlike. I like this thing - it's pretty easy to use, and it seems to work well.

                                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                      pkfox
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                                      Impressive thanks very much for your time

                                      We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                        Impressive thanks very much for your time

                                        We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                        OriginalGriff
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                                        You're welcome!

                                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Start here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tipdoprw6kwct5h/1%20Menu.jpg?dl=0[^] Then select https://www.dropbox.com/s/5m72ho5jdszkugd/2%20Select.jpg?dl=0[^] Click here https://www.dropbox.com/s/o3y6f4esw1t3d6z/3%20Click.jpg?dl=0[^] Click "Add" https://www.dropbox.com/s/gzom7ysv9e6cnai/4%20Add.jpg?dl=0[^] Select the destination https://www.dropbox.com/s/itretl9fy0qtqf4/5%20Destination.jpg?dl=0[^] And start the backup https://www.dropbox.com/s/qutdpljc27d02dz/6%20Start.jpg?dl=0[^] It'll take a while, depending on how fast you media is (A thumb drive will take all night as they tend to be slow to write). Then make a recovery disk via Utilities...Create Bootable Media. The things I like about this is that you can store more than one backup, and you can mount backups as drives to recover individual files, as well as restoring them as an absolute disk image.

                                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                          pkfox
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                                          Hi Griff, I followed your instructions and created a disk image but am having problems creating a bootable media,I'm trying to use a usb stick as the media and it fails at the formatting boot part ( that was trying to create a Windows PE one ) In the end having tried several usb sticks I tried a Linux one and that worked in as much as it boots but I can't see a way to select the path to my backup image ( it's on my LAN ) I've tried typing the UNC path but "lots of nothing happened" any ideas ? I suppose I should start a thread on this somewhere else ?

                                          We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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