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  • P Pete OHanlon

    No, I'm suggesting that it's not important to care what someone else calls you. If your sense of self-worth is invested purely in what someone else thinks of you or calls you, you need to reevaluate your priorities in life.

    This space for rent

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    WiganLatics
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    The point here is that in terms of your career it does matter whether you are respected. Otherwise you won't progress. Unless you are genuinely happy to stasy as a code monkey forever in which case it is all cool...

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    • Y Ygnaiih

      Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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      WiganLatics
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      Obligatory Dilbert Reference: http://dilbert.com/strip/2008-03-04[^]

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      • J Jorgen Andersson

        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

        Do you really care what someone else calls you?

        Are you suggesting it's ok to use degrading names as long as the target gets paid?

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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        W Balboos GHB
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        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

        as long as the target gets paid?

        Well, that's a pretty good start.

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        • Y Ygnaiih

          Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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          W Balboos GHB
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          A server guy once called me a code monkey - he's been a server monkey ever since - no big deal with a beer apiece. As for your workplace - well I've heard of such situations (mainly in Dilbert) - but in my place (not a software outfit) people come to IT for a hoped-for "boon of coding." IT can (and should) present itself as a priesthood (think in terms of user kowtow). Finally - once they're steeped in your code, you have them by the proverbial short-hairs. They just need to be reminded.

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • Y Ygnaiih

            Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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            Joe Woodbury
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            Worker Bee is a compliment and distinguishes those people actually doing something from the management who sit in meetings and don't actually do anything. Code Monkey is an insult meaning that even a mindless monkey could do the job. I've have treated as such by management and architects.

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            • J Joe Woodbury

              Worker Bee is a compliment and distinguishes those people actually doing something from the management who sit in meetings and don't actually do anything. Code Monkey is an insult meaning that even a mindless monkey could do the job. I've have treated as such by management and architects.

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              Ygnaiih
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              Worker bee is an insult. There is no differentiation between the skills sets of the bees. Any bee could potentially do any other bees job.

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              • Y Ygnaiih

                Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                I call myself a code monkey in some contexts, I also call guys data monkeys, they call themselves data scientists. You do need some context!

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                • Y Ygnaiih

                  Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                  BigChristopher
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                  Code cutter

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Do you enjoy what you do? Do you get paid for it? Do you really care what someone else calls you?

                    This space for rent

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                    Marco Bertschi
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                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    Do you really care what someone else calls you?

                    As many others stated, context (and tone) are important. If a manager would constantly call me code monkey I'd loose my respect towards him and in consequence question his quality as a manager (which in the end leads to me looking for a better job). If a friend 'd call me a code monkey I wouldn't really care.

                    "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                    • Y Ygnaiih

                      Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                      Kirk 10389821
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                      Wow, that is pretty outrageous. I have called programmers, "coders". The upside is that he might have meant it "endearingly" ??? :-) Anyways, I probably would have said (and note the wording) to that IDIOT: What would you find more insulting "Code Monkey" or "Architectural ArseHole"? As for the "Worker Bee"... I would ask my boss if that makes HIM the "Queen?" .. Then again, I have been IN TROUBLE with management, so going my route might lead to a consulting career where you work for yourself, but LOVE LIFE soooo much more!!! I would say it was RUDE. BTW, I have found MOST Architects who think that way, FAIL. And I have seen more than one business bankrupted by them. So hold on to the outcomes to come!

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                      • Y Ygnaiih

                        Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                        madprogrammi
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                        Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey?

                        Yes, but never by a professional. It all depends on how you see the term. I tend to take it as a complement - actually. You're agile and limber enough to swing through the mazes of code. And they're one of the smarter species... If it was continually used in a professional environment, I'd slowly lose respect for the source. It's like calling an architect an origami maker - sure, it might go together pretty, but does anybody care for more than a few weeks?

                        When I talk to people who don't even know what source code is, I open an editor window and say "This is what we go through every time you find a bug!"

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                        • Y Ygnaiih

                          Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                          User 11605357
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                          I interpret "Code Monkey" as a term of endearment, and I call myself this all the time. I am a simple creature who loves to play with code. I do not take offense from this term :) see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWrjYdD0Tg0[^]

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                          • Y Ygnaiih

                            Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                            David Carta
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                            The first time I heard the term was by an employee who referred to himself as a Code Monkey. I didn't think anything about it except it was a humorous moniker. My take from him was that he was happy just sitting in his office as long as we kept throwing him bananas (paying him) and giving him fun toys to play with (cool programming problems).

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                            • Y Ygnaiih

                              Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                              iamuke
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                              I have named myself "Principal Software Simian" in my AD profile.

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                              • Y Ygnaiih

                                Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                                geekware
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                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYodWEKCuGg[^]

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                                • Y Ygnaiih

                                  Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                                  KLPounds
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                                  I referred myself as a code monkey once to express my displeasure in a sudden role change for a project I was "supposed" to have deep involvement in.. I was given opportunity to have an active part in nearly every aspect from design to deployment.. Then one day I get word that the Architect is leveraging a 3rd party solution for the backend and he already presented a UX design with the business side. Already prototyped and mocked up the UI and established the technology requirements.. Screens and navigation were essentially done and approved. I was just to hook up the plumbing in the middle tier and maybe some fit and polish work.. While not a trivial piece of work, having the carpet pulled out from under me and reduced to final cleanup and assembly didn't sit well. So in that context, the name was properly used to highlight exactly how I felt I was treated.

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                                  • Y Ygnaiih

                                    Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                                    David S Hoyt
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                                    Just laugh and let him know that the current PC term is "Software Simian."

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                                    • Y Ygnaiih

                                      Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey? I was talking to a system architect and he casually called me a "Code Monkey". BTW that guy works for another outfit. Developers are not respected where I work either. At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".

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                                      BrainiacV
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                                      I worked at a place that only wanted drones. :)

                                      Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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