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  • D dandy72

    stephen.hazel wrote:

    I'm kinda rooting for Android. It's got a looooong ways to go to be a real desktop os, but I like the quality I'm seeing

    We must not be reading the same articles, because all I keep reading about is how badly vulnerable Android is, and there's no clean solution because its users are at the mercy of their carriers. Also, desktop OS? I've seen the x86 Android emulators, but I'm guessing you're talking about something else entirely...?

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    stephen hazel
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    You're not seeing quality in the Android code base? I am. And in their docs. Quality. As for the updates, my Nexus10 is receiving patch updates. I'm not talking major OS or service pack updates, either - patch updates WITH release notes that specifically say it is a security update only. Yeah, microsoft, i see no release notes from you. My at&t phone may not ever see those updates thanks to, well, at&t. But google is putting them out. And they wouldn't be doing that if they weren't planning on fixing the situation they're in now. I'm definitely not talking about x86 android emulators - those are TERRIBLE. You're way better off testing on a real device. I'm hoping to see the quality of the android code base expand to handle a real tablet PC that you can hook 2 monitors and 2 usb hubs to. Which, of course, is a loooong ways from reality. But I'd like to see it. I'd dump windows immediately, because so would the grammas who can't afford apple.

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    • F Frank Alviani

      Is it really that satisfying to be a victim?

      My long term goal is to live forever. So far, so good...

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      stephen hazel
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      uhhh, I'm a victim because.....?? I am gettin by just fine on win10. I read. But my customers aren't computer programmers...

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      • S stephen hazel

        I'm considering linux, but what about the grandmas that use the computer program I wrote for windows? It's them I'm concerned about.

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        enhzflep
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        Well then, it's probably long overdue that you did some work with a cross-platform library. I've used Qt back when Trolltech still owned it and more recently have had success with wxWidgets.

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          I have never understood hatred towards Microsoft. They don't create perfect software but not only have they have always made the best software they also make it the easiest to build on top of their software and improve it. There is no one that even comes close to being as good as Microsoft. Many of us have had good paying careers because of what Microsoft does. If you are this upset at using Microsoft products, you might just kill yourself using someone else's products. :^)

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          RyanDev wrote:

          I have never understood hatred towards Microsoft

          These are the bastards that "deprecated" Silverlight, never to be forgiven, never to be forgotten. And now they (and the rest of the industry) inflict the current web stack on us, what a dabacle. I will give them some kudos for VS, Windows 10 (upgraded easily and simply) but they lose a LOT for their "telemetry" crap they distributing.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          • S stephen hazel

            Where's the rage i expected to find in here? Doesn't anybody have a grandma that they've had to help through this win10 SP1 thing? Yes grandma. Start / Power / Restart, then wait 45 minutes. It will finally work again. No. It'll be no better than before. But it will work again. At least windows explorer remembers where you f***-ing put it. Is there anything else in this damn service pack??? Doesn't this win10 stuff ANGER anybody besides me??? I mean, wtf??? The old control panel isn't gone, but there IS a huge new one to wade through. And it's dog slow. Full of thrilling ........ animations. And the start menu is back. But it's now DOG slow. Are there any good parts to windows 10? At all? I mean, isn't this exactly how you're NOT supposed to deliver software? Does Microsoft feel no shame? wtf?

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            Mike Hankey
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            I saved myself the aggravation and stayed with 7.

            New version: WinHeist Version
            You didn't fall from the stupid tree you got dragged through the whole dumbass forest.

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            • S stephen hazel

              works fine, eh? so it doesn't bother you that you've had to wait 2 hours for win10 and SP1 to install? Restart your pc and boom - it's gone for 45 minutes no warning. That doesn't bother you? and you've got an os that's basically win7 plus bloat plus a windows update that's a lot bumpier? I don't know about you, but I'm getting worried about microsoft. This was supposed to be the GOOD one of the every other release cycle. Seriously, has the emperor decided he likes his new "clothes" ??? Do we have to go looking for an emperor that isn't fricken insane? I am pretty p***ed... This is not how the company that builds my OS should be.

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              stephen.hazel wrote:

              so it doesn't bother you that you've had to wait 2 hours for win10 and SP1 to install?

              I have not had to wait 2 hours for any Windows 10 installations or updates. Maybe it's just you.

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                Where's the rage i expected to find in here? Doesn't anybody have a grandma that they've had to help through this win10 SP1 thing? Yes grandma. Start / Power / Restart, then wait 45 minutes. It will finally work again. No. It'll be no better than before. But it will work again. At least windows explorer remembers where you f***-ing put it. Is there anything else in this damn service pack??? Doesn't this win10 stuff ANGER anybody besides me??? I mean, wtf??? The old control panel isn't gone, but there IS a huge new one to wade through. And it's dog slow. Full of thrilling ........ animations. And the start menu is back. But it's now DOG slow. Are there any good parts to windows 10? At all? I mean, isn't this exactly how you're NOT supposed to deliver software? Does Microsoft feel no shame? wtf?

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                Dominic Burford
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                And breathe :)

                "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                • S stephen hazel

                  ha ha :) I hear that. but you knoooooow gramma is gonna see that big update circle with the 10% and think to herself "where are my cat videos? I see that it says don't turn off your PC, but I really want to see those cat videos. I bet if I turned it off and on again it'll start working." FORCE POWER DOWN... Steeeeeeve? Yeah, hi, it's gramma. My computer doesn't work, can you come help me, please? I don't think win10 or any OS ever will everrrr solve the gramma problem :)

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                  OT - really enjoyed reading your bio on your website. How did you remember all that stuff? I can't recall what happened three days ago; but I was born 20 years before you. And, incidentally, passed through Seattle (courtesy of Merchant Marine) the year you were born.

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                  • S stephen hazel

                    Where's the rage i expected to find in here? Doesn't anybody have a grandma that they've had to help through this win10 SP1 thing? Yes grandma. Start / Power / Restart, then wait 45 minutes. It will finally work again. No. It'll be no better than before. But it will work again. At least windows explorer remembers where you f***-ing put it. Is there anything else in this damn service pack??? Doesn't this win10 stuff ANGER anybody besides me??? I mean, wtf??? The old control panel isn't gone, but there IS a huge new one to wade through. And it's dog slow. Full of thrilling ........ animations. And the start menu is back. But it's now DOG slow. Are there any good parts to windows 10? At all? I mean, isn't this exactly how you're NOT supposed to deliver software? Does Microsoft feel no shame? wtf?

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                    Any new OS release is bound to have some issues with it, but all in all it works perfectly for me. The one thing I am pissed about is the auto update mechanism which you can't switch off.

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                    (MQOTD rules and previous solutions)

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                    • L Lost User

                      OT - really enjoyed reading your bio on your website. How did you remember all that stuff? I can't recall what happened three days ago; but I was born 20 years before you. And, incidentally, passed through Seattle (courtesy of Merchant Marine) the year you were born.

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                      Agent__007
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                      Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                      your bio on your website

                      Great read! Thanks for pointing that out. :thumbsup:

                      You have just been Sharapova'd.

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                        Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                        your bio on your website

                        Great read! Thanks for pointing that out. :thumbsup:

                        You have just been Sharapova'd.

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                        enhzflep
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                        Seconded.

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          I saved myself the aggravation and stayed with 7.

                          New version: WinHeist Version
                          You didn't fall from the stupid tree you got dragged through the whole dumbass forest.

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                          Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated!

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                          • S stephen hazel

                            Where's the rage i expected to find in here? Doesn't anybody have a grandma that they've had to help through this win10 SP1 thing? Yes grandma. Start / Power / Restart, then wait 45 minutes. It will finally work again. No. It'll be no better than before. But it will work again. At least windows explorer remembers where you f***-ing put it. Is there anything else in this damn service pack??? Doesn't this win10 stuff ANGER anybody besides me??? I mean, wtf??? The old control panel isn't gone, but there IS a huge new one to wade through. And it's dog slow. Full of thrilling ........ animations. And the start menu is back. But it's now DOG slow. Are there any good parts to windows 10? At all? I mean, isn't this exactly how you're NOT supposed to deliver software? Does Microsoft feel no shame? wtf?

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                            User 7972889
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                            Move out of granma's house ... cure your addiction to cat videos ... any pay something more for some decent ISP performance (given you install times). All the small things revealed by you rant. (and yes, there is a post category for that :) 2 xbones, a surface pro and a desktop later ... no problems myself. Not yet feeling at home with the new xbone UX, but time is my friend.

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                            • S stephen hazel

                              works fine, eh? so it doesn't bother you that you've had to wait 2 hours for win10 and SP1 to install? Restart your pc and boom - it's gone for 45 minutes no warning. That doesn't bother you? and you've got an os that's basically win7 plus bloat plus a windows update that's a lot bumpier? I don't know about you, but I'm getting worried about microsoft. This was supposed to be the GOOD one of the every other release cycle. Seriously, has the emperor decided he likes his new "clothes" ??? Do we have to go looking for an emperor that isn't fricken insane? I am pretty p***ed... This is not how the company that builds my OS should be.

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                              User 11559431
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                              Technically, they skipped one, so it also might be they skipped the good one. Wrong move Microsoft.

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                              • S stephen hazel

                                ha ha :) I hear that. but you knoooooow gramma is gonna see that big update circle with the 10% and think to herself "where are my cat videos? I see that it says don't turn off your PC, but I really want to see those cat videos. I bet if I turned it off and on again it'll start working." FORCE POWER DOWN... Steeeeeeve? Yeah, hi, it's gramma. My computer doesn't work, can you come help me, please? I don't think win10 or any OS ever will everrrr solve the gramma problem :)

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                                dandy72
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                                Then grandma has no business using a computer. Get her an iPad.

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                                • S stephen hazel

                                  Where's the rage i expected to find in here? Doesn't anybody have a grandma that they've had to help through this win10 SP1 thing? Yes grandma. Start / Power / Restart, then wait 45 minutes. It will finally work again. No. It'll be no better than before. But it will work again. At least windows explorer remembers where you f***-ing put it. Is there anything else in this damn service pack??? Doesn't this win10 stuff ANGER anybody besides me??? I mean, wtf??? The old control panel isn't gone, but there IS a huge new one to wade through. And it's dog slow. Full of thrilling ........ animations. And the start menu is back. But it's now DOG slow. Are there any good parts to windows 10? At all? I mean, isn't this exactly how you're NOT supposed to deliver software? Does Microsoft feel no shame? wtf?

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                                  bleahy48
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                                  "There were problems installing some updates, but we'll try again later. If you keep seeing this and want to search the web or contact support for information, this may help:" Then a "Retry" button. When you try to take care of the user that doesn't do updates by automating the process completely it really ought to work.

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                                  • S stephen hazel

                                    You're not seeing quality in the Android code base? I am. And in their docs. Quality. As for the updates, my Nexus10 is receiving patch updates. I'm not talking major OS or service pack updates, either - patch updates WITH release notes that specifically say it is a security update only. Yeah, microsoft, i see no release notes from you. My at&t phone may not ever see those updates thanks to, well, at&t. But google is putting them out. And they wouldn't be doing that if they weren't planning on fixing the situation they're in now. I'm definitely not talking about x86 android emulators - those are TERRIBLE. You're way better off testing on a real device. I'm hoping to see the quality of the android code base expand to handle a real tablet PC that you can hook 2 monitors and 2 usb hubs to. Which, of course, is a loooong ways from reality. But I'd like to see it. I'd dump windows immediately, because so would the grammas who can't afford apple.

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                                    stephen.hazel wrote:

                                    a real tablet PC that you can hook 2 monitors and 2 usb hubs to. Which, of course, is a loooong ways from reality. But I'd like to see it. I'd dump windows immediately

                                    The irony of your statement is that the Surface Pro is already there, and has been there for a number of years now. I've used mine as my primary computer, hooked up to a USB hub that let me connect 3 monitors to it, plus my mouse, keyboard, and all other standard USB devices. The only reason I'm no longer using it in that fashion is that I've seen upgrade to 4K, which my first-gen Surface Pro can't do. How much longer are you willing to wait for this to be reality with Android?

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                                    • S stephen hazel

                                      I'm considering linux, but what about the grandmas that use the computer program I wrote for windows? It's them I'm concerned about.

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                                      kerem ispirli
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                                      A couple of months ago I installed Linux Mint for daily usage, never looked back. Blazing fast, no virus risk, incredibly stable, never had any problems with updating (did not check auto-updates though). What amazes me everytime: After enabling "Fast Boot" option in BIOS, when I push the power button, login screen is up before I can put my hand back on my mouse. And this is some 2-cores 3GHz 4GB RAM machine, i.e. no fancy hardware. Meanwhile; at the exact same time I installed a fresh Win10 on my laptop which is 4-cores 2.something GHz 6GB (i.e. better than my desktop). No AV, no crapware, not even MS Office or any other office suite. Just productivity stuff like Launchy and Search Everything, Visual Studio for development and Firefox as browser. It's already sluggish as hell.

                                      "The primary trait of a good programmer is laziness. Nobody works harder to do nothing than a good programmer." - MehGerbil

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                                      • D dandy72

                                        Then grandma has no business using a computer. Get her an iPad.

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                                        What does that even mean? You don't think an iPad is a computer?

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                                        • S stephen hazel

                                          Where's the rage i expected to find in here? Doesn't anybody have a grandma that they've had to help through this win10 SP1 thing? Yes grandma. Start / Power / Restart, then wait 45 minutes. It will finally work again. No. It'll be no better than before. But it will work again. At least windows explorer remembers where you f***-ing put it. Is there anything else in this damn service pack??? Doesn't this win10 stuff ANGER anybody besides me??? I mean, wtf??? The old control panel isn't gone, but there IS a huge new one to wade through. And it's dog slow. Full of thrilling ........ animations. And the start menu is back. But it's now DOG slow. Are there any good parts to windows 10? At all? I mean, isn't this exactly how you're NOT supposed to deliver software? Does Microsoft feel no shame? wtf?

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                                          Hooga Booga
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                                          Nope. Not particularly angry. There are other things to be concerned about than to get my shorts in a knot over an OS update. It works. I'm fine.

                                          Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx

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