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  • L Lost User

    Kevin Marois wrote:

    It was an upgrade. How do you go about getting a disk?

    Google Media Creation Tool. Download it from Microsoft, run it and Select Windows 10, your Language and Both (x64 and x86). Either burn straight to USB or save as ISO and use Rufus to burn ISO to USB. Boot from USB and install fresh, don't need a key as Microsoft have stored the hardware key fro your laptop.

    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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    Lost User
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    don't need a key as Microsoft have stored the hardware key fro your laptop

    Correct! But you will be asked for a key twice during the install. Just click on "Skip this step" each time. When Win 10 runs for the first time, you should find that it has been activated.

    How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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    • K Kevin Marois

      I know.. I was kidding. I installed it so I can use it as a test platform for an app I'm working on, so I'll have to fix it

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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      raddevus
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      I had a similar situation on an old laptop and thought it was toast. I created a Win10 USB boot drive (rescue disk - very small) booted from that on the broken laptop and had success installing Win10 and have been okay since. I think you can get the tool at (a little different than what I did months ago): Get Windows 10 - and create usb boot tool[^] Good luck.

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      • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

        I knew this so much lovely post was a rant! :laugh: Great job, for pissing your trusted users Microsoft! :laugh: You know, the way I see it, Microsoft is not anymore providing the "best" operating system out there. Ubuntu is much better! I would recommend (if there is still a heartbeat in your machine), take it to Ubuntu, they will make it perform better again. Don't fall for this Microsoft thing, it's sham. :sigh:

        The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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        9082365
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        Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

        You know, the way I see it,

        Should've gone to Specsavers[^]!

        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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        • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

          I knew this so much lovely post was a rant! :laugh: Great job, for pissing your trusted users Microsoft! :laugh: You know, the way I see it, Microsoft is not anymore providing the "best" operating system out there. Ubuntu is much better! I would recommend (if there is still a heartbeat in your machine), take it to Ubuntu, they will make it perform better again. Don't fall for this Microsoft thing, it's sham. :sigh:

          The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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          Lost User
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          I tried Ubuntu a couple of years ago, but after a lengthy installation process, I found that I could not get drivers for all my hardware. (One missing was for sound, as I remember.) I dropped Ubuntu like a hot cake, and will not go back!

          How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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          • K Kevin Marois

            So I installed Windows 10 on my seldom used laptop. I had Win 7 Pro on there. While I didn't use it much, it WAS working. Now, after installing Windows 10 - IT WON'T BOOT UP !!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I get the Win 10 logo.. then a dimply lit gray screen.... and nothing else.. I was able to get it to boot in safe mode.. once... now nothing. MS Owes me $700 for a laptop that THEY broke.

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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            Dennis_E
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            Yup, the update is total crap. I didn't even tell it to update; Windows 10 was just there. It's like it was thinking "oh, your computer is idle? Let me upgrade it for you..." My computer still boots, but it has a ton of problems. Bad move, MS.

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            • K Kevin Marois

              So I installed Windows 10 on my seldom used laptop. I had Win 7 Pro on there. While I didn't use it much, it WAS working. Now, after installing Windows 10 - IT WON'T BOOT UP !!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I get the Win 10 logo.. then a dimply lit gray screen.... and nothing else.. I was able to get it to boot in safe mode.. once... now nothing. MS Owes me $700 for a laptop that THEY broke.

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              peterkmx
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              I had a similar scenario with my Win7 Pro unfortunate upgrade and I left my PC online and tried every now and then to logon. During 2-3 days it was not responsive as in your case, but later Windows 10 started working more or less "normally" on this PC. It seems that Windows 10 needs indeed a few days to be online to "find itself" on the PC.... On the other hand I can confirm that the Windows 10 clean install works OK from start on. My co-workers were lucky getting recently now laptops with Win10 and I heard no complaints ... Regards,

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              • L Lost User

                I tried Ubuntu a couple of years ago, but after a lengthy installation process, I found that I could not get drivers for all my hardware. (One missing was for sound, as I remember.) I dropped Ubuntu like a hot cake, and will not go back!

                How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                a couple of years ago

                Hmmm. :-)

                The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

                  Quote:

                  a couple of years ago

                  Hmmm. :-)

                  The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                  Lost User
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                  I realize they may have drivers today, but considering the fact that I am happy with Windows 10, and the amount of effort it will take to switch to Ubuntu, plus the uncertainties around a new operating system, the switch just does not make any sense for me.

                  How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    It was an upgrade. How do you go about getting a disk?

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Over two decades of dealing with computers I've learned one thing... never, ever do an OS upgrade. Clean install that sucker every time.

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    • K Kevin Marois

                      So I installed Windows 10 on my seldom used laptop. I had Win 7 Pro on there. While I didn't use it much, it WAS working. Now, after installing Windows 10 - IT WON'T BOOT UP !!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I get the Win 10 logo.. then a dimply lit gray screen.... and nothing else.. I was able to get it to boot in safe mode.. once... now nothing. MS Owes me $700 for a laptop that THEY broke.

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                      Lost User
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                      Kevin Marois wrote:

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

                      Hmm.

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                      • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

                        I knew this so much lovely post was a rant! :laugh: Great job, for pissing your trusted users Microsoft! :laugh: You know, the way I see it, Microsoft is not anymore providing the "best" operating system out there. Ubuntu is much better! I would recommend (if there is still a heartbeat in your machine), take it to Ubuntu, they will make it perform better again. Don't fall for this Microsoft thing, it's sham. :sigh:

                        The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                        dandy72
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                        Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

                        Microsoft is not anymore providing the "best" operating system out there.

                        Your wording implies they once did. I'm not necessarily disagreeing, just wondering if your choice of words was intentional...

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                        • K Kevin Marois

                          So I installed Windows 10 on my seldom used laptop. I had Win 7 Pro on there. While I didn't use it much, it WAS working. Now, after installing Windows 10 - IT WON'T BOOT UP !!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I get the Win 10 logo.. then a dimply lit gray screen.... and nothing else.. I was able to get it to boot in safe mode.. once... now nothing. MS Owes me $700 for a laptop that THEY broke.

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                          KarstenK
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                          :(( To solace you: If you have upgraded once, your licence also is valid for a clean install.

                          Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                            :(( To solace you: If you have upgraded once, your licence also is valid for a clean install.

                            Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                            Lost User
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                            Your statement is true for the initial build of Windows 10, but I have been told here on CP somewhere, that the 10586 build will accept a Windows 7 or 8 activation key. However, I have never tried this and cannot vouch that it is accurate! It is safer to precede a clean install with an upgrade, even if the upgrade fails. Doing a clean install after an upgrade worked for me on all occasions, even once when the upgrade failed. The clean install did activate, despite the failure of the upgrade.

                            How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                            • K Kevin Marois

                              Ya ok. I thought you meant you got it from someone/someplace I have a Windows 7 Pro disk. Maybe I'll insert that one... :) :) :)

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                              kmoorevs
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                              Kevin Marois wrote:

                              I have a Windows 7 Pro disk. Maybe I'll insert that one... :) :) :)

                              That's probably not a bad idea. In fact, it's the route I took just a month ago when I upgraded the HDD in my main development system. Originally, I had intended to stick with a fresh install of 7, but decided to give it a go (upgrade to 10) before installing anything else. The first time I screwed up by not activating 7 first. After that, it went flawless. That said, I spent at least a week troubleshooting installers for older software tools that I use, some of which simply would not work and required paid upgrades. (Installshield for example) A month later, and after much customization, I really like it. It hasn't crashed on me yet! :)

                              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              • K Kevin Marois

                                So I installed Windows 10 on my seldom used laptop. I had Win 7 Pro on there. While I didn't use it much, it WAS working. Now, after installing Windows 10 - IT WON'T BOOT UP !!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I get the Win 10 logo.. then a dimply lit gray screen.... and nothing else.. I was able to get it to boot in safe mode.. once... now nothing. MS Owes me $700 for a laptop that THEY broke.

                                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                CarelAgain
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                                similar crap experience here with windows 10, it is a shame, a bloody shame, considering reverting it all and stick with that what worked properly

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Did you upgrade from 7, or did you do a clean install? Upgrading can cause issues at times, but I have never had problems with a clean install. If you have the Win 10 install disc, I would recommend reformatting the system disk, followed by a clean install from the install disc.

                                  How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  The only 10 install I've had any problems with was a clean install instead of an upgrade. No official W10 drivers and as a clean install no reuse of the existing 8.1 drivers, so the laptop was thoroughly borked up (no wifi, no keyboard, no touchpad) out of the box, and while most of the drivers installed cleaning the elephanting broadcom wifi driver's installer crashed on w10. :wtf: Eventually I tracked down one that worked and got it working; but as always the only certainly in computing is that Murphy is always right. :sigh:

                                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                    The only 10 install I've had any problems with was a clean install instead of an upgrade. No official W10 drivers and as a clean install no reuse of the existing 8.1 drivers, so the laptop was thoroughly borked up (no wifi, no keyboard, no touchpad) out of the box, and while most of the drivers installed cleaning the elephanting broadcom wifi driver's installer crashed on w10. :wtf: Eventually I tracked down one that worked and got it working; but as always the only certainly in computing is that Murphy is always right. :sigh:

                                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Go figure! It seems that different machines can give you a "different than expected" experience at times! In my case Win 10 installed all the right drivers for all hardware items. I did not have to touch the drivers, except for the NVidea display adapter, that worked, but a later driver for it was available from the manufacturer. :)

                                    How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                                      don't need a key as Microsoft have stored the hardware key fro your laptop

                                      Correct! But you will be asked for a key twice during the install. Just click on "Skip this step" each time. When Win 10 runs for the first time, you should find that it has been activated.

                                      How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                      Correct! But you will be asked for a key twice during the install. Just click on "Skip this step" each time. When Win 10 runs for the first time, you should find that it has been activated.

                                      Not when I did it. No keys asked for even though I wanted it to so I could put in a Windows 7 Pro key to get the Windows 10 Pro installed. It just automatically put on Windows 10 Home. May have something to do with it being an HP so probably has the key coded in to the BIOS.

                                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                        Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                        Correct! But you will be asked for a key twice during the install. Just click on "Skip this step" each time. When Win 10 runs for the first time, you should find that it has been activated.

                                        Not when I did it. No keys asked for even though I wanted it to so I could put in a Windows 7 Pro key to get the Windows 10 Pro installed. It just automatically put on Windows 10 Home. May have something to do with it being an HP so probably has the key coded in to the BIOS.

                                        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Did you have Win 7 Pro activated on the machine, before you upgraded? As far as I know it will install the same version, Home or Pro, that was activated on the machine before you installed Win 10. At least, that is how it worked for me, even when I followed the upgrade with a clean install.

                                        How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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