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  • L Lost User

    Ok, Let's compare apples with apples. I tried my Dell Inspiron laptop and the boot time is 7 seconds. However, my desktop is still checking out disk drives at 7 seconds. (I have two internal drives and two external drives connected.) That may explain the longer boot time for the desktop?

    How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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    Marc Clifton
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    Cornelius Henning wrote:

    That may explain the longer boot time for the desktop?

    Sounds reasonable. :) Marc

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    • L Lost User

      Ever since I converted my Dell desktop to UEFI boot, I have been fiddling with the BIOS settings to see how I can speed up my boot time. For the purposes of this discussion, I define "boot time" as the time lapse between pressing the power button and the log-in screen appearing. My apologies for a shameless plug: You can read more about my UEFI exploits in this CP article: (Take careful note of the warnings in this article!) Preparing a Drive for UEFI Boot[^] UEFI is supposed to boot faster than legacy boot, but I was disappointed because my boot time hovered around 38 seconds. That was until I noticed in my BIOS that I had the Legacy Boot ROMs enabled. There was a note from Dell that enabling these ROMs will cause them to load at boot time. This unnecessary load must take a few seconds, because when I disabled the legacy ROMs, the boot time dropped to 19 seconds. Wow! I have never had a machine boot this fast. This setup is really smoking. By the way: My Dell is a 64 bit machine with a 3.41GHz processor and DDR4 memory, running Windows 10 Pro. Note that this comment applies to Dell desktops. I do not know if legacy ROMs can be disabled in other machines.

      How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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      9082365
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      If the effort expended in the basically pointless pursuit of quicker booting had been devoted to any of the many genuine problems the world currently faces we might well be living in the best of times. Just saying!

      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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      • L Lost User

        Ok, Let's compare apples with apples. I tried my Dell Inspiron laptop and the boot time is 7 seconds. However, my desktop is still checking out disk drives at 7 seconds. (I have two internal drives and two external drives connected.) That may explain the longer boot time for the desktop?

        How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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        Frank Alviani
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        On my Win10 machine the booting is vastly faster if the external USB drives are not connected.

        My long term goal is to live forever. So far, so good...

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          If the effort expended in the basically pointless pursuit of quicker booting had been devoted to any of the many genuine problems the world currently faces we might well be living in the best of times. Just saying!

          I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          9082365 wrote:

          best of times

          and the worst of times. ;P

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            If the effort expended in the basically pointless pursuit of quicker booting had been devoted to any of the many genuine problems the world currently faces we might well be living in the best of times. Just saying!

            I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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            Lost User
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            Since I have been in the USA I have written to the President countless number of times, telling him exactly how to fix all the problems afflicting this planet - But will he listen? Noooo! He knows better! :-D

            How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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            • K kmoorevs

              Just a few weeks ago, I upgraded a 6 yo tower by replacing the standard HDD with a 480GB SSD...finally a capacity I could live with at a reasonable price. I reloaded 7 from DVD, activated, then immediately upgraded to 10. What a huge difference one component will make! My power on to login screen is less than 15 seconds, and ready to use in less than 30. It has totally disrupted my coffee routine! The SSD is the only new item in the rig. The rest: AMD Phenom II X4 940 3.00 GHz 4GB DDR3 Win 10 Pro (32 bit) One thing I found out was that having a 6 yo rig meant that I had 6 years of dust on the cooling fins. I realized this after Minecraft caused the system to shutdown after about 20 minutes or so. After it did this twice, I suspected overheating and download free tool and discovered that my idle temps were 195F and Minecraft was pushing them to over 250F! A thorough dusting and it now idles at around 140F...I haven't had time for games lately so I don't know if this will solve my overheating issues, but it's a pretty safe bet. :)

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              Quote:

              Win 10 Pro (32 bit)

              Oh wow! Change to 64! It will make a huge difference! (Off course it means a hardware change! :) )

              How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                Basically it is not a problem that the BIOS configured to RAID as long as it does not holds the startup back... There is away to move from RAID to AHCI, but it involves registry edit...In any case, and at your own risk... Set these two values to 0, then restart the computer...Go directly to BIOS and set AHCI HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\msahci\Start HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\atapi\Start It worked for a Dell E6510...

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                Lost User
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                Thanks for your valuable inputs, but I have already re-installed the OS with AHCI enabled and RAID disabled! It's no big deal, once you have done a re-install a number of times, as I have. :)

                How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                • L Lost User

                  Quote:

                  Win 10 Pro (32 bit)

                  Oh wow! Change to 64! It will make a huge difference! (Off course it means a hardware change! :) )

                  How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                  kmoorevs
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                  I would've gone 64 bit, but didn't feel like getting adding RAM to a 6 yo system. :)

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                  • K kmoorevs

                    I would've gone 64 bit, but didn't feel like getting adding RAM to a 6 yo system. :)

                    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                    Lost User
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                    I'm afraid going to 64 bit means a new computer, not just adding memory :^)

                    How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                    • L Lost User

                      I'm afraid going to 64 bit means a new computer, not just adding memory :^)

                      How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                      kmoorevs
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                      Not so. Six years ago when I built it, I could have gone either way. I chose 32 bit since it more closely resembled my customer base at the time.

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                      • L Lost User

                        Ever since I converted my Dell desktop to UEFI boot, I have been fiddling with the BIOS settings to see how I can speed up my boot time. For the purposes of this discussion, I define "boot time" as the time lapse between pressing the power button and the log-in screen appearing. My apologies for a shameless plug: You can read more about my UEFI exploits in this CP article: (Take careful note of the warnings in this article!) Preparing a Drive for UEFI Boot[^] UEFI is supposed to boot faster than legacy boot, but I was disappointed because my boot time hovered around 38 seconds. That was until I noticed in my BIOS that I had the Legacy Boot ROMs enabled. There was a note from Dell that enabling these ROMs will cause them to load at boot time. This unnecessary load must take a few seconds, because when I disabled the legacy ROMs, the boot time dropped to 19 seconds. Wow! I have never had a machine boot this fast. This setup is really smoking. By the way: My Dell is a 64 bit machine with a 3.41GHz processor and DDR4 memory, running Windows 10 Pro. Note that this comment applies to Dell desktops. I do not know if legacy ROMs can be disabled in other machines.

                        How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        Hahaha I laugh, I scoff, I cry with envy. My office machine takes approx 4 minutes to go from power on to completed logon. I say approx because I go make a coffee and hope it is finished when I return. I gave up years ago trying to get any sort of reasonable performance from my office equipment. IT/Security load so much crapware it is a fight I can never win.

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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