I looked askance at the idea of 'personal' 3d printers until ...
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer 3d printer in his home." -- Ken Olsen "I think there is a world market for maybe five computer 3d printers." -- Thomas Watson :-D
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
BillWoodruff wrote:
Here comes a future I can't imagine I need
Death??? ;) Marc
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
I can't - at the moment - see any reason why I'd want or need a current-generation 3D printer. Maybe when the printed material is a little more robust, or the print speed is in minutes rather than hours. And when colours, textures, and "flexibility" can be manufactured in instead of just "almost hard" and "nothing". But then of course, they will sell like hot cakes to the people who currently like their ladies inflatable... :laugh:
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I can't - at the moment - see any reason why I'd want or need a current-generation 3D printer. Maybe when the printed material is a little more robust, or the print speed is in minutes rather than hours. And when colours, textures, and "flexibility" can be manufactured in instead of just "almost hard" and "nothing". But then of course, they will sell like hot cakes to the people who currently like their ladies inflatable... :laugh:
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There are 3D printers for metal, but they're expensive, and don't do this:
OriginalGriff wrote:
colours, textures, and "flexibility" can be manufactured in instead of just "almost hard" and "nothing".
But they *can* make some useful things, not just abstract art and unusual lego parts.
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
Cool device, but I'm like you I'll never own one...I'm so broke I can't even pay attention!
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There are 3D printers for metal, but they're expensive, and don't do this:
OriginalGriff wrote:
colours, textures, and "flexibility" can be manufactured in instead of just "almost hard" and "nothing".
But they *can* make some useful things, not just abstract art and unusual lego parts.
To be useful as a home printer, they need to be able to make a spanner that can undo "that nut right there" (like the one between the cylinders of a Norton Commando), or something that has conductors and insulators, switches, clear patches for LEDs, small matrix keyboards... At the moment, they are a gimmick like the first home printers were (noisy, slow, poor quality output - you remember what early dot matrix jobbies were like). Their time will come - but they just aren't there yet.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
When you get your first 3D printer, and if it can print body parts, I will be your first customer. Some of these 71 year old bones are creaking so much, they should be replaced! :)
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
Looks cool, but I'm saving up for a Replicator (ala Star Trek)...
Will Rogers never met me.
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To be useful as a home printer, they need to be able to make a spanner that can undo "that nut right there" (like the one between the cylinders of a Norton Commando), or something that has conductors and insulators, switches, clear patches for LEDs, small matrix keyboards... At the moment, they are a gimmick like the first home printers were (noisy, slow, poor quality output - you remember what early dot matrix jobbies were like). Their time will come - but they just aren't there yet.
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For the average person, they are kind of a gimmick. I have worked with them personally (although it was a terrible printer from a terrible company) and I loved the thing. I was able to make quick fabrications (rather than sending them off to be physically made, which could take weeks to get it sent over). The price range is just still too much for the quality, but I can't wait till I can have one to use at home for random things.
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BillWoodruff wrote:
Here comes a future I can't imagine I need
Death??? ;) Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!
Marc Clifton wrote:
Death??? ;)
Not yet ! :wtf:
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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BillWoodruff wrote:
Here comes a future I can't imagine I need
Death??? ;) Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!
Marc Clifton wrote:
Death??? ;)
Too early to say. :wtf:
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
When they will cost substantially less and the printing materials too, I'll buy one. I'll just wait for a easy 3D designing tool (I'm no designer nor artist) because I'd like to make my own miniatrues for D&D games - the original ones suck a lot, not even one gets close to my idea of what the PG should be.
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I can't - at the moment - see any reason why I'd want or need a current-generation 3D printer. Maybe when the printed material is a little more robust, or the print speed is in minutes rather than hours. And when colours, textures, and "flexibility" can be manufactured in instead of just "almost hard" and "nothing". But then of course, they will sell like hot cakes to the people who currently like their ladies inflatable... :laugh:
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A couple of things here: 1) I can't afford its fuel consumption. 2) It'd be a bugger to park at Tescos. 3) No room for the shopping. 4) No room for Herself (which may be counted as an advantage from time to time, I'll admit). 5) There may be a few small components there that they didn't 3D print.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
BillWoodruff wrote:
So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ?
That really is compelling technology Bill but, like you, I don't see what I'd use it for. I can see how someone who is inclined toward doing crafts might want one, though. I dunno; I've got a MacBook Pro here in my lab that could use a little embellishment! Think I ought to buy in so I can pretty it up? ;-)
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I saw this video of GlowForge: [^]; company site: [^]. I think that's a very cool device ... which I will never own, but ... I recall when the first Apple LaserWriter that the public could rent time on appeared at Krishna Copy in Berkeley, California, in late 1985. The LaserWriter sold for US $2500 then, which I estimate would be equivalent to around 4K US $ today, the future full-price of the GlowForge printer Within a month, I started my first company, 'Technical Document Design,' got lucky, bagged a major client who was willing pay premium for fast turn-around graphics production. Created designs in MacDraw, printed them on the LaserWriter, had a local plate-maker/photographer turn them into 8 inch by 10 inch film transparencies for overhead-projector display. Four months later I could actually buy my own LaserWriter, but I'll never forget the days at Krishna Copy's "laser parlour" [1] where stoned-out hippies mixed with yuppies (imagine patchouli, sandalwood, with top notes of Old Spice and Bay Rum), and children, and dogs, were often found under the tables holding the LaserWriters :) So, perhaps it is the prerogative of being older (but not wiser) to yawn, and say: "Here comes a future I can't imagine I need" ? cheers, Bill [1] I take credit for coining the term "laser parlour," which actually got some usage in Cult-of-the-Mac circles and media.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
Your subject line shows your knowledge of the subject. It's a laser engraver/cutter not a 3d printer.
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Your subject line shows your knowledge of the subject. It's a laser engraver/cutter not a 3d printer.
Actually that's the nomenclature that the company itself used in the title of their video and website.
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Your subject line shows your knowledge of the subject. It's a laser engraver/cutter not a 3d printer.
Actually that's the nomenclature that the company itself used in the title of their promo video.
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I can't - at the moment - see any reason why I'd want or need a current-generation 3D printer. Maybe when the printed material is a little more robust, or the print speed is in minutes rather than hours. And when colours, textures, and "flexibility" can be manufactured in instead of just "almost hard" and "nothing". But then of course, they will sell like hot cakes to the people who currently like their ladies inflatable... :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
If you have a dual-head extruder, you can do hard and flexible printing in the same object. For an example, check out some of the stuff James at xrobots.co.uk[^] does with a combination of ABS and ninjaflex. With multi-head extruders, you can do different colors in the same print too.
