Good grief MS, why?
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Certain - it covered most but not all of my screen. And it wasn't resizable - I got no size bars when trying the first time - but it is now, which is weird...:confused:
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:wtf: Why should it even be possible to maximize a calculator window? In the ideal case, it would detect the physical size of the screen (based on the system device parameters), and resize itself so that the buttons were always the same physical size! (There should probably be some configuration options for vision-impaired people, but that should be it!)
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Because running full screen on a 5" phone makes sense, on an 8" tablet it may/may not be reasonable; and putting an arbitrary cannot be maximized on screens larger than size X constraint on would result in an equally huge number of "What The Elephant!!!!!11!11one11!elventyone1!!1"s from the peanut gallery. Personally, for the number of times I've sworn at an MS dialog for *NOT* being resizable; I'd very strongly prefer they err on the side of making everything resizable even if it'll leave some people scratching their heads.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA?
You mean they have a QA department? Now that they have complete control of peoples machines I guess they figure they can do any damn thing they want. And from the looks of lounge posts this morning that's exactly what they're doing.
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Because running full screen on a 5" phone makes sense, on an 8" tablet it may/may not be reasonable; and putting an arbitrary cannot be maximized on screens larger than size X constraint on would result in an equally huge number of "What The Elephant!!!!!11!11one11!elventyone1!!1"s from the peanut gallery. Personally, for the number of times I've sworn at an MS dialog for *NOT* being resizable; I'd very strongly prefer they err on the side of making everything resizable even if it'll leave some people scratching their heads.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Fair enough. Reasonable people may disagree on this point.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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OriginalGriff wrote:
one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display?
It's for "Big Data".
:laugh: Imagine a calculator program that includes Hadoop support for arbitrarily large numbers with an arbitrary amount of precision.
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
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It's missing the date calculation functions too (or at least was the last time I looked at it). FYI There's a mod somewhere that installs the Windows 7 calculator on Windows 10. That was almost the first thing I did after installing Windows 10, though I can't remember where I got it off the top of my head.
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Which in turn is used as an example and proof that the new standard is "out there" and we should all use it.
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Because running full screen on a 5" phone makes sense, on an 8" tablet it may/may not be reasonable; and putting an arbitrary cannot be maximized on screens larger than size X constraint on would result in an equally huge number of "What The Elephant!!!!!11!11one11!elventyone1!!1"s from the peanut gallery. Personally, for the number of times I've sworn at an MS dialog for *NOT* being resizable; I'd very strongly prefer they err on the side of making everything resizable even if it'll leave some people scratching their heads.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Dan Neely wrote:
Personally, for the number of times I've sworn at an MS dialog for *NOT* being resizable
Also titled: 16:9 monitors and tall option windows. Often hiding only the Apply-Ok-Cancel buttons... :grrrr:
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey "just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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It is clear lately that certain parts of Microsoft software ruled by designers...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
...which is great when the designers aren't trend-following slaves and actually know their backside from their elbow.
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Dan Neely wrote:
Personally, for the number of times I've sworn at an MS dialog for *NOT* being resizable
Also titled: 16:9 monitors and tall option windows. Often hiding only the Apply-Ok-Cancel buttons... :grrrr:
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey "just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy
I think the only time I actually ran into that was on a 1024x600 netbook. X|
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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I think the only time I actually ran into that was on a 1024x600 netbook. X|
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Or a 1368x768 with big buttons and characters (my Dad's sight isn't what it used to be).
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey "just eat it, eat it"."They're out to mold, better eat while you can" -- HobbyProggy
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Maybe yours opened maximized, it's OK when the window is set to normal. Tell you what, though. From what I've observed over the years it doesn't matter how they'd have done it, y'all would find something to bitch about! Sheesh....
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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MS called, the problem is that your screen is too big, if you revert to a 12" CRT it will be fine!
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Hey, I am still using my Monochrome 12" CRT to Debug windows :-)
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
There are two calculators. One in the new, what used to be called Metro, style. One that's the old one we know and love. Sounds like the key is bound to the former rather than the latter. (Edit: at least this is true in Windows 8.1.)
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Maybe it's a new feature, but in Windows 10 build 11102 the calculator is resizable. At its smallest size, in Programmer mode, a button is 50 x 39 px. The window itself is 300x500px which doesn't take up very much screen area on my 2560x1600 px monitor. In Standard mode it is even smaller.
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display?
Microsoft (well, Sinofsky really, but now they're stuck with it) wants you to have the same experience whether you're using their OS on a desktop system with a wall-sized projection screen, or one of the smaller cell phones. It is imperative to them that users feel right at home as they switch between different kinds of devices running Windows. So, the problem isn't that the experience isn't the same on a 22" monitor as it is on a 4" touchscreen, its that you didn't connect a 4" touchscreen to your desktop system :) Yeah, they're kind of out of touch with their users these days.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Dij the Cat just walked across my keyboard and somehow found the "Calculator" key I'd forgotten all about (it's a Logitech keyboard with a number of additional keys, most of which I don't use) And that brought up the Windows 10 calculator. First time I've seen it, and my word but that's bad. Tell me Mr Microsoft Developer: What possible reason is there for replacing the old (working) Win7 Calculator with a new one that almost fills a 22 inch monitor with a 20 button calculator (with memory) and 2cm high result display? Do you seriously think I am going so blind that I need to see numbers in huge mode (despite the rest of the system showing me "normal" text under 3mm high)? And not making it resizable? Even if you switch the stupid thing to "programmer mode" it's the same damn size, and frankly not a lot more use... For elephant's sake - how does this kind of rubbish get through their QA? :confused:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
