Do women have a brain to program?
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While I do agree with what you say, I think part of it is also due to upbringing. I was very lucky, my parents always treated my brother and I exactly the same way, we both washed up after dinner, we also both mowed the lawn. I do however remember the shock on a primary school teachers face in the mid-eighties when she asked if I would like to be a secretary when I grew up. I remember quite clearly saying "No, when I grow up I'll have a secretary, not be one!" :laugh: Oh well - fortunately kids aren't streamed so much anymore, and most get encouragement to do whatever they want. I don't have my own secretary (btw. I have the greatest respect for secretaries! Our CEO's PA has the most difficult job in the whole organisation), but I do have a professional programming job at least :)
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Megan Forbes wrote: No, when I grow up I'll have a secretary, not be one!" You rock !!! That is just great. Having a daughter, I am very aware of this, I always look for ways she is being gender programmed so I can tear it down ( for example last night we discussed that boys can be nurses and girls can be doctors ). Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic
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It seems still to be the case that girls are socialised to, as a rule, not pursue careers in areas like coding. I've never worked with a female coder, although I keep hoping this place employs one ( because I want to see what all the terminally single guys here do as a result ). I know a lot of guys who are just too plain stupid to ever be able to use a computer, let alone code. All generalisations fall apart at some point, and I don't see any reason why coding ability would be defined along lines of gender. Too bad I missed the thread that started this, it sounds like it would have been fun. I like flaming idiots. :0) Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic
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Looks like I missed a bunfight. I needed some sword practice too...oh well! :rolleyes: Don't take it to heart hun - idiots are easy to find if you lift enough rocks. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Exactly. :) What is the male version of nymphomaniac? Could it be there is no male version, because we're in that "state" by default? :~ -- In the land of the blind, be king! Some day, Dominion, some say prayers, now I say mine.
dickomaniac? :laugh: Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Question would be: Do women have a brain? Answer: Generally, no. It means, there are exceptions. For exceptions there is sense to ask: Do women have a brain to program? Answer is, of course: No.
Would you care to elaborate? I hope this post doesn't mean what I believe it does. Hint: I'm giving you a chance to extricate yourself before you get jumped on. Hard. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Would you care to elaborate? I hope this post doesn't mean what I believe it does. Hint: I'm giving you a chance to extricate yourself before you get jumped on. Hard. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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I think it is not about women have a brain to program or not. It is the question of whether women want to do it or not. I know most of my female friends or colleagues do not like to do programming. I think no one in the world born to be incapable in something unless for those who are misfortunate. Or else, everyone has equal chances of being someone great. Just that how much efforts (hard works) have been contributed that make the difference. A genious is great not because he/she is smart but he/she is hardworking.
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It seems still to be the case that girls are socialised to, as a rule, not pursue careers in areas like coding. I've never worked with a female coder, although I keep hoping this place employs one ( because I want to see what all the terminally single guys here do as a result ). I know a lot of guys who are just too plain stupid to ever be able to use a computer, let alone code. All generalisations fall apart at some point, and I don't see any reason why coding ability would be defined along lines of gender. Too bad I missed the thread that started this, it sounds like it would have been fun. I like flaming idiots. :0) Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic
Christian Graus wrote: because I want to see what all the terminally single guys here do as a result ). It's something best not experienced. I've worked with a few women coders, of varying degrees of skill and attraction. There is a small group of ubergeeks who flock to them regardless. And the utter lack of social skill shines through clearly. Currently, an attractive part-time student joined our ranks, and only works two days a week. This one fellow is constantly near her cube on those days (generally he's not be seen), the other turns into johnny-joke-a-minute trying to gain her favor. The contest goes on online too via blogs. It's sad. ** by the way, none of this judging indicates an overabundance of cool or confidence on my part, it's just depressing to see a guy fall apart so quickly ** BW "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I had mine at 30, which I'm glad for. Over and done with now, so I can just get on with being old. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic
Christian Graus wrote: I had mine at 30, which I'm glad for. Over and done with now, so I can just get on with being old. Are you sure it's over with? Or was it a precursor, a warm up if you like to the big event yet to come? ;P Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Not in response to the article, but yes, I know that women have the brain to program. I have known several female software engineers in my short time in the industry who are eminently more qualified than I am. To say that a particular gender is incapable of programming is just plain dumb.
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yer women can code they just generally dont want to ;) Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
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yer women can code they just generally dont want to ;) Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
Maunder hits our shores Friday. Should we bother trying to organise another drink with him? Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Maunder hits our shores Friday. Should we bother trying to organise another drink with him? Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
maunder...maunder....hes that bloke who interfers with hampsters and only stays for one drink before piking isnt he? Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
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maunder...maunder....hes that bloke who interfers with hampsters and only stays for one drink before piking isnt he? Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
bryce wrote: maunder...maunder....hes that bloke who interfers with hampsters and only stays for one drink before piking isnt he? That's him. I think we need to find a pub with only the one door. He sits furthest from it and we're between him and it. He pays for all drinks. What do you think of my plan? Oh and no hamsters allowed. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Christian Graus wrote: I had mine at 30, which I'm glad for. Over and done with now, so I can just get on with being old. Are you sure it's over with? Or was it a precursor, a warm up if you like to the big event yet to come? ;P Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Thanks, that's just what I needed..... Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic
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I think it is not about women have a brain to program or not. It is the question of whether women want to do it or not. I know most of my female friends or colleagues do not like to do programming. I think no one in the world born to be incapable in something unless for those who are misfortunate. Or else, everyone has equal chances of being someone great. Just that how much efforts (hard works) have been contributed that make the difference. A genious is great not because he/she is smart but he/she is hardworking.
You've hit the nail on the head there. I can't convince my wife she is as smart as I am, the only reason I can code is that I *want* to. She hates it. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic
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bryce wrote: maunder...maunder....hes that bloke who interfers with hampsters and only stays for one drink before piking isnt he? That's him. I think we need to find a pub with only the one door. He sits furthest from it and we're between him and it. He pays for all drinks. What do you think of my plan? Oh and no hamsters allowed. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
tomorrow night? i'd hafta check with the boss Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
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tomorrow night? i'd hafta check with the boss Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
bryce wrote: tomorrow night? No I don't think so, I haven't planned anything with Chris yet. I believe that he would fly into Melbourne anyway as that is where his family is. He would then make his way up via Canberra to Sydney. Probably not till after Easter would be my guess. When he contacts me and we organise something I will let you know with as much advance warning as possible. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Thanks, that's just what I needed..... Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic
Christian Graus wrote: Thanks, that's just what I needed..... No worries Christian, you know me any chance to lay the boot in and there I am. :) Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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bryce wrote: tomorrow night? No I don't think so, I haven't planned anything with Chris yet. I believe that he would fly into Melbourne anyway as that is where his family is. He would then make his way up via Canberra to Sydney. Probably not till after Easter would be my guess. When he contacts me and we organise something I will let you know with as much advance warning as possible. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
oh...ok then no worries :) with warning i'm probably allowed out ;) can we do another shady ram deal? Bryce --- Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor
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No, I tried to re-program several girls to my likening, but it never worked out as intended. oh.... you meant... ups. Flame me but: In general, no. The "typical", "average" female seems to be less capable of programming than the "typical", "average" male. I can go on reasoning forever, but the point is: most coders are male. I think it would be reverse for training AI's: The male analysing, separating, micro-commanding approach wouldn't work well here. Once AI research gets beyond the turing threshold, I see a bright future for women ;)
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sighist | Agile Programming | doxygenpeterchen wrote: No, I tried to re-program several girls to my likening, but it never worked out as intended. Now, this was funny. But you went and spoilt it with the rest. So the 5 I voted was for the joke and not for the rest of the crap generalism. Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879