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Win 10: Is it a Microsoft con job ?

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    Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article in Computerworld | Feb 12, 2016 raises some important issues about the Win 10 vs Win 7 and XP. Steve, who has seen the entire evolution of PC OSs since CP/M, concludes "To me, the more interesting question is 'How is Windows 10 doing compared to Windows 7?' What I see is that Windows 10 “seems” to be catching up. Why is that happening? I don’t think it’s because people are eager to move to Windows 10. Everything I’ve seen indicates that Windows 10 has gained traction not because it’s a major improvement over Windows 7 — it’s not — but because Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 on users" My take away is there's no reason to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. His comments regarding Linux Mint 17.3 are also interesting

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    You've been here eight months, and your only contribution to the site is two Lounge threads in two days proclaiming that W10 is a "con job". Keep it up. We enjoy voting trolls off the site. :suss:


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      Why are you so rigorously defending Win 10? He's entitled to his opinion, and there's more than a few folks here that think Win 10 is a steaming pile of defecation.

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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      I am neither defending nor attacking it. I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since. That's a simple fact. What I won't put up with is this absurd, hyperbolic, unfounded nonsense about it being a 'con', especially in the form of a repost when the first didn't go as well as the poster hoped!

      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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        How do you know he hasn't??? :confused: ;)

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        I'd have remembered - wouldn't I[^]?

        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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          I'd have remembered - wouldn't I[^]?

          I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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          I was just thinking that it might be a case where 11720681 equals 23741??? As for shows with amnesia, I would much rather go in the opposite direction and watch the extremely wonderful Poppy Montgomery[^] :rolleyes:

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            I am neither defending nor attacking it. I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since. That's a simple fact. What I won't put up with is this absurd, hyperbolic, unfounded nonsense about it being a 'con', especially in the form of a repost when the first didn't go as well as the poster hoped!

            I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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            9082365 wrote:

            I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since.

            Not having turned on the computer since you installed Win 10 doesn't count.

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              9082365 wrote:

              I installed it without a problem of any kind in September and I've had not a single problem since.

              Not having turned on the computer since you installed Win 10 doesn't count.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              Good Best Answer!

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                Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article in Computerworld | Feb 12, 2016 raises some important issues about the Win 10 vs Win 7 and XP. Steve, who has seen the entire evolution of PC OSs since CP/M, concludes "To me, the more interesting question is 'How is Windows 10 doing compared to Windows 7?' What I see is that Windows 10 “seems” to be catching up. Why is that happening? I don’t think it’s because people are eager to move to Windows 10. Everything I’ve seen indicates that Windows 10 has gained traction not because it’s a major improvement over Windows 7 — it’s not — but because Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 on users" My take away is there's no reason to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. His comments regarding Linux Mint 17.3 are also interesting

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                My next stop, after Win7, is Linux. I'll not make a rant - although it's oh-so-tempting - but put it down to one of the greatest affronts:   you cannot turn off updates, and if your a home user, you cannot even stop them. When MicroScurge will buy me the computer then they can behave like they own it. Until then, I know a nice place I'd shove a splintery broomstick. Which I would then proceed to twist: slowly to the right, then slowly to the left, then back to the right . . .

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article in Computerworld | Feb 12, 2016 raises some important issues about the Win 10 vs Win 7 and XP. Steve, who has seen the entire evolution of PC OSs since CP/M, concludes "To me, the more interesting question is 'How is Windows 10 doing compared to Windows 7?' What I see is that Windows 10 “seems” to be catching up. Why is that happening? I don’t think it’s because people are eager to move to Windows 10. Everything I’ve seen indicates that Windows 10 has gained traction not because it’s a major improvement over Windows 7 — it’s not — but because Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 on users" My take away is there's no reason to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. His comments regarding Linux Mint 17.3 are also interesting

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                  Remember to consider the source. Vaughn-Nichols is a LONG TIME Linux shill. Pretty sure you can find articles by him every year for the last 10-15 years predicting the "Year of Linux". :rolleyes: Just so you know where I stand: I use W7 at work (it works very well), no plans to go to W10 due to older proprietary apps that will not upgrade. I use all Apple stuff at home. I do have a W7 install and a Linux Mint install at home just for "fun".

                  There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                    My next stop, after Win7, is Linux. I'll not make a rant - although it's oh-so-tempting - but put it down to one of the greatest affronts:   you cannot turn off updates, and if your a home user, you cannot even stop them. When MicroScurge will buy me the computer then they can behave like they own it. Until then, I know a nice place I'd shove a splintery broomstick. Which I would then proceed to twist: slowly to the right, then slowly to the left, then back to the right . . .

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux. This was right before Windows 7 was released. A couple things were tricky to set-up (Brother printer / scanner, Dell DJ music player, etc...) but once it was working it was pretty solid. I could do nearly everything I needed to but it certainly had its quirks. Sometimes simple things with Windows were quite difficult with Linux. Lack of a decent CAD program hurt a bit... Eventually the Linux quirks drove me to an iMac which still runs wonderfully today. I keep a Linux Mint PC around for fun. I don't do much with it so I'm not sure how many of the quirks remain.

                    There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                      Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux. This was right before Windows 7 was released. A couple things were tricky to set-up (Brother printer / scanner, Dell DJ music player, etc...) but once it was working it was pretty solid. I could do nearly everything I needed to but it certainly had its quirks. Sometimes simple things with Windows were quite difficult with Linux. Lack of a decent CAD program hurt a bit... Eventually the Linux quirks drove me to an iMac which still runs wonderfully today. I keep a Linux Mint PC around for fun. I don't do much with it so I'm not sure how many of the quirks remain.

                      There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux.

                      Did the same thing and came to the same conclusion back then, but I just tried Linux Mint out about 2 months ago, and it was blindingly easy to install (on a laptop - notorious for having finicky hardware). So now it's my permanent laptop OS. If Steam had just a few more AAA titles ported to Linux, I could use it as my OS on my desktop. I'll be seriously considering it once Jetbrains goes live with their cross-platform C# IDE.

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                        I have no need for 10 and ain't going there.

                        Fine. Your funeral choice! ;) The difference is that you haven't made two inflammatory posts demanding that the rest of us pour excoriation down upon MS for a 'con'!

                        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                        I'd rather go back to this than go to 10: http://www.pcjs.org/?mc_cid=4df1c7dbfd&mc_eid=17649817f3[^]

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                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          Many years ago (at home) I did 12-18 month "hiatus" from Windows XP using Ubuntu Linux.

                          Did the same thing and came to the same conclusion back then, but I just tried Linux Mint out about 2 months ago, and it was blindingly easy to install (on a laptop - notorious for having finicky hardware). So now it's my permanent laptop OS. If Steam had just a few more AAA titles ported to Linux, I could use it as my OS on my desktop. I'll be seriously considering it once Jetbrains goes live with their cross-platform C# IDE.

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                          Ah! If only Linux was Windows. :zzz:

                          I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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