Is this too much to ask?
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:
To the best of my knowledge a business only has to provide fresh drinking water; everything else is a bonus though a smart company will provide stuff to keep you in the office.
We get water, which is the least they could seeing as how it is a water company. No tea or coffee, and all the kettles were rounded up a couple of years ago by health and safety. Used to get a basket of fruit in the office each day but that went last year as a cost saving.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
Such a short sighted policy. One of the reasons those business I worked for provided free food was because it only cost them about $2 a head to provide and they realized that people stayed in the office and did more work. For the sake of $2! Even going out to get coffee can take 10-20 minutes. Wasted time. Plus, wouldn't there be a tax deduction?
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It is pretty common for companies, at least in America, to provide free coffee to their employees via a coffee machine. I don't drink coffee so each job I have worked at I ask for free Snickers candy bars. No one has come through yet. Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally? :(
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The free coffee provided by companies is so horrible that the equivalent candy bars would need to be 100% sugar to make things fair.
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It is pretty common for companies, at least in America, to provide free coffee to their employees via a coffee machine. I don't drink coffee so each job I have worked at I ask for free Snickers candy bars. No one has come through yet. Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally? :(
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
McCarthy would have them throw out of your country with the free coffee for everyone communism thingy :laugh:
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Such a short sighted policy. One of the reasons those business I worked for provided free food was because it only cost them about $2 a head to provide and they realized that people stayed in the office and did more work. For the sake of $2! Even going out to get coffee can take 10-20 minutes. Wasted time. Plus, wouldn't there be a tax deduction?
I'm still surprised, really shouldn't be, how many people running businesses think that saving a little bit of cash is better than the happiness of the stuff. Keep your staff happy and they will work harder, work longer, care more about the company and try to look after it. Piss them off and they'll do the bare minimum they can get away with and spend the rest of their time working out how to get away with more.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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It is pretty common for companies, at least in America, to provide free coffee to their employees via a coffee machine. I don't drink coffee so each job I have worked at I ask for free Snickers candy bars. No one has come through yet. Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally? :(
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Cost of Snickers = 50 * cup of coffee. How would this be fair and equal exactly? Actually, in the UK at least, fewer employers provide free coffee than you think. Why would they provide something likely to increase the number of toilet breaks, effectively paying twice?
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Cost of Snickers = 50 * cup of coffee. How would this be fair and equal exactly? Actually, in the UK at least, fewer employers provide free coffee than you think. Why would they provide something likely to increase the number of toilet breaks, effectively paying twice?
Member 9082365 wrote:
Cost of Snickers = 50 * cup of coffee.
A cup of coffee costs $0.01? Wow, that's cheap.
Member 9082365 wrote:
How would this be fair and equal exactly?
Who said anything about being fair and equal? I want Snickers. Period.
Member 9082365 wrote:
Why would they provide something likely to increase the number of toilet breaks,
Uh, it's my understanding coffee will give you the runs. Snickers certainly won't. Snickers satisfies.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Cost of Snickers = 50 * cup of coffee. How would this be fair and equal exactly? Actually, in the UK at least, fewer employers provide free coffee than you think. Why would they provide something likely to increase the number of toilet breaks, effectively paying twice?
Who gives a rats ass about equality. A need is a need.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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It is pretty common for companies, at least in America, to provide free coffee to their employees via a coffee machine. I don't drink coffee so each job I have worked at I ask for free Snickers candy bars. No one has come through yet. Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally? :(
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally?
Do you receive compensation for you labour? That is fiar. Be grateful for anything else, however minor. Do you have clean drinking water? I work in a large city - they have treated water. I detest that taste. So, I filter it through ground coffee beans and drink that instead.
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RyanDev wrote:
Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally?
Do you receive compensation for you labour? That is fiar. Be grateful for anything else, however minor. Do you have clean drinking water? I work in a large city - they have treated water. I detest that taste. So, I filter it through ground coffee beans and drink that instead.
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It is pretty common for companies, at least in America, to provide free coffee to their employees via a coffee machine. I don't drink coffee so each job I have worked at I ask for free Snickers candy bars. No one has come through yet. Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally? :(
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
I don't drink coffee
Oh, I see, not a serious software developer, eh? :laugh:
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It is pretty common for companies, at least in America, to provide free coffee to their employees via a coffee machine. I don't drink coffee so each job I have worked at I ask for free Snickers candy bars. No one has come through yet. Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally? :(
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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dbrenth wrote:
Have you tried asking for your "share" of the coffee in cold hard cash?
No. But they won't buy back unused vacation time so I doubt they'll pay me for unused coffee.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Honestly, I bring my own damn coffee. In a big-ass thermos. I can't drink that frilly foo-foo shit they make here, and instead of belly-aching, I take action. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
instead of belly-aching, I take action.
Spoken like a true Republican (don't actually know if you are one or not, but that comment sounds like one :))
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It is pretty common for companies, at least in America, to provide free coffee to their employees via a coffee machine. I don't drink coffee so each job I have worked at I ask for free Snickers candy bars. No one has come through yet. Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally? :(
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
I've never had free coffee. My previous company was small (17 people), and we each chipped in $5 a week toward communal coffee. At the current company you either bring your own from home, or pay $2 a cup down in the cafeteria for coffee that looks and smells like reconstituted cat urine. I bring mine from home in one of these[^]. It holds an entire pot of programming fluid.
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It is pretty common for companies, at least in America, to provide free coffee to their employees via a coffee machine. I don't drink coffee so each job I have worked at I ask for free Snickers candy bars. No one has come through yet. Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally? :(
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
At a previous job I worked at coffee, tea, lemonade and soda (and of course water) were provided for, then came budget cuts and lemonade and soda were cut... Soda I understand, as it's relatively expensive, but lemonade is like less than $2,00 for a bottle that lasts one to two weeks. That's one of the reasons I got dissatisfied and ultimately quit. Yes, such a small thing can have such a huge impact.
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Honestly, I bring my own damn coffee. In a big-ass thermos. I can't drink that frilly foo-foo shit they make here, and instead of belly-aching, I take action. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Honestly, I bring my own damn coffee. In a big-ass thermos. I can't drink that frilly foo-foo shit they make here
I have yet to work at a place that they brew anything remotely close to coffee. I see people drinking it and calling it coffee but then again I also have asked waitstaff what type of beer they have and been told they carry Bud Light. Maybe I am a snob (not maybe. My coffee makes my tongue quiver with delight, while most peoples makes me want to gag). This is what I get[^]. I prefer "Icing on the Cake". It is quite delicous. If you try it, please do not bastardize it with any froofroo creamer or dare put any chemically processed goods such as sugar in it. It is fine as it is. If you do not think so, there is a Starbucks around the corner that will be happy to feed you horse urine. I do seriously recommend it though. They have a fixed price for shipping so if you buy by the bulk it gets real cheap. I typically buy 3*3lb bags and sell one to a family member that is just as hooked as I am.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Honestly, I bring my own damn coffee. In a big-ass thermos. I can't drink that frilly foo-foo shit they make here
I have yet to work at a place that they brew anything remotely close to coffee. I see people drinking it and calling it coffee but then again I also have asked waitstaff what type of beer they have and been told they carry Bud Light. Maybe I am a snob (not maybe. My coffee makes my tongue quiver with delight, while most peoples makes me want to gag). This is what I get[^]. I prefer "Icing on the Cake". It is quite delicous. If you try it, please do not bastardize it with any froofroo creamer or dare put any chemically processed goods such as sugar in it. It is fine as it is. If you do not think so, there is a Starbucks around the corner that will be happy to feed you horse urine. I do seriously recommend it though. They have a fixed price for shipping so if you buy by the bulk it gets real cheap. I typically buy 3*3lb bags and sell one to a family member that is just as hooked as I am.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
If coffee has any word other than "Coffee" in the description, I don't drink it. Adding crap to your coffee (such as milk or sugar) automatically makes it unsuitable as a gun cleaner, not to mention a decent morning beverage.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Why? I also shudder when I only think of having to drink that brew.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
I'd rather have some other sort of snack or finger food.
Let's focus on Snickers first. When we get that victory, we can expand. :-\
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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It is pretty common for companies, at least in America, to provide free coffee to their employees via a coffee machine. I don't drink coffee so each job I have worked at I ask for free Snickers candy bars. No one has come through yet. Is it too much to ask that the minority (non-coffee drinkers) be treated fairly and equally? :(
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
It's an acquired taste... Get your share! As a business owner. Huge difference. Cost of POT of coffee = 1 snickers bar. No company I know does this. I would offer you a NoDoz (Caffiene Pill), but NOT even a 5hr energy, as those are expensive. Finally, if it was a TINY office, and you were a KEY person, I would probably do something, just to show you that you are appreciated. But I would have to be careful in a real business setting! And dang you. Now I want a Snickers! :-)
