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  • C Chris Losinger

    just keep in mind that US citizens have been convicted of selling arms (made by France, among others) to Iraq. finding French arms there doesn't necessarily mean France sold them directly to Iraq. -c


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    I didn't say it meant France sold them, just that it looks like an obvious breach of the embargo. I'm sure we'll hear about more cases of arms getting into Iraq illegally once the war is over. I expect companies from many countries will have a reason to feel nervous... and perhaps a few governments too.


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    • J Jason Henderson

      Nerve Gas verified[^] So SoDamnInsane does have WMDs, and no its not a CIA plant.

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      Michael A Barnhart
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      Yes I read that too, However I really have to aks why is Fox News doing the testing? ""

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      • Y yaname

        Are other news organizations reporting this? I heard a different story, on NPR, about a few rockets found at the airport that contained either a nerve agent or mustard gas. I haven't found anything else at major web sites. One would think that this would be making headlines. Jason Henderson wrote: ... and no its not a CIA plant. Do you know something you're not telling us? :)

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        Jeremy Oldham
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        Reuters http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=CJK3HZAM200ZMCRBAE0CFFA?type=topNews&storyID=2521303[^] Jeremy Oldham

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          Reuters http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=CJK3HZAM200ZMCRBAE0CFFA?type=topNews&storyID=2521303[^] Jeremy Oldham

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          Jason Henderson
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          thank you

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          • J Jason Henderson

            The ignorance of some people just pi$$es me off sometimes.

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            Rohit Sinha
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            Well, you can relax a bit then. Some People is gone for the day now. ;)
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            • M Michael A Barnhart

              Yes I read that too, However I really have to aks why is Fox News doing the testing? ""

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              Where do you read that?

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              • J Jason Henderson

                thank you

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                Jeremy Oldham
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                Your Welcome. Also, NBC News[^] Jeremy Oldham

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                • J Jason Henderson

                  What the hell!?? Do you people simply ignore the truth when you see it? Why on earth is this post being rejected (via voting)???

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                  Chris Losinger
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                  welcome to my world. -c


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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    welcome to my world. -c


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                    Jason Henderson
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                    :laugh:

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                    • J Jason Henderson

                      What the hell!?? Do you people simply ignore the truth when you see it? Why on earth is this post being rejected (via voting)???

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                      Stan Shannon
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                      If I were you, I would be disappointed if it didn't get voted down - considering the mindset of many of those who hang out here. Personnally, I consider it a point of pride to see my posts get low votes. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                        If I were you, I would be disappointed if it didn't get voted down - considering the mindset of many of those who hang out here. Personnally, I consider it a point of pride to see my posts get low votes. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                        Stan Shannon wrote: Personnally, I consider it a point of pride to see my posts get low votes. This sounds like the Us-vs.-Them thinking of any minority group. Since, by definition, I'm right and they're wrong, any criticism of my opinions can only reinforce my position. Your comment brought to mind the image of a small group of unpopular protesters (burning the flag, against the war, KKK, whatever) who are reveling in the insults being hurled at them by a far larger group of counter protesters.

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                        • P peterchen

                          I don't see why your post was voted down, but sadly, with the recent "correction" of news, I would wait a few days until counting on it. btw. I never believed he was "clean" - He's got a few nasties left - even if this one's fake. (Though I doubt it can be found) I wonder why didn't he use them? Were they "misplaced" and not found, or did enough people (Saddam and his generals) have enough common sense not to use it?


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                          James T Johnson
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                          peterchen wrote: I wonder why didn't he use them? I believe he won't use them, for the entire reason that if he doesn't put up a large fight then he can play a victim to the rest of the world. James "It is self repeating, of unknown pattern" Data - Star Trek: The Next Generation

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                          • R Rohit Sinha

                            I think it's that time of the day again. Pro-Saddam people are here. Wait till they leave, and things should be alright again. :) Kidding aside, don't worry about the voting too much. We will still read your posts, no matter what the rating.
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                            Ranjan Banerji
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                            Rohit  Sinha wrote: Kidding aside, don't worry about the voting too much. We will still read your posts, no matter what the rating. True, in fact I just noticed that there is voting on the posts.... :-D

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                              Nerve Gas verified[^] So SoDamnInsane does have WMDs, and no its not a CIA plant.

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                              Maximilien
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                              Seems we get another preentive news strike ... Sarin was actually pesticides ... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030407/wl_afp/iraq_war_wmd&cid=1512&ncid=1480[^] Max.


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                                Rohit  Sinha wrote: Kidding aside, don't worry about the voting too much. We will still read your posts, no matter what the rating. True, in fact I just noticed that there is voting on the posts.... :-D

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                                Rohit Sinha
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                                Actually, I try to read the grey ones first, because they contain "controversial and interesting" stuff. :-D
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                                • M Maximilien

                                  Seems we get another preentive news strike ... Sarin was actually pesticides ... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030407/wl_afp/iraq_war_wmd&cid=1512&ncid=1480[^] Max.


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                                  Yup. Of course, that possibility was noted in the MSNBC report: But sarin is also used in low levels in pesticides, which were found at the camp, so it is not clear if the facility is a nerve agent site or merely an agricultural facility. http://www.msnbc.com/news/895392.asp[^] Now, we'll see if this turns out to be anything: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=CJK3HZAM200ZMCRBAE0CFFA?type=topNews&storyID=2521303[^] Too bad the AFP report didn't mention that sarin is used in low levels in some pesticides (which explains the fact that it tested positive for sarin). ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                                    Seems we get another preentive news strike ... Sarin was actually pesticides ... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030407/wl_afp/iraq_war_wmd&cid=1512&ncid=1480[^] Max.


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                                    Jason Henderson
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                                    Considering that you got that from a French news service, I still won't rule it out. ;P

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                                    • P peterchen

                                      I don't see why your post was voted down, but sadly, with the recent "correction" of news, I would wait a few days until counting on it. btw. I never believed he was "clean" - He's got a few nasties left - even if this one's fake. (Though I doubt it can be found) I wonder why didn't he use them? Were they "misplaced" and not found, or did enough people (Saddam and his generals) have enough common sense not to use it?


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                                      peterchen wrote: I would wait a few days until counting on it Without a doubt. The news people are always in a rush to be the first to run the story...Kind of like shooting first and asking questions later. peterchen wrote: I wonder why didn't he use them? Were they "misplaced" and not found, or did enough people (Saddam and his generals) have enough common sense not to use it? There is another possibility...Maybe the coalition forces were so effective in eliminating the Iraqi command and control, that the deployment couldn't be ordered until it was too late. Just an opinion of course. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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                                        Where do you read that?

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                                        Michael A Barnhart
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                                        Jason Henderson wrote: Where do you read that? The original article I read on this was on the Fox News page. The original article is not available. The tests were made by an "Army Fox mobile nuclear, biological and chemical detection laboratory". Either I miss read the article (definitly possible :-O ) or it had been published wrong and now corrected. Note: Fox News vs Fox laboratory :~ . ""

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                                          Nerve Gas verified[^] So SoDamnInsane does have WMDs, and no its not a CIA plant.

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                                          Not to say that Saddam does not have Sarin, but this particular instance was a hoax. IMO, the media should wait for confirmation for proper authorities before spreading speculation. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=1514&e=3&u=/afp/20030407/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_war_wmd_030407175243[^] and Rumsfeld today specifically said that this was NOT a Pentagon approved news, and a credible verification will need a few days. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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