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  • I Indivara

    Seriously? First they infuriated a million users by surreptitiously downloading it, in case we suddenly felt like upgrading, and now they are actually going to *install* it automatically? The only good thing is Windows 7 Enterprise won't be affected, so my work machine should be safe for now. I don't mind using it, in fact I do have it at home but I object to having it shoved forcefully up my... I mean down my throat.

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    Indivara wrote:

    Windows 7 Enterprise won't be affected

    Not so since the 1rd of February... KB3035583 is there as recommended!!! Be aware!!! (Simply hide it)

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      Indivara wrote:

      Windows 7 Enterprise won't be affected

      Not so since the 1rd of February... KB3035583 is there as recommended!!! Be aware!!! (Simply hide it)

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      realJSOP
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      That kb update installs the "get windows 10" app.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        That kb update installs the "get windows 10" app.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        Which is a nagware and (according to some) downloads W10 installer in the background - for any case...

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          That kb update installs the "get windows 10" app.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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          It seems that KB2952664 also joined the party...

          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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          • S Slacker007

            Uncheck the box for treating recommended updates like important updates in your Windows Update settings. If not, it will Auto - Install Windows 10 for you. They say you can still stop the installation, but why bother if you don't have to.

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            ZurdoDev
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            I must be lucky. 0 issues with Windows 10 (and yes, I AM using it.) Too much whining about this topic. :~ Many of those complaining are Microsoft developers. So, do something about it. :^)

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              Uncheck the box for treating recommended updates like important updates in your Windows Update settings. If not, it will Auto - Install Windows 10 for you. They say you can still stop the installation, but why bother if you don't have to.

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              Joan M
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              Thank you for telling, in my case, I still don't know if the industrial software I do use is compatible or not with Windows 10... :thumbsup:

              [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                I must be lucky. 0 issues with Windows 10 (and yes, I AM using it.) Too much whining about this topic. :~ Many of those complaining are Microsoft developers. So, do something about it. :^)

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                GuyThiebaut
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                RyanDev wrote:

                Too much whining about this topic. :~

                I bought a new HP mini pc at the weekend to replace my old compaq machine - to act as a security system. The software I use, written by myself, has worked without hitch from XP up to Windows 7. I thought I would try the Windows 10 upgrade and after 1.5 hours of installing it my application kept closing after it was opened. To me that was a showstopper so I returned to WIndows 7 only to discover that disk defrag is no longer working and all the suggestions on google have been tried and found to be useless. Did I also mention that I had to figure out what happened to the start menu option - added the application to task scheduler and discovered that task scheduler was not firing up the application. My problem is that when a colleague accused me of being negative for believing the forum posts about Windows 10 I though he might have a good point - oh how wrong I was. Being a sucker for punishment, I am considering trying again early Saturday morning[insert icon of Gimp here].

                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  It seems that KB2952664 also joined the party...

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  BillWoodruff
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                  CommandLine: wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 bye-bye

                  «In art as in science there is no delight without the detail ... Let me repeat that unless these are thoroughly understood and remembered, all “general ideas” (so easily acquired, so profitably resold) must necessarily remain but worn passports allowing their bearers short cuts from one area of ignorance to another.» Vladimir Nabokov, commentary on translation of “Eugene Onegin.”

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    I must be lucky. 0 issues with Windows 10 (and yes, I AM using it.) Too much whining about this topic. :~ Many of those complaining are Microsoft developers. So, do something about it. :^)

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    RyanDev wrote:

                    Too much whining about this topic. :~

                    Yup, indeedy, yes siree, Bob! The funny thing is how they've all forgotten the similar outpourings of despite that occurred, quite possibly from themselves, when XP came in and then again when W7 replaced it. I wonder how many of those who now laugh uproariously at people still using VB6 and XP were among those who took more than a year to adopt .Net and W7?

                    I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                      I must be lucky. 0 issues with Windows 10 (and yes, I AM using it.) Too much whining about this topic. :~ Many of those complaining are Microsoft developers. So, do something about it. :^)

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      Indivara
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                      We aren't really whining. We need other versions of Windows for development, forcefully installing Windows 10 or hogging disk space and bandwidth with huge downloads isn't exactly helping us work.

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                      • I Indivara

                        We aren't really whining. We need other versions of Windows for development, forcefully installing Windows 10 or hogging disk space and bandwidth with huge downloads isn't exactly helping us work.

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        Indivara wrote:

                        , forcefully installing Windows 10

                        It's the way companies are going though. Google Chrome, for example, auto updates. I know it's not an OS, but doesn't Android and Chrome OS auto update? In fact, Microsoft now only supports IE11 and Edge, I believe. It used to be that they supported several versions back. Those times seem to be changing.

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        • I Indivara

                          We aren't really whining. We need other versions of Windows for development, forcefully installing Windows 10 or hogging disk space and bandwidth with huge downloads isn't exactly helping us work.

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                          9082365
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                          Indivara wrote:

                          We need other versions of Windows for development

                          I wonder if that's really as incontrovertible as you suggest?

                          I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                            RyanDev wrote:

                            Too much whining about this topic. :~

                            Yup, indeedy, yes siree, Bob! The funny thing is how they've all forgotten the similar outpourings of despite that occurred, quite possibly from themselves, when XP came in and then again when W7 replaced it. I wonder how many of those who now laugh uproariously at people still using VB6 and XP were among those who took more than a year to adopt .Net and W7?

                            I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                            GuyThiebaut
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                            My memory is that when XP came out people seemed happy, when Windows 7 came out people cheered that Vista had been replaced by something way better.

                            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                            ― Christopher Hitchens

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                              I must be lucky. 0 issues with Windows 10 (and yes, I AM using it.) Too much whining about this topic. :~ Many of those complaining are Microsoft developers. So, do something about it. :^)

                              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                              Slacker007
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                              RyanDev wrote:

                              Too much whining about this topic.

                              I agree, but there are businesses that haven't vetted Windows 10 against internal apps yet, such as ours. Just letting Windows 10 install, without due research and testing would be retarded. I'm glad you have "0" issues, but I assure you that you are an exception to the case. If you don't mind me asking, do you do IT/Software for a living or just a hobby? Student? Where a fucked up install really wouldn't matter so much...reason why I ask. -- Cheers

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                                RyanDev wrote:

                                Too much whining about this topic.

                                I agree, but there are businesses that haven't vetted Windows 10 against internal apps yet, such as ours. Just letting Windows 10 install, without due research and testing would be retarded. I'm glad you have "0" issues, but I assure you that you are an exception to the case. If you don't mind me asking, do you do IT/Software for a living or just a hobby? Student? Where a fucked up install really wouldn't matter so much...reason why I ask. -- Cheers

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                                ZurdoDev
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                                Slacker007 wrote:

                                do you do IT/Software for a living or just a hobby

                                I do web development so mostly concerned with how IIS runs and the browser. But so far Edge (win 10's browser) works mostly like chrome. And chrome often changes things without much notice so I do have to keep up with that. For me, in the long run, it's easier keeping up with the latest version than trying to support 12 different versions of browsers. I'm not saying your complaints are not valid.

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  Indivara wrote:

                                  , forcefully installing Windows 10

                                  It's the way companies are going though. Google Chrome, for example, auto updates. I know it's not an OS, but doesn't Android and Chrome OS auto update? In fact, Microsoft now only supports IE11 and Edge, I believe. It used to be that they supported several versions back. Those times seem to be changing.

                                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  GuyThiebaut
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                                  RyanDev wrote:

                                  doesn't Android and Chrome OS auto update?

                                  I switched off auto-update on my Android device after the newest update bricked the phone - I had to send the phone off to get it fixed as it kept cycling making it impossible for me to get into any mode in order to revert the OS.

                                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                                  • G GuyThiebaut

                                    My memory is that when XP came out people seemed happy, when Windows 7 came out people cheered that Vista had been replaced by something way better.

                                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                    9082365
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                                    GuyThiebaut wrote:

                                    My memory

                                    QED?

                                    I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                    • D den2k88

                                      Since the old times I learned to uncheck everything and Do not check for updates. If and when something stops working / needs an update I'll check them and install the bare minimum. Who remembers Sasser?

                                      GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre /xml>

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                                      GStrad
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                                      Why disable checks instead of the half way house of notify me when updates are available?

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                                        Why disable checks instead of the half way house of notify me when updates are available?

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                                        den2k88
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                                        Because I don't want to be notified, nor I want it to look for updates. It must shut up - both towards me and towards the extern. It has to speak when it's spoken to.

                                        GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre /xml>

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                                        • I Indivara

                                          Seriously? First they infuriated a million users by surreptitiously downloading it, in case we suddenly felt like upgrading, and now they are actually going to *install* it automatically? The only good thing is Windows 7 Enterprise won't be affected, so my work machine should be safe for now. I don't mind using it, in fact I do have it at home but I object to having it shoved forcefully up my... I mean down my throat.

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                                          Stefan_Lang
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                                          Dont worry, they'll only try shoving it down your throat after failing to shove it up your ... ;P

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