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Microsoft Needs to Stop Making Browsers.

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  • B Basildane

    There is a big difference. IE doesn't have AdBlock. Therefore it is not fit for purpose. Edge might be the best thing since fried bananas, but I'll never know because it is infested with ads, so I refuse to use it.

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    Lost User
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    So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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    • L Lost User

      So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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      Sander Rossel
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      Have you ever used IE? It's horrible. Terrible. Disgusting. Even the latest version of IE does not support add-ons, so no AdBlock indeed. As I understood the same goes for Edge. I noticed you're trying to defend IE in a post below. Just stop. IE is bad. I even have a study book that does not use IE for that reason and it warns specifically for all the quirks in IE. I've had the same experience, a page works everywhere except in IE or it works in IE and nowhere else. Did I mention IE really is an atrocity? Sometimes I'm forced to use IE, it always makes me feel used and dirty. Because IE really is the worst browser around. By far. And then some.

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      • L Lost User

        And Chrome and ff and I don't no what else always works perfect? :confused: I'm far away to be a fan of ie/ms, but a lot of complains Looks for me only "let's be against MS". N.B: Before some days, I just became a fan of linux/mint and wine and _I love it_ ;) [Edit] Allow me to deposit this here. Not addressed to you, only a general remark: Rendering the GUI with this "over all perfect system independent" browser technics takes factors more than the retrieval/calculate the relevant data.... [/Edit]

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        0x01AA wrote:

        N.B: Before some days, I just became a fan of linux/mint and wine and I love it ;)

        Does it feel like everything Windows needs to be? :rolleyes:

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Yes, but it's really a very brief waste: all you use IE / Edge for is to download a better browser... :laugh:

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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          Patrice T
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          OriginalGriff wrote:

          Yes, but it's really a very brief waste: all you use IE / Edge for is to download a better browser...

          :thumbsup:Same for me, using just once to load FireFox when I forgot to put it on my USB key.

          Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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          • L Lost User

            And Chrome and ff and I don't no what else always works perfect? :confused: I'm far away to be a fan of ie/ms, but a lot of complains Looks for me only "let's be against MS". N.B: Before some days, I just became a fan of linux/mint and wine and _I love it_ ;) [Edit] Allow me to deposit this here. Not addressed to you, only a general remark: Rendering the GUI with this "over all perfect system independent" browser technics takes factors more than the retrieval/calculate the relevant data.... [/Edit]

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            Vark111
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            0x01AA wrote:

            And Chrome and ff and I don't no what else always works perfect? :confused: I'm far away to be a fan of ie/ms, but a lot of complains Looks for me only "let's be against MS".

            The problem with all of this that I see is that in the rare occasion that (for example) Firefox has an issue, fixing it doesn't break Chrome. "Fixing" an IE issue usually breaks something else in the process (for the record I only use conditional css includes as an absolute last resort).

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            • L Lost User

              So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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              Basildane
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              problem with posting.... That was weird, I tried to respond but it seems I replied to the wrong subject. If my post went out just ignore it.

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              • L Lost User

                So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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                Basildane
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                I'm not using any IE. I have IE 11 installed on Windows 10 by default. What myth are you referring to?

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                • P Patrice T

                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  Yes, but it's really a very brief waste: all you use IE / Edge for is to download a better browser...

                  :thumbsup:Same for me, using just once to load FireFox when I forgot to put it on my USB key.

                  Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                  newton saber
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                  ppolymorphe wrote:

                  FireFox when I forgot to put it on my USB key

                  firefox? usb key? What year is this? :laugh: I couldn't pass this up.

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                  • L Lost User

                    So ie does not have AdBlock.... Are you using ie6 or what? No I'm not fan of ie, but please, stay fair and let us discuss techniques and not myths.

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                    newton saber
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                    Real devs use DragonSharq! DragonSharq Web Browser: Safe Browsing / Source Viewing[^] :laugh:

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                    • N newton saber

                      ppolymorphe wrote:

                      FireFox when I forgot to put it on my USB key

                      firefox? usb key? What year is this? :laugh: I couldn't pass this up.

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                      Patrice T
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                      newton.saber wrote:

                      What year is this?

                      Don't know, I drive a flying Delorean ;P

                      Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        Have you ever used IE? It's horrible. Terrible. Disgusting. Even the latest version of IE does not support add-ons, so no AdBlock indeed. As I understood the same goes for Edge. I noticed you're trying to defend IE in a post below. Just stop. IE is bad. I even have a study book that does not use IE for that reason and it warns specifically for all the quirks in IE. I've had the same experience, a page works everywhere except in IE or it works in IE and nowhere else. Did I mention IE really is an atrocity? Sometimes I'm forced to use IE, it always makes me feel used and dirty. Because IE really is the worst browser around. By far. And then some.

                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                        Regards, Sander

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        IE is fine. Does what I want.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Have you ever used IE? It's horrible. Terrible. Disgusting. Even the latest version of IE does not support add-ons, so no AdBlock indeed. As I understood the same goes for Edge. I noticed you're trying to defend IE in a post below. Just stop. IE is bad. I even have a study book that does not use IE for that reason and it warns specifically for all the quirks in IE. I've had the same experience, a page works everywhere except in IE or it works in IE and nowhere else. Did I mention IE really is an atrocity? Sometimes I'm forced to use IE, it always makes me feel used and dirty. Because IE really is the worst browser around. By far. And then some.

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          Member 11683251
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                          While I'm a big fan on thrash talking Internet Exploded it's not that bad... At work I use it and I can't complain too much. After spending a lot of time with chrome and then switching back to firefox I like IE more than chrome. Edge... makes me want to puke thou. I think Microsoft should just provide a tool that allows you to choose and download a browser and then just stop trying.

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                          • L Lost User

                            To reduce carbon emissions resulting from the added 40% waste of electricity spent trying to get IE to work like the other browsers.

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                            KarstenK
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                            The IE was and is crappy but Edge is really better. The best browser is Google Chrome, but with it all of you is in the cloud - ready for "Big Brother" :suss:

                            Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                            • L Lost User

                              To reduce carbon emissions resulting from the added 40% waste of electricity spent trying to get IE to work like the other browsers.

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                              Kiriander
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                              Microsoft stopped making IE already. So you may just as well stop making it work like the other browsers.

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                              • B Basildane

                                There is a big difference. IE doesn't have AdBlock. Therefore it is not fit for purpose. Edge might be the best thing since fried bananas, but I'll never know because it is infested with ads, so I refuse to use it.

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                                sibling123
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                                So in other words: IE is not fit for the purpose of being a web browser because it shows ALL of the content of a given webpage? What is the purpose of a webbrowser then? To show only parts of a webpage?

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                                • L Lost User

                                  To reduce carbon emissions resulting from the added 40% waste of electricity spent trying to get IE to work like the other browsers.

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                                  code_junkie
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                                  Honestly, IE is good enough. Trying to get a page to render the same on all browsers is coding hell. Chrome/Firefox is all about tracking and advertising these days with their "free" browsers. You pay for Windows, which is how the IE team gets paid. I, for one, will happily pay for an advertisement free experience wherever I can get it.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    0x01AA wrote:

                                    N.B: Before some days, I just became a fan of linux/mint and wine and I love it ;)

                                    Does it feel like everything Windows needs to be? :rolleyes:

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                                    User 11978324
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                                    IE works best for all my browsing. Firefox is just lame. Edge is crap thou. And no matter what else is said, no other software provider can meet the greatness of Microsoft!

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      To reduce carbon emissions resulting from the added 40% waste of electricity spent trying to get IE to work like the other browsers.

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                                      david21114
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                                      :java: I am hoping that they don't and more competition helps create more internet security for personal information and privacy.

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                                      • P Patrice T

                                        newton.saber wrote:

                                        What year is this?

                                        Don't know, I drive a flying Delorean ;P

                                        Patrice “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        have you removed the governor that limits it to 87 MPH?

                                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          Have you ever used IE? It's horrible. Terrible. Disgusting. Even the latest version of IE does not support add-ons, so no AdBlock indeed. As I understood the same goes for Edge. I noticed you're trying to defend IE in a post below. Just stop. IE is bad. I even have a study book that does not use IE for that reason and it warns specifically for all the quirks in IE. I've had the same experience, a page works everywhere except in IE or it works in IE and nowhere else. Did I mention IE really is an atrocity? Sometimes I'm forced to use IE, it always makes me feel used and dirty. Because IE really is the worst browser around. By far. And then some.

                                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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                                          MikeD 2
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                                          I really don't see a problem with IE and if you want to use Remote Web Workplace you don't have many alternatives Edge works better than IE on office365 if we are dealing in clichés I use chrome if I want google to definitely know about what I am searching for I use firefox, not sure there any caveat's here. I use this for an internal application as I know I can leave the window open all day and still have a usable PC I haven't found the perfect browser and suspect that whatever is perfect this week will turn out to struggle with something next week

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