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  • R realJSOP

    I didn't even know there WAS a mobile forum.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    Lost User
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    Seriously? You've never looked at the menu to the left, or used the dropdowns at the top?

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    • E Eytukan

      If you need nice looking/doing App, dont even look into cordova. We did try few things but I got totally bored with it. I'd prefer three different environment and do native dev. The app you mentioned looks fairly simple , you can do with : *VS2013+WindowsPhone SDK *Android Studio *Xcode/Objective C

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      realJSOP
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      At this point, it doesn't appear to need to be "nice looking".

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      • D David Knechtges

        We are doing something similar. We are targeting Windows Forms, ASP.NET, iOS, and Android off of the same source tree (all C#) using the Xamarin tools for the mobile stuff. Xamarin is not cheap, it is like 900 a year or something like that, but it works great. It is integrated with Visual Studio and also has its own Xamarin Studio if you want to use that. Our source code is structured so that the only differences from platform to platform is the UI source. Of course, there are different project types for each one, but we have been really successful with it. Another thing to consider with them is that Microsoft is buying them, so it might end up with being a native toolset for Visual Studio. You do need a Mac for the iOS development, unfortunately you can't get around that.

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        Nish Nishant
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        It's approximately $1000 an year per developer per platform. So if 3 devs target iOS, Android, Windows Phone, that's 3*3*1000.

        Regards, Nish


        Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        • N Nish Nishant

          It's approximately $1000 an year per developer per platform. So if 3 devs target iOS, Android, Windows Phone, that's 3*3*1000.

          Regards, Nish


          Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          realJSOP
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          That's overly expensive.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          • L Lost User

            Seriously? You've never looked at the menu to the left, or used the dropdowns at the top?

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            realJSOP
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            Reading menus is like asking for directions, and is generally shunned with alacrity.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            • R realJSOP

              That's overly expensive.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Nish Nishant
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              Microsoft acquired the company last month and there are rumors/hopes that the next version of VS will include this in the higher editions.

              Regards, Nish


              Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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              • R realJSOP

                It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                Jacquers
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                Intel® XDK | Intel® Developer Zone[^] might be an option.

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                • R realJSOP

                  It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  As today there are two options... 1. Apache Cordova - free, but uses JavaScript 2. Xamarin - cost money, but uses C#

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                  • R realJSOP

                    It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    Denis A Stoyanov
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                    It seems to be a rather simple app. I suggest you using a hybrid approach (JavaScript...). Take a look at Telerik App Builder. Their products are good. Also they have automatic submission to app stores. As far as I remember it was free and it really saves time.

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                    • D Denis A Stoyanov

                      It seems to be a rather simple app. I suggest you using a hybrid approach (JavaScript...). Take a look at Telerik App Builder. Their products are good. Also they have automatic submission to app stores. As far as I remember it was free and it really saves time.

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                      realJSOP
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                      Telerik App Builder: Wow - $1800/year? It appears like it's just a paid version Cordova...

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        As today there are two options... 1. Apache Cordova - free, but uses JavaScript 2. Xamarin - cost money, but uses C#

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                        realJSOP
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                        At $1000 per supported platform, Xamarin is ridiculously expensive.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        • R realJSOP

                          Telerik App Builder: Wow - $1800/year? It appears like it's just a paid version Cordova...

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Denis A Stoyanov
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                          Ugh, It seems they've raised the prices. The builders was free some time ago... Sorry my bad.

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                          • R realJSOP

                            It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            ClockMeister
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                            John, Have a look at NSBasic (www.nsbasic.com). It's an outfit out of Canada that has a tool for developing to mobile devices. I haven't gotten deep into it, myself (I wrote an HP Calculator simulator in it, and it works nicely). I'm not even touching what I think it's capable of. The thing will allow you to develop to the app stores or do it by deploying the app to a server (not quite a "side-load" but it seems to work pretty well). It will develop to a number of different devices and formats and is in active development. I think these guys are really onto something, and it only costs $99, I think. It really shows some promise, IMHO. -CM

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                            • R realJSOP

                              It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Richard Jones
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                              If you are just developing and testing but don't need to actually put it on the store, XCode lets you do that without the $99 fee now.

                              I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                              • R realJSOP

                                It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                Would C#/XAML be of any use for this? ( cshtml5.com[^])

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                                • R realJSOP

                                  It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  jlongo
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                                  Xamarin has a free version of their app and your's sounds simple enough to use this version. Xamarin is perfect for cross platform development in C#. You can use a hackintosh for The Apple version.

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                                  • N Nish Nishant

                                    Microsoft acquired the company last month and there are rumors/hopes that the next version of VS will include this in the higher editions.

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                    mtiede
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                                    It's free now.

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      As today there are two options... 1. Apache Cordova - free, but uses JavaScript 2. Xamarin - cost money, but uses C#

                                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                      mtiede
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                                      Or RemObjects for all 3 platforms in C#, Pascal (like Delphi), and Silver (like Swift). Although you can use some common business library code, it does require that you know all 3 platforms libraries and UIs.

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                                      • J jlongo

                                        Xamarin has a free version of their app and your's sounds simple enough to use this version. Xamarin is perfect for cross platform development in C#. You can use a hackintosh for The Apple version.

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                                        mtiede
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                                        Xamarin is free now that Microsoft has bought them.

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          At $1000 per supported platform, Xamarin is ridiculously expensive.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                          In case you missed the news...Xamarin now comes free with every edition of Visual Studio 2015...

                                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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