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Microsoft Needs to Stop Making Browsers.

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  • L Lost User

    To reduce carbon emissions resulting from the added 40% waste of electricity spent trying to get IE to work like the other browsers.

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    Lost User
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    To be honest: I don't see a real difference, all the Browsers Fails then and when. No one of them is really _the best_, only sometimes more up to date for a certain _ small _ period. :(

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      To be honest: I don't see a real difference, all the Browsers Fails then and when. No one of them is really _the best_, only sometimes more up to date for a certain _ small _ period. :(

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      Basildane
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      There is a big difference. IE doesn't have AdBlock. Therefore it is not fit for purpose. Edge might be the best thing since fried bananas, but I'll never know because it is infested with ads, so I refuse to use it.

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      • L Lost User

        To be honest: I don't see a real difference, all the Browsers Fails then and when. No one of them is really _the best_, only sometimes more up to date for a certain _ small _ period. :(

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        chriselst
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        We have a browser based application where I work, lots of money was spent buying the licenses, getting someone to install and configure it. Some screens only work in IE. Some screens only work not in IE. Outstanding.

        Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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          We have a browser based application where I work, lots of money was spent buying the licenses, getting someone to install and configure it. Some screens only work in IE. Some screens only work not in IE. Outstanding.

          Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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          Lost User
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          And Chrome and ff and I don't no what else always works perfect? :confused: I'm far away to be a fan of ie/ms, but a lot of complains Looks for me only "let's be against MS". N.B: Before some days, I just became a fan of linux/mint and wine and _I love it_ ;) [Edit] Allow me to deposit this here. Not addressed to you, only a general remark: Rendering the GUI with this "over all perfect system independent" browser technics takes factors more than the retrieval/calculate the relevant data.... [/Edit]

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            There is a big difference. IE doesn't have AdBlock. Therefore it is not fit for purpose. Edge might be the best thing since fried bananas, but I'll never know because it is infested with ads, so I refuse to use it.

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            Lost User
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            So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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            • L Lost User

              So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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              Have you ever used IE? It's horrible. Terrible. Disgusting. Even the latest version of IE does not support add-ons, so no AdBlock indeed. As I understood the same goes for Edge. I noticed you're trying to defend IE in a post below. Just stop. IE is bad. I even have a study book that does not use IE for that reason and it warns specifically for all the quirks in IE. I've had the same experience, a page works everywhere except in IE or it works in IE and nowhere else. Did I mention IE really is an atrocity? Sometimes I'm forced to use IE, it always makes me feel used and dirty. Because IE really is the worst browser around. By far. And then some.

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              • L Lost User

                And Chrome and ff and I don't no what else always works perfect? :confused: I'm far away to be a fan of ie/ms, but a lot of complains Looks for me only "let's be against MS". N.B: Before some days, I just became a fan of linux/mint and wine and _I love it_ ;) [Edit] Allow me to deposit this here. Not addressed to you, only a general remark: Rendering the GUI with this "over all perfect system independent" browser technics takes factors more than the retrieval/calculate the relevant data.... [/Edit]

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                0x01AA wrote:

                N.B: Before some days, I just became a fan of linux/mint and wine and I love it ;)

                Does it feel like everything Windows needs to be? :rolleyes:

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Yes, but it's really a very brief waste: all you use IE / Edge for is to download a better browser... :laugh:

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  Patrice T
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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  Yes, but it's really a very brief waste: all you use IE / Edge for is to download a better browser...

                  :thumbsup:Same for me, using just once to load FireFox when I forgot to put it on my USB key.

                  Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                  • L Lost User

                    And Chrome and ff and I don't no what else always works perfect? :confused: I'm far away to be a fan of ie/ms, but a lot of complains Looks for me only "let's be against MS". N.B: Before some days, I just became a fan of linux/mint and wine and _I love it_ ;) [Edit] Allow me to deposit this here. Not addressed to you, only a general remark: Rendering the GUI with this "over all perfect system independent" browser technics takes factors more than the retrieval/calculate the relevant data.... [/Edit]

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                    0x01AA wrote:

                    And Chrome and ff and I don't no what else always works perfect? :confused: I'm far away to be a fan of ie/ms, but a lot of complains Looks for me only "let's be against MS".

                    The problem with all of this that I see is that in the rare occasion that (for example) Firefox has an issue, fixing it doesn't break Chrome. "Fixing" an IE issue usually breaks something else in the process (for the record I only use conditional css includes as an absolute last resort).

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                    • L Lost User

                      So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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                      Basildane
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                      problem with posting.... That was weird, I tried to respond but it seems I replied to the wrong subject. If my post went out just ignore it.

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                      • L Lost User

                        So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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                        Basildane
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                        I'm not using any IE. I have IE 11 installed on Windows 10 by default. What myth are you referring to?

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                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          Yes, but it's really a very brief waste: all you use IE / Edge for is to download a better browser...

                          :thumbsup:Same for me, using just once to load FireFox when I forgot to put it on my USB key.

                          Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                          newton saber
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                          ppolymorphe wrote:

                          FireFox when I forgot to put it on my USB key

                          firefox? usb key? What year is this? :laugh: I couldn't pass this up.

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                          • L Lost User

                            So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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                            newton saber
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                            Real devs use DragonSharq! DragonSharq Web Browser: Safe Browsing / Source Viewing[^] :laugh:

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                            • N newton saber

                              ppolymorphe wrote:

                              FireFox when I forgot to put it on my USB key

                              firefox? usb key? What year is this? :laugh: I couldn't pass this up.

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                              Patrice T
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                              newton.saber wrote:

                              What year is this?

                              Don't know, I drive a flying Delorean ;P

                              Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                Have you ever used IE? It's horrible. Terrible. Disgusting. Even the latest version of IE does not support add-ons, so no AdBlock indeed. As I understood the same goes for Edge. I noticed you're trying to defend IE in a post below. Just stop. IE is bad. I even have a study book that does not use IE for that reason and it warns specifically for all the quirks in IE. I've had the same experience, a page works everywhere except in IE or it works in IE and nowhere else. Did I mention IE really is an atrocity? Sometimes I'm forced to use IE, it always makes me feel used and dirty. Because IE really is the worst browser around. By far. And then some.

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                IE is fine. Does what I want.

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  Have you ever used IE? It's horrible. Terrible. Disgusting. Even the latest version of IE does not support add-ons, so no AdBlock indeed. As I understood the same goes for Edge. I noticed you're trying to defend IE in a post below. Just stop. IE is bad. I even have a study book that does not use IE for that reason and it warns specifically for all the quirks in IE. I've had the same experience, a page works everywhere except in IE or it works in IE and nowhere else. Did I mention IE really is an atrocity? Sometimes I'm forced to use IE, it always makes me feel used and dirty. Because IE really is the worst browser around. By far. And then some.

                                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                  Regards, Sander

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                                  Member 11683251
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                                  While I'm a big fan on thrash talking Internet Exploded it's not that bad... At work I use it and I can't complain too much. After spending a lot of time with chrome and then switching back to firefox I like IE more than chrome. Edge... makes me want to puke thou. I think Microsoft should just provide a tool that allows you to choose and download a browser and then just stop trying.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    To reduce carbon emissions resulting from the added 40% waste of electricity spent trying to get IE to work like the other browsers.

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                                    KarstenK
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                                    The IE was and is crappy but Edge is really better. The best browser is Google Chrome, but with it all of you is in the cloud - ready for "Big Brother" :suss:

                                    Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      To reduce carbon emissions resulting from the added 40% waste of electricity spent trying to get IE to work like the other browsers.

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                                      Kiriander
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                                      Microsoft stopped making IE already. So you may just as well stop making it work like the other browsers.

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                                      • B Basildane

                                        There is a big difference. IE doesn't have AdBlock. Therefore it is not fit for purpose. Edge might be the best thing since fried bananas, but I'll never know because it is infested with ads, so I refuse to use it.

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                                        sibling123
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                                        So in other words: IE is not fit for the purpose of being a web browser because it shows ALL of the content of a given webpage? What is the purpose of a webbrowser then? To show only parts of a webpage?

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          To reduce carbon emissions resulting from the added 40% waste of electricity spent trying to get IE to work like the other browsers.

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                                          code_junkie
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                                          Honestly, IE is good enough. Trying to get a page to render the same on all browsers is coding hell. Chrome/Firefox is all about tracking and advertising these days with their "free" browsers. You pay for Windows, which is how the IE team gets paid. I, for one, will happily pay for an advertisement free experience wherever I can get it.

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