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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

    Excellent you should start getting advertisements shortly and they'll track you to make sure you're making the best use of your new OS and well they might give it to a few other people but they're responsible right, they wouldn't give it to anybody you wouldn't right? There ain't no such thing as a free lunch!

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    Lost User
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    Time for counter-measures as Dave suggests above? :^)

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      Several users have posted messages here, complaining about Win 10. I was apprehensive at first, and wanted to wait, but then my curiosity got the better of me and I decided to try it. I roughly followed these steps: 1. First I created an image of my systems drive, In case I decided to revert to 8.1. 2. I upgraded my existing installation to 10. This step is essential, because it gives you an activated Win 10 setup. When you later do a clean install from a "OEM" disc, Microsoft will recognize your computer as eligible for 10 and you will have no trouble getting the setup activated. I much prefer a "clean" installation on a blank drive, rather than an "upgraded" setup. 3. Then I downloaded the ISO file to create a Win 10 install disc from Microsoft and burned a DVD to do the installation. 4. Backed up all data on my systems drive. There wasn't much, as I use a second internal drive to store my data. 5. Using an old Active@ disc I bought years ago from LSoft, I deleted all partitions on my systems drive. 6. Created a new recovery partition on the drive. If you don't create this partition, the Windows installer will create it. However, Windows is inclined to make this partition so small that after time, it will not have enough space to create a shadow copy of itself and you will not be able to create a shadow image of your entire systems drive. I make the recovery partition 2 GB, which is plenty. 7. Mark the recovery partition as Active (important). There is no need to assign a drive letter to this partition. 8. Create a second partition, using the entire remainder of the systems drive. Make this partition a Primary partition. Do NOT mark it as active. Assign drive letter C. 9. Using the Microsoft disc, install Windows 10 on the second, large partition. Skip the two steps where it asks you for an activation code. 10. As soon as Windows runs, assuming you have Internet access, the installation should become activated, provided you did not skip step 2. 11. Install all your Apps and updates. I had absolutely zero issues with 10, and I am very pleased with it.

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      Chris Losinger
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      i let the auto-installer do what it was written to do. worked perfectly. zero problems.

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        It's not as bad as it sounds. Keep in mind that Win 10 is new, and there are not many updates for the OS yet. What also helped me, is that I have a SSD systems drive, that just about doubles your write speed. The entire process took me about 8 hours, and a big part of that was setting up Visual Studio with all its updates. I believe it was worth my while. :) I like to have full control over aspects like partition sizes, etc.

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        :thumbsup:

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          Several users have posted messages here, complaining about Win 10. I was apprehensive at first, and wanted to wait, but then my curiosity got the better of me and I decided to try it. I roughly followed these steps: 1. First I created an image of my systems drive, In case I decided to revert to 8.1. 2. I upgraded my existing installation to 10. This step is essential, because it gives you an activated Win 10 setup. When you later do a clean install from a "OEM" disc, Microsoft will recognize your computer as eligible for 10 and you will have no trouble getting the setup activated. I much prefer a "clean" installation on a blank drive, rather than an "upgraded" setup. 3. Then I downloaded the ISO file to create a Win 10 install disc from Microsoft and burned a DVD to do the installation. 4. Backed up all data on my systems drive. There wasn't much, as I use a second internal drive to store my data. 5. Using an old Active@ disc I bought years ago from LSoft, I deleted all partitions on my systems drive. 6. Created a new recovery partition on the drive. If you don't create this partition, the Windows installer will create it. However, Windows is inclined to make this partition so small that after time, it will not have enough space to create a shadow copy of itself and you will not be able to create a shadow image of your entire systems drive. I make the recovery partition 2 GB, which is plenty. 7. Mark the recovery partition as Active (important). There is no need to assign a drive letter to this partition. 8. Create a second partition, using the entire remainder of the systems drive. Make this partition a Primary partition. Do NOT mark it as active. Assign drive letter C. 9. Using the Microsoft disc, install Windows 10 on the second, large partition. Skip the two steps where it asks you for an activation code. 10. As soon as Windows runs, assuming you have Internet access, the installation should become activated, provided you did not skip step 2. 11. Install all your Apps and updates. I had absolutely zero issues with 10, and I am very pleased with it.

          How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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          Dave Kreskowiak
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          That's nice. I just tried the upgrade to Windows 10 and cannot, for the life of me, get the keyboard and mouse to work. I've tried everything for about 3 hours now. Next step, reverting the machine back to Win7...

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            Time for counter-measures as Dave suggests above? :^)

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            Mike Hankey
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            I'm still at 7 and intend to stay there for some time.

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            • D DaveX86

              I installed 'Destroy Windows 10 Spying[^]' ...it's mostly a bunch of firewall rules and entries in the HOSTS file to redirect telemetry to nowhere...seems to be working, only had it going a couple of days.

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              Patrice T
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              Just had an idea ;P They want some telemetry, why not give them some ? What a bout a flood generator sending random data ;P

              Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                Just had an idea ;P They want some telemetry, why not give them some ? What a bout a flood generator sending random data ;P

                Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                DaveX86
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                That is a really cool idea! :)

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                • L Lost User

                  Several users have posted messages here, complaining about Win 10. I was apprehensive at first, and wanted to wait, but then my curiosity got the better of me and I decided to try it. I roughly followed these steps: 1. First I created an image of my systems drive, In case I decided to revert to 8.1. 2. I upgraded my existing installation to 10. This step is essential, because it gives you an activated Win 10 setup. When you later do a clean install from a "OEM" disc, Microsoft will recognize your computer as eligible for 10 and you will have no trouble getting the setup activated. I much prefer a "clean" installation on a blank drive, rather than an "upgraded" setup. 3. Then I downloaded the ISO file to create a Win 10 install disc from Microsoft and burned a DVD to do the installation. 4. Backed up all data on my systems drive. There wasn't much, as I use a second internal drive to store my data. 5. Using an old Active@ disc I bought years ago from LSoft, I deleted all partitions on my systems drive. 6. Created a new recovery partition on the drive. If you don't create this partition, the Windows installer will create it. However, Windows is inclined to make this partition so small that after time, it will not have enough space to create a shadow copy of itself and you will not be able to create a shadow image of your entire systems drive. I make the recovery partition 2 GB, which is plenty. 7. Mark the recovery partition as Active (important). There is no need to assign a drive letter to this partition. 8. Create a second partition, using the entire remainder of the systems drive. Make this partition a Primary partition. Do NOT mark it as active. Assign drive letter C. 9. Using the Microsoft disc, install Windows 10 on the second, large partition. Skip the two steps where it asks you for an activation code. 10. As soon as Windows runs, assuming you have Internet access, the installation should become activated, provided you did not skip step 2. 11. Install all your Apps and updates. I had absolutely zero issues with 10, and I am very pleased with it.

                  How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                  Krunal Rohit
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                  I installed it when it launched, and uninstalled the next day. And the popup keeps bugging me to install-install-install Win10. Had a worst experience while using it. :doh:

                  Cheers KR

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                  • L Lost User

                    Several users have posted messages here, complaining about Win 10. I was apprehensive at first, and wanted to wait, but then my curiosity got the better of me and I decided to try it. I roughly followed these steps: 1. First I created an image of my systems drive, In case I decided to revert to 8.1. 2. I upgraded my existing installation to 10. This step is essential, because it gives you an activated Win 10 setup. When you later do a clean install from a "OEM" disc, Microsoft will recognize your computer as eligible for 10 and you will have no trouble getting the setup activated. I much prefer a "clean" installation on a blank drive, rather than an "upgraded" setup. 3. Then I downloaded the ISO file to create a Win 10 install disc from Microsoft and burned a DVD to do the installation. 4. Backed up all data on my systems drive. There wasn't much, as I use a second internal drive to store my data. 5. Using an old Active@ disc I bought years ago from LSoft, I deleted all partitions on my systems drive. 6. Created a new recovery partition on the drive. If you don't create this partition, the Windows installer will create it. However, Windows is inclined to make this partition so small that after time, it will not have enough space to create a shadow copy of itself and you will not be able to create a shadow image of your entire systems drive. I make the recovery partition 2 GB, which is plenty. 7. Mark the recovery partition as Active (important). There is no need to assign a drive letter to this partition. 8. Create a second partition, using the entire remainder of the systems drive. Make this partition a Primary partition. Do NOT mark it as active. Assign drive letter C. 9. Using the Microsoft disc, install Windows 10 on the second, large partition. Skip the two steps where it asks you for an activation code. 10. As soon as Windows runs, assuming you have Internet access, the installation should become activated, provided you did not skip step 2. 11. Install all your Apps and updates. I had absolutely zero issues with 10, and I am very pleased with it.

                    How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                    hakahme
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                    The installation of Windows 10 was easy and smooth. It ended serious update troubles with Windows 8.1. But there is a Windows 7 system which I want to keep. It proved difficult to stop the upgrades nagging...

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                      Several users have posted messages here, complaining about Win 10. I was apprehensive at first, and wanted to wait, but then my curiosity got the better of me and I decided to try it. I roughly followed these steps: 1. First I created an image of my systems drive, In case I decided to revert to 8.1. 2. I upgraded my existing installation to 10. This step is essential, because it gives you an activated Win 10 setup. When you later do a clean install from a "OEM" disc, Microsoft will recognize your computer as eligible for 10 and you will have no trouble getting the setup activated. I much prefer a "clean" installation on a blank drive, rather than an "upgraded" setup. 3. Then I downloaded the ISO file to create a Win 10 install disc from Microsoft and burned a DVD to do the installation. 4. Backed up all data on my systems drive. There wasn't much, as I use a second internal drive to store my data. 5. Using an old Active@ disc I bought years ago from LSoft, I deleted all partitions on my systems drive. 6. Created a new recovery partition on the drive. If you don't create this partition, the Windows installer will create it. However, Windows is inclined to make this partition so small that after time, it will not have enough space to create a shadow copy of itself and you will not be able to create a shadow image of your entire systems drive. I make the recovery partition 2 GB, which is plenty. 7. Mark the recovery partition as Active (important). There is no need to assign a drive letter to this partition. 8. Create a second partition, using the entire remainder of the systems drive. Make this partition a Primary partition. Do NOT mark it as active. Assign drive letter C. 9. Using the Microsoft disc, install Windows 10 on the second, large partition. Skip the two steps where it asks you for an activation code. 10. As soon as Windows runs, assuming you have Internet access, the installation should become activated, provided you did not skip step 2. 11. Install all your Apps and updates. I had absolutely zero issues with 10, and I am very pleased with it.

                      How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                      How do you create a recovery partition? Is it just a primary partition marked "active"? Send Codez Plz :)

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                        How do you create a recovery partition? Is it just a primary partition marked "active"? Send Codez Plz :)

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                        No codez. I use an application on the LSoft Active@ disc that is designed to manipulate partitions. If you don't have such a disc, you should be able to create partitions with an old XP or Vista disc. After you delete the old partitions, you first create a primary partition of around 2 GB that you mark Active. Then the main partition. There is nothing special about the recovery partition, except that it is Active and has no drive letter.

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                          That's nice. I just tried the upgrade to Windows 10 and cannot, for the life of me, get the keyboard and mouse to work. I've tried everything for about 3 hours now. Next step, reverting the machine back to Win7...

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                          That is strange! Is there anything special about your keyboard and mouse?

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                            No codez. I use an application on the LSoft Active@ disc that is designed to manipulate partitions. If you don't have such a disc, you should be able to create partitions with an old XP or Vista disc. After you delete the old partitions, you first create a primary partition of around 2 GB that you mark Active. Then the main partition. There is nothing special about the recovery partition, except that it is Active and has no drive letter.

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                            OK, thanks.

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                              That is strange! Is there anything special about your keyboard and mouse?

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                              Dave Kreskowiak
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                              No, but apparently it's a VERY common problem. Now I have to figure out how I'm going to revert the machine without a keyboard to hit Shift-F8 on. The USB hub driver goes dead when Windows never sees that your hitting Shift-F8 to go into the maintenance menu and tell it to revert. :mad: My MoBo doesn't have PS/2 ports, so a USB keyboard is my only option.

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                                No, but apparently it's a VERY common problem. Now I have to figure out how I'm going to revert the machine without a keyboard to hit Shift-F8 on. The USB hub driver goes dead when Windows never sees that your hitting Shift-F8 to go into the maintenance menu and tell it to revert. :mad: My MoBo doesn't have PS/2 ports, so a USB keyboard is my only option.

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                                You don't have a Win 7 image and the associated boot disc? If yes, you will have the ability to restore 7 without having to "undo" 10 first.

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                                  You don't have a Win 7 image and the associated boot disc? If yes, you will have the ability to restore 7 without having to "undo" 10 first.

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                                  I've got the Win7 boot and I just started the Win10 boot disc. The Win10 boot say when telling it to go back to the previous build, "We ran into a problem and won't be able to take you back to the previous build. Try resetting your current build instead". ELEPHANT!

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                                    I've got the Win7 boot and I just started the Win10 boot disc. The Win10 boot say when telling it to go back to the previous build, "We ran into a problem and won't be able to take you back to the previous build. Try resetting your current build instead". ELEPHANT!

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                                    The Win 7 boot disc I refer to is not the Windows 7 system install disc, but the bootable media that Windows can create when you make an image of your systems drive. If you don't have such an image, it seems to me you may have to install Windows 7 from scratch?

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                                      OK, thanks.

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                                      Daniel, This seems to be a free partition manager: http://lsoft.net/partman.aspx[^]

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                                        The Win 7 boot disc I refer to is not the Windows 7 system install disc, but the bootable media that Windows can create when you make an image of your systems drive. If you don't have such an image, it seems to me you may have to install Windows 7 from scratch?

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                                        Dave Kreskowiak
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                                        Yeah, I've got that disc too. Was trying to give Win10 a chance, but it's not looking good.

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                                          The Win 7 boot disc I refer to is not the Windows 7 system install disc, but the bootable media that Windows can create when you make an image of your systems drive. If you don't have such an image, it seems to me you may have to install Windows 7 from scratch?

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                                          ELEPHANTING piece of shit! My Win7 recovery disk will not boot. It worked BEFORE I tried to install Win10, now it doesn't. "Non-system disk or disk error". The Win10 tools will not load the drivers I need to get at my backup image. I can't restore the backup at all. Trying to install Windows on the same drive as the f'd up Win10 installation won't work either. It says it has to wipe the drive to do an install. Something I can not afford now that my backup is completely useless. After fiddling around with thing all day, I'm down to installing a new SSD in the machine and trying to install Windows on that. ELEPHANTING can't do that either! Errors out because the old drive is still in the machine and has boot crap on it and Windows doesn't like it! I have to remove the old drive to get Windows to install on the new one ... in theory anyway. Everything I try Windows is shooting down for some reason of another.

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