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is math discovered or invented?

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  • S Stefto

    Discovered, Noone is sadistic enough to invent this :laugh:

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    Bilgehan Berberoglu
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    You're right :laugh: :laugh:

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    • A amagitech

      What is your opinion

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      Lost User
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      Math is a description tool, like a language it is invented.

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      • A amagitech

        What is your opinion

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        peterchen
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        According to Plato, discovered. [^]

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        • H HobbyProggy

          Ron Anders wrote:

          by the One True Living God.

          There is no such thing :)

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          peterchen
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          Yes, of course - but she still put it there!

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            There is, I am it.

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            HobbyProggy
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            Heretic XD

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            • A amagitech

              What is your opinion

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              Duncan Edwards Jones
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              All human endeavours (language, culture, maths, science) are abstractions and therefore the level of abstraction constitutes invention. Only reality is real.....man. :omg:

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              • J Johnny J

                You mean Munchies[^]? :confused:

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                How often did you have him lying flat in front of your door? :)

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                • A amagitech

                  What is your opinion

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                  Muharrem B. wrote:

                  What is your opinion

                  That it is Maths.

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                  • A amagitech

                    What is your opinion

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Both. Marc

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                      Muharrem B. wrote:

                      What is your opinion

                      That it is Maths.

                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                      Duncan Edwards Jones
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                      ..although the question should probably take the past tense.

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                      • A amagitech

                        What is your opinion

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                        W Balboos GHB
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                        Mathematics must include all of its branches and that would include arithmetic. So say, multiple objects existed and were observed. That, however, doesn't make mathematics a discovery. It is the association of multiple objects as a group, and making that initial "one and one are different than one" ( . . . and we'll so note it . . . ) that is where mathematics begins. This is conceptual - and thus - an invention. Two rocks sitting near one another does not have to be thought of as two rocks. Why not simply "A rock" and "A rock" ? That still works. At the same time, they may not be near - but one could still conceive of them as two items that are in some (conceived!) category and then associated. Our mathematics is a description of observations - and not necessarily the only way one could describe the universe.

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                        • A amagitech

                          What is your opinion

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                          • A amagitech

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                            Power Puff Boy
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                            Watch this: [^] I would say: Math is.

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                            • A amagitech

                              What is your opinion

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                              Samira Radwan
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                              Discovered :) 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature. from PI[^]

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                              • J jeron1

                                I wonder who discovered hatred?

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                                Ron Anders
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                                Satan

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                                  Ron Anders wrote:

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                                  There is no such thing :)

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                                  Ron Anders
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                                  Is so. I know him personally. :-)

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                                  • J Johnny J

                                    I normally use a hammer... :doh:

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                                    Simon_Whale
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                                    We know that's how you get Debbie back to yours for the evening, Now what about problem solving :laugh:

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                                    • R Ron Anders

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                                      jeron1
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                                      What does Celine Dion have to do with this? :)

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                                      • A amagitech

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                                        BillWoodruff
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                                        Mathematics is a cognitive virus which jumped from fleas to early hunter-gatherer hominids in the late Paleolithic, driving said hominids to evolve to be able to count up to twenty (ten fingers, ten toes) quickly. The proto-human hosts reached a modus vivendi with the virus since such counting was useful when figuring out who to kill next, or, who to enslave next. Since it is an insatiable virus, it soon turned its early homo sapiens hosts into shepherds and farmers where there were more things to count (goats, cattle, sheep, baskets, sheaves, jars). At this late stage of human co-habitation with Mathematics virii, it is safe to say it is as much an archaic endosymbiotic part of our nervous-system as mitochondrial DNA (once single-celled organisms "captured" by Eukaryotas) is a part of our cellular structure. The rare human being in modern times who is able to free themselves of the Mathematics virus completely is usually considered an idiot, or insane, or becomes the founder of a new religion. Their lives are short, and their death often violent. Mathematics appears able to mobilize its hosts into insane clown posses which collectively attack external threats; the exact mechanism by which this social-engineering occurs is not clearly understood, probably because those who reach the point where they could explain it are murdered, or "disappeared," or sent to mental asylums. Cantor and Godel are good examples of Mathematics defending itself by directing the minds of those rare geniuses who realize what Mathematics actually is into the black-hole of considering the relative magnitude (ordinality, "Aleph") of infinities. Both, these brave souls ended their lives in mental illness, haunted by fears of being poisoned. Well, what can you say about something that you can't imagine yourself, or the world, without ? Without Mathematics we would be ... what ? ... as happy as dogs? cheers, Bill

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                                        • P peterchen

                                          According to Plato, discovered. [^]

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Well. You can use a language (math is a language) to describe your breakfast, you can use it to write a star wars novel. Both descriptions are abstractions of something that existed or not. However they are both abstractions. You can of course discover star wars, but that is not what is meant here I think.

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