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Coding - so what's a crime and whats a misdemeanor?

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  • R Rob Philpott

    Well according to the BBC, the recent Talk Talk hack was a simple SQL injection. This from an 'internet' company. Talk Talk is criminal, sounds right to me. Committing code that doesn't compile can just be a case of not including a file, so I'd say that was a misdemeanor. TFS will kindly do this for you at its will. Personally I'd say excessive use of design patterns turning the simple into the multifaceted complex is a crime. Any type that has the word 'helper' in its title- Crime. var - Crime Indentation with spaces - Crime More than 1 type per file - Crime Inconsistent naming - Crime

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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    John Torjo
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    Rob Philpott wrote:

    var - Crime

    why would that be? When using Linq, you often use var.

    Rob Philpott wrote:

    Indentation with spaces - Crime

    Where I work, we indent using spaces :) Should we be put to death? :D Best, John

    -- LogWizard - Log Viewing can be a joy!

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      I can think of lots, but most has been covered. Here's two crimes that make me cringe: - Bad comments (which is most), like commenting the obvious, wrong comments, comments with bad spelling and/or grammar, etc. - Christmas tree coding. if (...) { if (...) { if { ... } else if { ... } } else if { ... } } } Something like that (add a few layers, format it nicely and it'll start to look like a Christmas tree). - Just usage of a lot of if's in general.

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      Kevin Bewley
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      I often get accused of commenting the obvious but I was taught to, and still do for complex algorithms/methods write what I want to do in terms of words as a comment (my intended function). Then I write the code underneath. The comments were there before the code, so it'd take me more time to delete them. Sorry - if you find it hard to just scroll past that stuff...

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      • K Kevin Bewley

        I often get accused of commenting the obvious but I was taught to, and still do for complex algorithms/methods write what I want to do in terms of words as a comment (my intended function). Then I write the code underneath. The comments were there before the code, so it'd take me more time to delete them. Sorry - if you find it hard to just scroll past that stuff...

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        Sander Rossel
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        What people forget is that each comment is a line of code that has to be as carefully written as everything else and that if the code changes so should the comments. In the end, if there's lots of bad comments, people learn to ignore comments and miss the actual good comments! I've actually written a tip about it, Write comments that matter[^], because I see so many comments that add absolutely nothing to the code. I haven't seen your code, so I don't know if you do any of the stuff I describe in the tip, but if you do I ask you, for the sake of programmers everywhere, please reconsider this bad habit of yours! :laugh:

        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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          Brady Kelly
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          Unsorted pick lists and dropdowns. This kind of thing is easy enough for even a blank slate intern to get right.

          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. - Liber AL vel Legis 1:40, Aleister Crowley

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            englebart
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            incorrect indentation combined with single statement control flow (no braces) Java/C/C#/C++

            if (condition)

            // 10 line lengthy explanation
            //

            originalSingleStatementForIf;
            futureStatementThatNeedsToExecuteInAddtionTo_originalSingleStatementForIf;

            FIX: Always use braces!

            if (condition) {

            // 10 line lengthy explanation
            //

            originalSingleStatementForIf;
            futureStatementThatNeedsToExecuteInAddtionTo_originalSingleStatementForIf;
            }

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            • G Gary Wheeler

              Then it sounds like the process is organized poorly. If a separate process will "fix it anyway", then why does the original stored procedure need to be done at all? For that matter, if you've got processes that fix problems in earlier steps, then you've got a system built out of Band-Aid™s.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              ZurdoDev
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              Gary Wheeler wrote:

              then you've got a system built out of Band-Aid™s.

              No, it's called dealing with 3rd party tools. :-\

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Gary Wheeler wrote:

                then you've got a system built out of Band-Aid™s.

                No, it's called dealing with 3rd party tools. :-\

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Gary Wheeler
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                You have my sympathy. I hate dealing with third-party tools in our products. As the DSJB(*) I get to write our installers. I have one product that requires not one but two different versions of the Visual C++ runtime because of third-party dependencies. (*) Departmental Sh!t-Job Boy

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                • G Gary Wheeler

                  You have my sympathy. I hate dealing with third-party tools in our products. As the DSJB(*) I get to write our installers. I have one product that requires not one but two different versions of the Visual C++ runtime because of third-party dependencies. (*) Departmental Sh!t-Job Boy

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  Gary Wheeler wrote:

                  not one but two different versions of the Visual C++ runtime because of third-party dependencies.

                  :thumbsdown:

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  • PJ ArendsP PJ Arends

                    Indentation with tabs: Crime. Sometimes I will read code in Notepad, and there the tab spacing is just too large.

                    Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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                    Rob Philpott
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                    PJ Arends wrote:

                    Sometimes I will read code in Notepad,

                    Not just a crime, but also an obscenity. You can't blame tabs for an editor knocked together one afternoon after a liquid lunch in 1985.

                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      alfyvr
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                      Regarding A, I hate to say that sometimes you are left with no choice. It is part of the unavoidable friction that ensues when someone would not listen to reasons, not even in front of overwhelming evidence.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Was just adding something in QA and I thought: there are things no sentient coder should do these days, but every day in QA we see some halfwit doing them. So I figure we need a list of Crimes and Misdemeanors, and these are my first candidates. Misdemeanors are "smack on the head" offenses, Crimes deserve a death sentence! :laugh: Misdemeanors: A) Ignoring existing standards and modifying someone else's code "your way". Crimes: A) Storing passwords in plain text: CommitStrip[^] B) Leaving your code open to SQL Injection: XKCD[^] C) Committing code that doesn't compile. Anyone want to add to these?

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        1. Using camelCase when not using Hungarian. 1) Using Hungarian.
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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          Unsorted pick lists and dropdowns. This kind of thing is easy enough for even a blank slate intern to get right.

                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. - Liber AL vel Legis 1:40, Aleister Crowley

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                          DropDowns with more than a dozen items or only two items. DropDowns for numbers. Three DropDowns instead of a single DateTimePicker.

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                          • L Lost User

                            So, when do you use Systems Hungarian? Or worse, Apps Hungarian? :)

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            No, Apps Hungarian is the better of the two. But not by much. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html[^]

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                            • G GuyThiebaut

                              Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                              D) Use GOTO.

                              so break and return are not to be used?

                              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                              ― Christopher Hitchens

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              Those are not gotos. Aside: While simplifying some code this week I removed a switch (that was inside a while) ... and later realized that I hadn't removed a break that was left over. :doh: I really dislike that break operates on switch -- I hope DMR's harp gives him blisters.

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                No, Apps Hungarian is the better of the two. But not by much. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html[^]

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                                Lost User
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                                That is Joels' take. I rather not see prefixes at all. I can imagine the type, if you're reading from a printout and taking a ... walk, but not "Apps", where different abs got different meanings for each product.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                                • L Lost User

                                  That is Joels' take. I rather not see prefixes at all. I can imagine the type, if you're reading from a printout and taking a ... walk, but not "Apps", where different abs got different meanings for each product.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                  where different abs got different meanings for each product.

                                  That's the whole point.

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                                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                                    Those are not gotos. Aside: While simplifying some code this week I removed a switch (that was inside a while) ... and later realized that I hadn't removed a break that was left over. :doh: I really dislike that break operates on switch -- I hope DMR's harp gives him blisters.

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                                    GuyThiebaut
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                                    True - back when I was at university in the late 80's we were taught 'structured programming' and anything that threw you out of an iteration was forbidden, until year two when we were told that there were circumstances where there was not other option.

                                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                    • G GuyThiebaut

                                      True - back when I was at university in the late 80's we were taught 'structured programming' and anything that threw you out of an iteration was forbidden, until year two when we were told that there were circumstances where there was not other option.

                                      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                      ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      GuyThiebaut wrote:

                                      anything that threw you out of an iteration was forbidden

                                      But break goes only to the end, not somewhere completely different, it's structured (still prefer to avoid it though).

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                                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                        D.1) Storing "numbers" as integers just because they're called numbers. (Telephone numbers, social security numbers, etc.)


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        Hear! Hear!

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                                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                                          It will be in the source code history.

                                          Kevin

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          But where? And why was it removed?

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