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    Dan Neely
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    Mozilla is finally planning[^] to release a 64bit build for Windows in early November.:cool: Flash is still too widely used for video to avoid. :sigh: I know a few years ago the crappy state of Flash-Win-x64 was on of the reasons the 64 bit browser was backburnered. :doh: So the question is, will I have trouble running flash in FF42-x64.:confused:

    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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      Mozilla is finally planning[^] to release a 64bit build for Windows in early November.:cool: Flash is still too widely used for video to avoid. :sigh: I know a few years ago the crappy state of Flash-Win-x64 was on of the reasons the 64 bit browser was backburnered. :doh: So the question is, will I have trouble running flash in FF42-x64.:confused:

      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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      Chris Maunder
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      The question is: why do you need flash? (A serious question: it's been a while since I've actually used a site that relied on flash)

      cheers Chris Maunder

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        The question is: why do you need flash? (A serious question: it's been a while since I've actually used a site that relied on flash)

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        Dan Neely
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        Because every second site that has a video I'm interested in watching insists on serving my desktop browser a flash video instead of html5. X| I don't know if their PHBs are trying to pretend mobile doesn't exist at all; or just that all desktop users will have flash so always serve that up for them. Either way, they're still too common for me to exile flash to an ancillary browser. :sigh:

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          The question is: why do you need flash? (A serious question: it's been a while since I've actually used a site that relied on flash)

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          Or differently put: Flash is a reason to not use a site.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            Because every second site that has a video I'm interested in watching insists on serving my desktop browser a flash video instead of html5. X| I don't know if their PHBs are trying to pretend mobile doesn't exist at all; or just that all desktop users will have flash so always serve that up for them. Either way, they're still too common for me to exile flash to an ancillary browser. :sigh:

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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            Chris Maunder
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            Ah. Right.

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            • D Dan Neely

              Mozilla is finally planning[^] to release a 64bit build for Windows in early November.:cool: Flash is still too widely used for video to avoid. :sigh: I know a few years ago the crappy state of Flash-Win-x64 was on of the reasons the 64 bit browser was backburnered. :doh: So the question is, will I have trouble running flash in FF42-x64.:confused:

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              Marco Bertschi
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              Dan Neely wrote:

              will I have trouble running flash

              Yes.

              "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                Or differently put: Flash is a reason to not use a site.

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                Dan Neely
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                I would if I could. Sadly flash video is still to ubiquitous to for me to do so.

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  The question is: why do you need flash? (A serious question: it's been a while since I've actually used a site that relied on flash)

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Hmmm. Interesting, since I've assumed that the plug-in that Chrome keeps warning me about was Flash. Almost every site I visit produces the warning that it uses a plug-in that will soon be unsupported. I wonder what it is?

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Hmmm. Interesting, since I've assumed that the plug-in that Chrome keeps warning me about was Flash. Almost every site I visit produces the warning that it uses a plug-in that will soon be unsupported. I wonder what it is?

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    It probably is Flash; it's the only plugin left with non-trivial general website usage (assuming you (or worse your ISP) don't have crapware trying to inject sliverblight/quicktime ads into every page anyhow). Google banned flash ads[^] at the start of the month. If for some reason you were still using the Netscape Plugin API[^] version of flash instead of the built in one, they support for it off on Tuesday too. Not being a Chrome user, that'd be my first guess; but I wouldn't put it past Google to blight all pages with a nag, even if using their blessed version of the plugin.

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      I would if I could. Sadly flash video is still to ubiquitous to for me to do so.

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      Perhaps you should stop viewing so much pr0n. ;P

                      Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                        Or differently put: Flash is a reason to not use a site.

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I've banned flash

                        Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                          Perhaps you should stop viewing so much pr0n. ;P

                          Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                          Dan Neely
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                          ~2/3rds of the offending sites are local news (tv or newspaper) sites. If they'd get their stuff together I might actually get to the point where I could exile flash to an auxiliary browser.

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            ~2/3rds of the offending sites are local news (tv or newspaper) sites. If they'd get their stuff together I might actually get to the point where I could exile flash to an auxiliary browser.

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            True. A local news site where I live only just recently stopped using flash.

                            Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                              True. A local news site where I live only just recently stopped using flash.

                              Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                              Dan Neely
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                              At least for the tv stations I can hope that at some point in the medium term future someone in the ABC/CBS/FOX/NBC headquarters will force their affiliates to upgrade; that'd cut somewhere around a third of my residual flash use.

                              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                At least for the tv stations I can hope that at some point in the medium term future someone in the ABC/CBS/FOX/NBC headquarters will force their affiliates to upgrade; that'd cut somewhere around a third of my residual flash use.

                                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                One can hope. But event some of their postings still use flash. Go figure.

                                Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                  The question is: why do you need flash? (A serious question: it's been a while since I've actually used a site that relied on flash)

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  JohnLBevan
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                                  I heard that Flash would be disabled by default, but auto-enabled when you go to Privacy mode...

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                                    Mozilla is finally planning[^] to release a 64bit build for Windows in early November.:cool: Flash is still too widely used for video to avoid. :sigh: I know a few years ago the crappy state of Flash-Win-x64 was on of the reasons the 64 bit browser was backburnered. :doh: So the question is, will I have trouble running flash in FF42-x64.:confused:

                                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                    Mike Diack
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                                    Flash 19 64 bit works well with 64 bit Firefox. I'm running 64 bit Firefox 40.0.02 with Flash 19.0.0.162 (a beta build) and it works well for video etc (it runs under the control of plugin-container.exe). It's been stable for me for months now on Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10 systems.

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                                      Flash 19 64 bit works well with 64 bit Firefox. I'm running 64 bit Firefox 40.0.02 with Flash 19.0.0.162 (a beta build) and it works well for video etc (it runs under the control of plugin-container.exe). It's been stable for me for months now on Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10 systems.

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      Good to hear. I'll be running it on 8.1 or 10 depending on when I get around to upgrading it. Maybe 7 if I decide to force a manual update at work. (The geniuses block regular updates of FF for 'compatibility' reasons but ignore the bug fix only LTS builds; so I'm generally out of date and vulnerable to being pwned there. Their funeral, not mine.)

                                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                        Dan Neely wrote:

                                        will I have trouble running flash

                                        Yes.

                                        "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        Care to elaborate? Mike Diack is running it without any issues.

                                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                          Care to elaborate? Mike Diack is running it without any issues.

                                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                          Marco Bertschi
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                                          I missed the joke icon. I meant troubles as in "Updates (almost) constantly nagging you, not mentioning the security holes".

                                          "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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