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    OriginalGriff
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    Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA?

      Through our QA.

      GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey "just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        JHizzle
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        Clearly Dij agrees and had to bring it to your attention somehow :-\

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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          dan sh
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          Someone asked sometime back in QA to create a calculator UI for them. I distinctly remember it was you with that standard "we can't read your HDD" comment and also telling him to figure on his own. Now suffer. :laugh:

          "You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[^]

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            Duncan Edwards Jones
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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display?

            It's for "Big Data".

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              It is clear lately that certain parts of Microsoft software ruled by designers...

              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

              "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                peterkmx
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                To make things worse , their QA approved it because it is a new standard ... :-)

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  Blame whoever thought touchscreens was a good idea.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    Blame whoever thought touchscreens was a good idea.

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    How big are their fingers? :omg: Each button is two inches (5cm) wide, by 1 1/4 inches (3.2cm) high! Are MS employing Manatees as designers now? :laugh:

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      MS called, the problem is that your screen is too big, if you revert to a 12" CRT it will be fine!

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        How big are their fingers? :omg: Each button is two inches (5cm) wide, by 1 1/4 inches (3.2cm) high! Are MS employing Manatees as designers now? :laugh:

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        den2k88
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                        On a 4.7" Lumia it would be a bit small but still usable. 99% it is a scaling of the same interface due to "Universal Apps" development, without any upper constraint due to the foucs of developement placed on dumbphones and cyanide tablets.

                        GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey "just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          How big are their fingers? :omg: Each button is two inches (5cm) wide, by 1 1/4 inches (3.2cm) high! Are MS employing Manatees as designers now? :laugh:

                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          It's all about resolution. Default resolution on a monitor is 96 dpi. Normal resolution nowadays on a phone is ~350dpi. But why on earth couldn't they check if you have touchscreen enabled or not?

                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                            devenv exe
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                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display?

                            it is a Single-Page Application.

                            "Coming soon"

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              How big are their fingers? :omg: Each button is two inches (5cm) wide, by 1 1/4 inches (3.2cm) high! Are MS employing Manatees as designers now? :laugh:

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                              Daniel Pfeffer
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                              They designed it that way in order to cater to all their thumb-fingered engineers. :)

                              If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                Duke Carey
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                                That's odd. On my 23 inch monitor it takes up only about 1/6th the screen width and a little over half the screen height. If I maximize it, though, it's grotesque in its appearance. Perhaps yours is opening maximized?

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

                                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                  Rage
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                                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                                  and frankly not a lot more use...

                                  Yep : Calculator[^]

                                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                  • D Duke Carey

                                    That's odd. On my 23 inch monitor it takes up only about 1/6th the screen width and a little over half the screen height. If I maximize it, though, it's grotesque in its appearance. Perhaps yours is opening maximized?

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                                    Daniel Pfeffer
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                                    :wtf: Why should it even be possible to maximize a calculator window? In the ideal case, it would detect the physical size of the screen (based on the system device parameters), and resize itself so that the buttons were always the same physical size! (There should probably be some configuration options for vision-impaired people, but that should be it!)

                                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA?

                                      Through our QA.

                                      GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey "just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy

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                                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                                      den2k88 wrote:

                                      Through our QA.

                                      :omg: :wtf: X|

                                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:

                                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                        Richard Deeming
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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        And not making it resizable?

                                        It's resizable on my machine. Are you sure you haven't got it maximized?


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                        • D Duke Carey

                                          That's odd. On my 23 inch monitor it takes up only about 1/6th the screen width and a little over half the screen height. If I maximize it, though, it's grotesque in its appearance. Perhaps yours is opening maximized?

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          Duke Carey wrote:

                                          Perhaps yours is opening maximized?

                                          Way to ruin the rant with logic. :doh:

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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