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Win 10: Is it a Microsoft con job ?

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  • M Maximilien

    You are annoying. There is no "con job" in regards with Windows 10. You are free to use it or not. You don't like it, use something else. I like it and use it, so, in that particular case, our two views cancel each other's.

    I'd rather be phishing!

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    snorkie
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    I gave up caring about my operating system. I spend most of my day in Visual Studio and a web browser. As long as those work, the supporting platform is not much of an issue.

    Hogan

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      23741 wrote:

      I have no need for 10 and ain't going there.

      Fine. Your funeral choice! ;) The difference is that you haven't made two inflammatory posts demanding that the rest of us pour excoriation down upon MS for a 'con'!

      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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      How do you know he hasn't??? :confused: ;)

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        23741 wrote:

        I have no need for 10 and ain't going there.

        Fine. Your funeral choice! ;) The difference is that you haven't made two inflammatory posts demanding that the rest of us pour excoriation down upon MS for a 'con'!

        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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        Kevin Marois
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        Why are you so rigorously defending Win 10? He's entitled to his opinion, and there's more than a few folks here that think Win 10 is a steaming pile of defecation.

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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          Why are you so rigorously defending Win 10? He's entitled to his opinion, and there's more than a few folks here that think Win 10 is a steaming pile of defecation.

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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          Johnny J
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          Goody goody - Just wait a minute, hold the fight until I have fetched the popcorn! :laugh:

          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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          The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
          Winston Churchill, 1944
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          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
          Me, all the time

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            Goody goody - Just wait a minute, hold the fight until I have fetched the popcorn! :laugh:

            Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
            Anonymous
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            The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
            Winston Churchill, 1944
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            I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
            Me, all the time

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            Kevin Marois
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            There's not going to be a fight. I don't really give 2 shits, and I won't respond any more on this.

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              There's not going to be a fight. I don't really give 2 shits, and I won't respond any more on this.

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              Johnny J
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              You mean I don't get any popcorn? :sigh:

              Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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              The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
              Winston Churchill, 1944
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              I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
              Me, all the time

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              • M Member 11720681

                Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article in Computerworld | Feb 12, 2016 raises some important issues about the Win 10 vs Win 7 and XP. Steve, who has seen the entire evolution of PC OSs since CP/M, concludes "To me, the more interesting question is 'How is Windows 10 doing compared to Windows 7?' What I see is that Windows 10 “seems” to be catching up. Why is that happening? I don’t think it’s because people are eager to move to Windows 10. Everything I’ve seen indicates that Windows 10 has gained traction not because it’s a major improvement over Windows 7 — it’s not — but because Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 on users" My take away is there's no reason to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. His comments regarding Linux Mint 17.3 are also interesting

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                Richard Deeming
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                You've been here eight months, and your only contribution to the site is two Lounge threads in two days proclaiming that W10 is a "con job". Keep it up. We enjoy voting trolls off the site. :suss:


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                • K Kevin Marois

                  Why are you so rigorously defending Win 10? He's entitled to his opinion, and there's more than a few folks here that think Win 10 is a steaming pile of defecation.

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                  9082365
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                  I am neither defending nor attacking it. I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since. That's a simple fact. What I won't put up with is this absurd, hyperbolic, unfounded nonsense about it being a 'con', especially in the form of a repost when the first didn't go as well as the poster hoped!

                  I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                    How do you know he hasn't??? :confused: ;)

                    Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                    Anonymous
                    -----
                    The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                    Winston Churchill, 1944
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                    I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                    Me, all the time

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                    I'd have remembered - wouldn't I[^]?

                    I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                      I'd have remembered - wouldn't I[^]?

                      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                      I was just thinking that it might be a case where 11720681 equals 23741??? As for shows with amnesia, I would much rather go in the opposite direction and watch the extremely wonderful Poppy Montgomery[^] :rolleyes:

                      Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                      Anonymous
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                      The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                      Winston Churchill, 1944
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                      I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                      Me, all the time

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                        I am neither defending nor attacking it. I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since. That's a simple fact. What I won't put up with is this absurd, hyperbolic, unfounded nonsense about it being a 'con', especially in the form of a repost when the first didn't go as well as the poster hoped!

                        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                        9082365 wrote:

                        I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since.

                        Not having turned on the computer since you installed Win 10 doesn't count.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          9082365 wrote:

                          I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since.

                          Not having turned on the computer since you installed Win 10 doesn't count.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Good Best Answer!

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                            Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article in Computerworld | Feb 12, 2016 raises some important issues about the Win 10 vs Win 7 and XP. Steve, who has seen the entire evolution of PC OSs since CP/M, concludes "To me, the more interesting question is 'How is Windows 10 doing compared to Windows 7?' What I see is that Windows 10 “seems” to be catching up. Why is that happening? I don’t think it’s because people are eager to move to Windows 10. Everything I’ve seen indicates that Windows 10 has gained traction not because it’s a major improvement over Windows 7 — it’s not — but because Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 on users" My take away is there's no reason to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. His comments regarding Linux Mint 17.3 are also interesting

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                            My next stop, after Win7, is Linux. I'll not make a rant - although it's oh-so-tempting - but put it down to one of the greatest affronts:   you cannot turn off updates, and if your a home user, you cannot even stop them. When MicroScurge will buy me the computer then they can behave like they own it. Until then, I know a nice place I'd shove a splintery broomstick. Which I would then proceed to twist: slowly to the right, then slowly to the left, then back to the right . . .

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            • M Member 11720681

                              Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article in Computerworld | Feb 12, 2016 raises some important issues about the Win 10 vs Win 7 and XP. Steve, who has seen the entire evolution of PC OSs since CP/M, concludes "To me, the more interesting question is 'How is Windows 10 doing compared to Windows 7?' What I see is that Windows 10 “seems” to be catching up. Why is that happening? I don’t think it’s because people are eager to move to Windows 10. Everything I’ve seen indicates that Windows 10 has gained traction not because it’s a major improvement over Windows 7 — it’s not — but because Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 on users" My take away is there's no reason to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. His comments regarding Linux Mint 17.3 are also interesting

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                              Remember to consider the source. Vaughn-Nichols is a LONG TIME Linux shill. Pretty sure you can find articles by him every year for the last 10-15 years predicting the "Year of Linux". :rolleyes: Just so you know where I stand: I use W7 at work (it works very well), no plans to go to W10 due to older proprietary apps that will not upgrade. I use all Apple stuff at home. I do have a W7 install and a Linux Mint install at home just for "fun".

                              There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                                My next stop, after Win7, is Linux. I'll not make a rant - although it's oh-so-tempting - but put it down to one of the greatest affronts:   you cannot turn off updates, and if your a home user, you cannot even stop them. When MicroScurge will buy me the computer then they can behave like they own it. Until then, I know a nice place I'd shove a splintery broomstick. Which I would then proceed to twist: slowly to the right, then slowly to the left, then back to the right . . .

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux. This was right before Windows 7 was released. A couple things were tricky to set-up (Brother printer / scanner, Dell DJ music player, etc...) but once it was working it was pretty solid. I could do nearly everything I needed to but it certainly had its quirks. Sometimes simple things with Windows were quite difficult with Linux. Lack of a decent CAD program hurt a bit... Eventually the Linux quirks drove me to an iMac which still runs wonderfully today. I keep a Linux Mint PC around for fun. I don't do much with it so I'm not sure how many of the quirks remain.

                                There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                                  Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux. This was right before Windows 7 was released. A couple things were tricky to set-up (Brother printer / scanner, Dell DJ music player, etc...) but once it was working it was pretty solid. I could do nearly everything I needed to but it certainly had its quirks. Sometimes simple things with Windows were quite difficult with Linux. Lack of a decent CAD program hurt a bit... Eventually the Linux quirks drove me to an iMac which still runs wonderfully today. I keep a Linux Mint PC around for fun. I don't do much with it so I'm not sure how many of the quirks remain.

                                  There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                                  Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                  Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux.

                                  Did the same thing and came to the same conclusion back then, but I just tried Linux Mint out about 2 months ago, and it was blindingly easy to install (on a laptop - notorious for having finicky hardware). So now it's my permanent laptop OS. If Steam had just a few more AAA titles ported to Linux, I could use it as my OS on my desktop. I'll be seriously considering it once Jetbrains goes live with their cross-platform C# IDE.

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                                    23741 wrote:

                                    I have no need for 10 and ain't going there.

                                    Fine. Your funeral choice! ;) The difference is that you haven't made two inflammatory posts demanding that the rest of us pour excoriation down upon MS for a 'con'!

                                    I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                    I'd rather go back to this than go to 10: http://www.pcjs.org/?mc_cid=4df1c7dbfd&mc_eid=17649817f3[^]

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                                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                      Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux.

                                      Did the same thing and came to the same conclusion back then, but I just tried Linux Mint out about 2 months ago, and it was blindingly easy to install (on a laptop - notorious for having finicky hardware). So now it's my permanent laptop OS. If Steam had just a few more AAA titles ported to Linux, I could use it as my OS on my desktop. I'll be seriously considering it once Jetbrains goes live with their cross-platform C# IDE.

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                                      9082365
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                                      Ah! If only Linux was Windows. :zzz:

                                      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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