Why do everyone uses antivirus ?
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Muharrem B. wrote:
Do you use it?
No, haven't used a scanner in 10 years. Haven't had a virus either.
Muharrem B. wrote:
Does it work?
If you are the type that runs code without knowing what it does, open executables, then yes, it works "most of the time". For companies it is different; they'll need to have one. Especially large companies would come under fire if they lost all their data over an old and outdated virus. And in large companies there is always a manager that opens the executable. Always.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Haven't had a virus either.
As far as you know. :-\
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Exactly which company are you referring to? I get 5 results when filtering by "Computer Software" and none of them seem to be antivirus companies... :doh:
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Haven't had a virus either.
As far as you know. :-\
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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http://fortune.com/100-fastest-growing-companies/[^] An antivirus company is the fastest growing company about computer programming. I don't use antivirus last 4 year. Do you use it? Does it work?
Because most people aren't like us; they believe the "internets" to be safe. They will open spam messages, they will look at naughty or cat pictures on the internet, they will run programs received by emails to make they computer safer without thinking about it.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I use AV because it works. Unless you have a totally left-field OS which is not targeted by hackers, spammers and phishers, you are a fool not to protect your data. Every popular OS - Apple, *ix Win* - is being targeted and not having a decent defense in place will result in a breach. If you're lucky you'll lose all your data, if you're not then it'll be all your money as well. Go on, choose.
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If you need to scan to see whether something is infected, you are already behind the curve and at risk. Update your hostsfile, check the startup folder, turn on UAC and DEP..
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
there is no process running without my knowledge
As far as we know our computer has never had an undetected error! :laugh:
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
there is no process running without my knowledge
As far as we know our computer has never had an undetected error! :laugh:
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Not the same; You cannot guarantee no one is in the house if you don't know what windows are open, which doors are locked - but if you close all, then someone would have to tear down a wall to get in there. :)
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http://fortune.com/100-fastest-growing-companies/[^] An antivirus company is the fastest growing company about computer programming. I don't use antivirus last 4 year. Do you use it? Does it work?
No, except once a year to do a scan just in case (but it never finds anything significant). Apart from that time I don't even have it installed, because it's AV is a sneaky bastard itself, worming itself where it shouldn't go and eating up your resources. Meanwhile my dad has AV and still gets viruses that I have to remove manually. Lame old viruses that should be trivial for any AV, not the newest NSA-grade malware. So if it works then evidently it only works a bit.
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Not the same; You cannot guarantee no one is in the house if you don't know what windows are open, which doors are locked - but if you close all, then someone would have to tear down a wall to get in there. :)
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There's this movie, I forgot which one, but these guys are trying to rob a bank or something. The crooks use your reasoning so their solution, make sure they're already inside when all doors and windows get locked. The next morning, when everything opens up, they simply walk out with the loot :)
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http://fortune.com/100-fastest-growing-companies/[^] An antivirus company is the fastest growing company about computer programming. I don't use antivirus last 4 year. Do you use it? Does it work?
Two times in my life I did not use an antivirus. The only two times I got virusses in my life. First time I had a 640 Kbps ADSL (the fastest connection a home user could have in 2004 here), opened WinMX (first time user of any P2P) and in 5 minutes I had a dialer on my pc. Way to go! Reset and restore. Second time I was smarter, 2010, with a GPRS pen-drive at 32 kbps, I had to visit ONE trusted site, three pages: first one to open gamefaqs, second the search results, third the walkthrough: got virus. That PC was never connected to the Internet. So yes, I keep a licensed antivirus at all times. The other experiences of virusses I had were related to the Pc of my family, often with freeware antivirus or outright cracked ones.
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No, except once a year to do a scan just in case (but it never finds anything significant). Apart from that time I don't even have it installed, because it's AV is a sneaky bastard itself, worming itself where it shouldn't go and eating up your resources. Meanwhile my dad has AV and still gets viruses that I have to remove manually. Lame old viruses that should be trivial for any AV, not the newest NSA-grade malware. So if it works then evidently it only works a bit.
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There's this movie, I forgot which one, but these guys are trying to rob a bank or something. The crooks use your reasoning so their solution, make sure they're already inside when all doors and windows get locked. The next morning, when everything opens up, they simply walk out with the loot :)
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
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Regards, Sander
The equivalent thereof would be to have my installation medium infected; something rather uncommon. Yes, we've had an original Win95-CD that was infected once - but the chance of an infection is kinda "low"; at that point a scanner hardly helps, there is never a 100% guarantee :)
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If you need to scan to see whether something is infected, you are already behind the curve and at risk. Update your hostsfile, check the startup folder, turn on UAC and DEP..
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My AV is set to scan every morning at 2 am and it's set to automatically remove threats.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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The equivalent thereof would be to have my installation medium infected; something rather uncommon. Yes, we've had an original Win95-CD that was infected once - but the chance of an infection is kinda "low"; at that point a scanner hardly helps, there is never a 100% guarantee :)
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
there is never a 100% guarantee
This is the life we chose, the life we lead. And there is only one guarantee: none of us will see heaven their computer completely free of unwanted shit :laugh:
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Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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http://fortune.com/100-fastest-growing-companies/[^] An antivirus company is the fastest growing company about computer programming. I don't use antivirus last 4 year. Do you use it? Does it work?
Two words - Minecraft Mods. My darling children do insist on downloading them and installing them - complete with all the viruses, browser hijackers, etc, that they come with. That's why their machines have AV software and Adware apps running.
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If you need to scan to see whether something is infected, you are already behind the curve and at risk. Update your hostsfile, check the startup folder, turn on UAC and DEP..
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Wrong, the AV and Firewall are there in addition to managing access into [and out of] the machine. With kids it is easier to have the AV nannying in the background then it is to keep cleaning the shyte off their machines.
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Not the same; You cannot guarantee no one is in the house if you don't know what windows are open, which doors are locked - but if you close all, then someone would have to tear down a wall to get in there. :)
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If you need to scan to see whether something is infected, you are already behind the curve and at risk. Update your hostsfile, check the startup folder, turn on UAC and DEP..
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
f you need to scan to see whether something is infected, you are already behind the curve and at risk.
Show me someone who claims they aren't behind the curve and I'll show you an up and coming victim.. :laugh: There isn't one guy on the planet who can plan today against every current and future threat out there. We pass this responsibility onto other teams (anti-virus software companies) so that we can get on with our day-to-day jobs.
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My AV is set to scan every morning at 2 am and it's set to automatically remove threats.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
