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Coding - so what's a crime and whats a misdemeanor?

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  • P Pete OHanlon

    I'm just waiting for the first person to put "uses JavaScript" or "uses VB".

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    Chris Maunder
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    Whatever happened to that whole dissing VB thing? We didn't all inadvertently grow up, did we? :sigh:

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      Chris Maunder
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      Not freeing your pointers.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Pirate Guy
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        I can't believe you missed the "u" in "Misdemeanours". From what I know, Brits love "their" grammar. :laugh: My additions: Misdemeanours: n) Unnecessary async wrappers for synchronous methods n+1) Abusing var (for C#) n+2) Under-usage of sealed (for C#) Crimes: n) Spawning unnecessary threads n+1) Using dynamic for "predictable" types (for C#) n+2) Making everything "public" with no thoughts whatsoever

        I ain't got no signature.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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          Sander Rossel
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          I can think of lots, but most has been covered. Here's two crimes that make me cringe: - Bad comments (which is most), like commenting the obvious, wrong comments, comments with bad spelling and/or grammar, etc. - Christmas tree coding. if (...) { if (...) { if { ... } else if { ... } } else if { ... } } } Something like that (add a few layers, format it nicely and it'll start to look like a Christmas tree). - Just usage of a lot of if's in general.

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          • L Lost User

            Committing commented-out code. I'm not sure whether it's a misdemeanor or crime though.

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            John Torjo
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            Depends on how you do it. I sometimes comment code with an

            #ifdef old_code
            #endif

            when completely replacing a function's implementation. This way, in the (near) future, if there are some issues with the function, I can see what I (or someone else) did in the original implementation. (note: in the long term, I do remove that code, but in short-to-medium, I leave it there) Best, John

            -- LogWizard - Log Viewing can be a joy!

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

              I heard that often :rolleyes:

              What about when you are in the middle of a long process of sql things and then you call one SP that sets a value but is not critical to anything else. If it fails, it's OK because a separate process later on will fix it anyway. What do you do then with the exception?

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              Gary Wheeler
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              Then it sounds like the process is organized poorly. If a separate process will "fix it anyway", then why does the original stored procedure need to be done at all? For that matter, if you've got processes that fix problems in earlier steps, then you've got a system built out of Band-Aid™s.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              • R Rob Philpott

                Well according to the BBC, the recent Talk Talk hack was a simple SQL injection. This from an 'internet' company. Talk Talk is criminal, sounds right to me. Committing code that doesn't compile can just be a case of not including a file, so I'd say that was a misdemeanor. TFS will kindly do this for you at its will. Personally I'd say excessive use of design patterns turning the simple into the multifaceted complex is a crime. Any type that has the word 'helper' in its title- Crime. var - Crime Indentation with spaces - Crime More than 1 type per file - Crime Inconsistent naming - Crime

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                John Torjo
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                Rob Philpott wrote:

                var - Crime

                why would that be? When using Linq, you often use var.

                Rob Philpott wrote:

                Indentation with spaces - Crime

                Where I work, we indent using spaces :) Should we be put to death? :D Best, John

                -- LogWizard - Log Viewing can be a joy!

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  I can think of lots, but most has been covered. Here's two crimes that make me cringe: - Bad comments (which is most), like commenting the obvious, wrong comments, comments with bad spelling and/or grammar, etc. - Christmas tree coding. if (...) { if (...) { if { ... } else if { ... } } else if { ... } } } Something like that (add a few layers, format it nicely and it'll start to look like a Christmas tree). - Just usage of a lot of if's in general.

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  Kevin Bewley
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                  I often get accused of commenting the obvious but I was taught to, and still do for complex algorithms/methods write what I want to do in terms of words as a comment (my intended function). Then I write the code underneath. The comments were there before the code, so it'd take me more time to delete them. Sorry - if you find it hard to just scroll past that stuff...

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                  • K Kevin Bewley

                    I often get accused of commenting the obvious but I was taught to, and still do for complex algorithms/methods write what I want to do in terms of words as a comment (my intended function). Then I write the code underneath. The comments were there before the code, so it'd take me more time to delete them. Sorry - if you find it hard to just scroll past that stuff...

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    What people forget is that each comment is a line of code that has to be as carefully written as everything else and that if the code changes so should the comments. In the end, if there's lots of bad comments, people learn to ignore comments and miss the actual good comments! I've actually written a tip about it, Write comments that matter[^], because I see so many comments that add absolutely nothing to the code. I haven't seen your code, so I don't know if you do any of the stuff I describe in the tip, but if you do I ask you, for the sake of programmers everywhere, please reconsider this bad habit of yours! :laugh:

                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      Unsorted pick lists and dropdowns. This kind of thing is easy enough for even a blank slate intern to get right.

                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. - Liber AL vel Legis 1:40, Aleister Crowley

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        englebart
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                        incorrect indentation combined with single statement control flow (no braces) Java/C/C#/C++

                        if (condition)

                        // 10 line lengthy explanation
                        //

                        originalSingleStatementForIf;
                        futureStatementThatNeedsToExecuteInAddtionTo_originalSingleStatementForIf;

                        FIX: Always use braces!

                        if (condition) {

                        // 10 line lengthy explanation
                        //

                        originalSingleStatementForIf;
                        futureStatementThatNeedsToExecuteInAddtionTo_originalSingleStatementForIf;
                        }

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                        • G Gary Wheeler

                          Then it sounds like the process is organized poorly. If a separate process will "fix it anyway", then why does the original stored procedure need to be done at all? For that matter, if you've got processes that fix problems in earlier steps, then you've got a system built out of Band-Aid™s.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          ZurdoDev
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                          Gary Wheeler wrote:

                          then you've got a system built out of Band-Aid™s.

                          No, it's called dealing with 3rd party tools. :-\

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            Gary Wheeler wrote:

                            then you've got a system built out of Band-Aid™s.

                            No, it's called dealing with 3rd party tools. :-\

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            You have my sympathy. I hate dealing with third-party tools in our products. As the DSJB(*) I get to write our installers. I have one product that requires not one but two different versions of the Visual C++ runtime because of third-party dependencies. (*) Departmental Sh!t-Job Boy

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                              You have my sympathy. I hate dealing with third-party tools in our products. As the DSJB(*) I get to write our installers. I have one product that requires not one but two different versions of the Visual C++ runtime because of third-party dependencies. (*) Departmental Sh!t-Job Boy

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Gary Wheeler wrote:

                              not one but two different versions of the Visual C++ runtime because of third-party dependencies.

                              :thumbsdown:

                              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                              • PJ ArendsP PJ Arends

                                Indentation with tabs: Crime. Sometimes I will read code in Notepad, and there the tab spacing is just too large.

                                Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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                                Rob Philpott
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                                PJ Arends wrote:

                                Sometimes I will read code in Notepad,

                                Not just a crime, but also an obscenity. You can't blame tabs for an editor knocked together one afternoon after a liquid lunch in 1985.

                                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

                                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                  alfyvr
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                                  Regarding A, I hate to say that sometimes you are left with no choice. It is part of the unavoidable friction that ensues when someone would not listen to reasons, not even in front of overwhelming evidence.

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

                                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    1. Using camelCase when not using Hungarian. 1) Using Hungarian.
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                                    • B Brady Kelly

                                      Unsorted pick lists and dropdowns. This kind of thing is easy enough for even a blank slate intern to get right.

                                      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. - Liber AL vel Legis 1:40, Aleister Crowley

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      DropDowns with more than a dozen items or only two items. DropDowns for numbers. Three DropDowns instead of a single DateTimePicker.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        So, when do you use Systems Hungarian? Or worse, Apps Hungarian? :)

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        No, Apps Hungarian is the better of the two. But not by much. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html[^]

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                                        • G GuyThiebaut

                                          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                          D) Use GOTO.

                                          so break and return are not to be used?

                                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                          ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          Those are not gotos. Aside: While simplifying some code this week I removed a switch (that was inside a while) ... and later realized that I hadn't removed a break that was left over. :doh: I really dislike that break operates on switch -- I hope DMR's harp gives him blisters.

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