Human Machine relationship
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Sorry, but I strongly believed I had to go home. :-)
RyanDev wrote:
All your seeing is the effect of the soul on the physical parts. Similar to watching a mechanical device move yet you can't see (at least not with your eye) the electrons that are doing the actual work.
No. Electrons can't do anything at all if The Force is not with you. And when The Force is with you then you can just as well turn off the targeting computer and blow up a Death Star. Just fire when the voices in your head tell you trust them and then simply to do so. :-D Seriously, science is all about learning about previously unknown phenomena. The process usually is to observe something that cannot be explained with existing knowledge, gathering more information and then attempting to use your information and logic to describe what you are looking for. This theory then enables you to make predictions which can be tested and then may confirm or falsify your theory. Never ever has the belief in magic led to any knowledge so far. Anyway, I really hope you are just trying to keep a good argument going. If I were religious, I would prefer to praise god for what he really did.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.CDP1802 wrote:
Seriously, science is all about learning about previously unknown phenomena. The process usually is to observe something that cannot be explained with existing knowledge, gathering more information and then attempting to use your information and logic to describe what you are looking for. This theory then enables you to make predictions which can be tested and then may confirm or falsify your theory. Never ever has the belief in magic led to any knowledge so far.
Agreed. So?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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CDP1802 wrote:
Seriously, science is all about learning about previously unknown phenomena. The process usually is to observe something that cannot be explained with existing knowledge, gathering more information and then attempting to use your information and logic to describe what you are looking for. This theory then enables you to make predictions which can be tested and then may confirm or falsify your theory. Never ever has the belief in magic led to any knowledge so far.
Agreed. So?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
So, what leads you to the conclusion that a soul is essential for life. What observations led you to believe that only this describes what is needed to explain your observations? What properties does it have? Where is the difference between a biochemical reacion in a cell or the same reaction in a test tube? In extension, how does this soul enable cells to perform in a way that they become components of an intelligent system? Why do you think that it's absolutely impossible to make logical gates which have the same properties? Lots of questions and without some answers I can easily come up with countless other 'explanations' which actually explain nothing at all.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
So, what leads you to the conclusion that a soul is essential for life. What observations led you to believe that only this describes what is needed to explain your observations? What properties does it have? Where is the difference between a biochemical reacion in a cell or the same reaction in a test tube? In extension, how does this soul enable cells to perform in a way that they become components of an intelligent system? Why do you think that it's absolutely impossible to make logical gates which have the same properties? Lots of questions and without some answers I can easily come up with countless other 'explanations' which actually explain nothing at all.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
CDP1802 wrote:
So, what leads you to the conclusion that a soul is essential for life.
Because without one you die. :-\
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
And how do we test this claim?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
And how do we test this claim?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
CDP1802 wrote:
And how do we test this claim?
Remove one. I suggest you test on someone else.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Again, how exactly can this be done? You have not yet given any answers, only yet another claim. I have another theory. Living cells are immortal. The presence of a soul is not needed. Instead, parasitic evil spirits cause them to age and eventually die. Now what?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
Again, how exactly can this be done? You have not yet given any answers, only yet another claim. I have another theory. Living cells are immortal. The presence of a soul is not needed. Instead, parasitic evil spirits cause them to age and eventually die. Now what?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.CDP1802 wrote:
Again, how exactly can this be done? You have not yet given any answers, only yet another claim.
As I already stated, I can't go into detail here in the Lounge (no talk of God) or I'm sure those who love to mark as abusive will go off on me. I'll gladly go into it in the Soapbox if you care enough.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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CDP1802 wrote:
Again, how exactly can this be done? You have not yet given any answers, only yet another claim.
As I already stated, I can't go into detail here in the Lounge (no talk of God) or I'm sure those who love to mark as abusive will go off on me. I'll gladly go into it in the Soapbox if you care enough.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
No need. I have seen enough people who, in a way, have sold their souls and don't want to live like them in my own little hell full of anger and fear. A little rational thinking is my defense against them.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
No need. I have seen enough people who, in a way, have sold their souls and don't want to live like them in my own little hell full of anger and fear. A little rational thinking is my defense against them.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
It sounds like you're trying to be offensive. Since you know absolutely nothing about me, I'll let it pass.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Why should I do that? Sorry if it looked that way. It was getting late and I obviously jumpeed to the last chapter a little too quickly. What I really meant to say is that you are probably right that this is not the right place for such a discussion. Religion can be a dangerous topic. Preachers and missionaries will not have much fun with me, simply because I refuse to blindly repeat anything they say, no matter how illogical it may be. Some 'holy men' don't react kindly or understandingly when someone asks too many questions. To keep the peace, I do not doubt god, but I doubt the motives of many who claim to speak in his name. The other side are people who you might call 'evil'. While I never will understand why some people apparently can't live without making others lives miserable, I still don't need a devil as explanation. It is their own fear, anger and weakness. Those things are not rational, just as the results usually are destructive and irrational. Those are the people I would say who have lost their souls, of course not literally.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns. -
Why should I do that? Sorry if it looked that way. It was getting late and I obviously jumpeed to the last chapter a little too quickly. What I really meant to say is that you are probably right that this is not the right place for such a discussion. Religion can be a dangerous topic. Preachers and missionaries will not have much fun with me, simply because I refuse to blindly repeat anything they say, no matter how illogical it may be. Some 'holy men' don't react kindly or understandingly when someone asks too many questions. To keep the peace, I do not doubt god, but I doubt the motives of many who claim to speak in his name. The other side are people who you might call 'evil'. While I never will understand why some people apparently can't live without making others lives miserable, I still don't need a devil as explanation. It is their own fear, anger and weakness. Those things are not rational, just as the results usually are destructive and irrational. Those are the people I would say who have lost their souls, of course not literally.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.