Best place to be a programmer..?
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Really? It always comes across as the opposite :confused:
Slacker007 wrote:
"Won't do, not my job" attitude
We have that here too.. :)
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
It always comes across as the opposite
Not to get too political, but it is really bad here now, on many levels. Looks are deceiving. :sigh:
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I resent this part "south is in the third world when it comes to IT." - true, Croatia isn't really south , but south-east, but we're still tech leaders (at least for my bank group) which includes such paragons of advanced technology as italy and austria :) And there are more then 1 successful firms coming from here with million+ income thanks to games and apps in stores. Quite good for mere 4 million people (as is said for New Zealand) Original poster: people speak passable english here and we're tourist country with good weather :)
Even northern Europe is nothing compared to the UK. IT there is a big industry, there are companies everywhere. But its good Croatia is doing well. I haven't seen any contracts over there though. Do you do much windows/linux kernel stuff?
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Vancouver might be better
Arghh, slip of the brain, I'd meant to write Vancouver :doh:
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
Supposedly one of the most beautiful cities/settings with skiing near by.
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Even northern Europe is nothing compared to the UK. IT there is a big industry, there are companies everywhere. But its good Croatia is doing well. I haven't seen any contracts over there though. Do you do much windows/linux kernel stuff?
I'm a microsoft guy, so ... no :) There is heavy recruiting for Ireland and people are leaving, going after the money. Some return complaining that money looks good on paper, but the cost of living in GB is too high :) But I have no personal experience.
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
It always comes across as the opposite
Not to get too political, but it is really bad here now, on many levels. Looks are deceiving. :sigh:
Hopefully things will turn around again? In some ways there seems to be a lost sense of direction everywhere at the moment. It's all the internet's fault, I tell ya! :)
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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I'm a microsoft guy, so ... no :) There is heavy recruiting for Ireland and people are leaving, going after the money. Some return complaining that money looks good on paper, but the cost of living in GB is too high :) But I have no personal experience.
Sinisa Hajnal wrote:
There is heavy recruiting for Ireland and people are leaving, going after the money. Some return complaining that money looks good on paper, but the cost of living in GB is too high
I'm not surprised they find the cost of living high if they're living in GB and working in Ireland. They should try living in the same country as they work, or at least on the same island.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I'm a microsoft guy, so ... no :) There is heavy recruiting for Ireland and people are leaving, going after the money. Some return complaining that money looks good on paper, but the cost of living in GB is too high :) But I have no personal experience.
IT is big in Ireland too, but its a bit of a dump with appalling weather.
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Sinisa Hajnal wrote:
There is heavy recruiting for Ireland and people are leaving, going after the money. Some return complaining that money looks good on paper, but the cost of living in GB is too high
I'm not surprised they find the cost of living high if they're living in GB and working in Ireland. They should try living in the same country as they work, or at least on the same island.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
Holyhead to Dub? About 40 mins isn't it? :)
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Holyhead to Dub? About 40 mins isn't it? :)
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After yet another dismal British summer (link[^]), I've been thinking about whether to have a go at working abroad (which includes moving the family out with me :omg:). I'm considering the US, Canada and New Zealand (Australia would be too hot for my delicate British nature), but thought I'd ask people from those parts what it's really like to work in software and what the general lifestyles are like? Where are the best regions to find work and nice places to live? If there are any Brits that have moved already, how do things compare with the UK? It's difficult to get a realistic view from the internet (does that surprise anyone?) - it's either everywhere abroad is awful, or everywhere abroad is paradise - so I thought I'd ask here :)
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
We moved from South Africa to the US. We looked at Australia and Canada as well but decided on the US since the country is diverse and chances are high that you'll eventually find somewhere that is a good fit. We avoided California because it seems that, for the most part, most employers expect you to work long hours. They provide great benefits and the pay is good. They have a high turn-over rate. I was surprised to find out recently that there is no restraint of trade in certain areas and so it is easy to move onto a different job in the same area. We lived in Florida for a while when I went to University there. The weather is great, there are a lot of outdoor things to do. I found that, in general, the people that you meet on the street not to be super-friendly, but they were friendly enough. As for prospects, 5 years ago I was not able to find any programming work at a place that was prepared to help with a work visa. We're now in Kansas and the work environment is great - a family-comes-first sort of place that also happens to do some fun things. The weather can get quite cold in the winter and hot in the summer.
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We pay about the same here for gas and electric combined. Do you use electric for heating, or is there a separate bill for that?
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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After yet another dismal British summer (link[^]), I've been thinking about whether to have a go at working abroad (which includes moving the family out with me :omg:). I'm considering the US, Canada and New Zealand (Australia would be too hot for my delicate British nature), but thought I'd ask people from those parts what it's really like to work in software and what the general lifestyles are like? Where are the best regions to find work and nice places to live? If there are any Brits that have moved already, how do things compare with the UK? It's difficult to get a realistic view from the internet (does that surprise anyone?) - it's either everywhere abroad is awful, or everywhere abroad is paradise - so I thought I'd ask here :)
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
If outdoors is your penchant then forget the tropics, stick to the temperate zones. Coming from a western culture you are going to struggle with anything Asian unless you like that sort of thing. You are also not going to enjoy a 3rd world economy. There, just removed 60% of the planet for you. You need to assess the employment possibilities REALLY carefully, example my son in law just spent 9 months out of work in Sydney trying to get an IT job in Sydney. MM also struggled to get employed there some time ago. Yet Sydney is often a preferred destination. Personally I'd like to work in Canada but them I've never been there, grass is greener I guess.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Sinisa Hajnal wrote:
There is heavy recruiting for Ireland and people are leaving, going after the money. Some return complaining that money looks good on paper, but the cost of living in GB is too high
I'm not surprised they find the cost of living high if they're living in GB and working in Ireland. They should try living in the same country as they work, or at least on the same island.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
LOL, no they lived in Croatia and now live and work in Ireland. Living in England and working in Ireland seems...well...not cost effective :)
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If outdoors is your penchant then forget the tropics, stick to the temperate zones. Coming from a western culture you are going to struggle with anything Asian unless you like that sort of thing. You are also not going to enjoy a 3rd world economy. There, just removed 60% of the planet for you. You need to assess the employment possibilities REALLY carefully, example my son in law just spent 9 months out of work in Sydney trying to get an IT job in Sydney. MM also struggled to get employed there some time ago. Yet Sydney is often a preferred destination. Personally I'd like to work in Canada but them I've never been there, grass is greener I guess.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
That's why I was thinking of avoiding Australia, but the other half likes the idea of Australia at the moment :) We've started planning a visit to see what it's like. I think Sydney probably is too much of a popular destination, so maybe Melbourne would have more potential?
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.