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  • R realJSOP

    It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    As today there are two options... 1. Apache Cordova - free, but uses JavaScript 2. Xamarin - cost money, but uses C#

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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    • R realJSOP

      It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Denis A Stoyanov
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      It seems to be a rather simple app. I suggest you using a hybrid approach (JavaScript...). Take a look at Telerik App Builder. Their products are good. Also they have automatic submission to app stores. As far as I remember it was free and it really saves time.

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      • D Denis A Stoyanov

        It seems to be a rather simple app. I suggest you using a hybrid approach (JavaScript...). Take a look at Telerik App Builder. Their products are good. Also they have automatic submission to app stores. As far as I remember it was free and it really saves time.

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        realJSOP
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        Telerik App Builder: Wow - $1800/year? It appears like it's just a paid version Cordova...

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          As today there are two options... 1. Apache Cordova - free, but uses JavaScript 2. Xamarin - cost money, but uses C#

          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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          realJSOP
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          At $1000 per supported platform, Xamarin is ridiculously expensive.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          • R realJSOP

            Telerik App Builder: Wow - $1800/year? It appears like it's just a paid version Cordova...

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            Denis A Stoyanov
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            Ugh, It seems they've raised the prices. The builders was free some time ago... Sorry my bad.

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            • R realJSOP

              It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              ClockMeister
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              John, Have a look at NSBasic (www.nsbasic.com). It's an outfit out of Canada that has a tool for developing to mobile devices. I haven't gotten deep into it, myself (I wrote an HP Calculator simulator in it, and it works nicely). I'm not even touching what I think it's capable of. The thing will allow you to develop to the app stores or do it by deploying the app to a server (not quite a "side-load" but it seems to work pretty well). It will develop to a number of different devices and formats and is in active development. I think these guys are really onto something, and it only costs $99, I think. It really shows some promise, IMHO. -CM

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              • R realJSOP

                It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                Richard Jones
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                If you are just developing and testing but don't need to actually put it on the store, XCode lets you do that without the $99 fee now.

                I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                • R realJSOP

                  It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  GenJerDan
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                  Would C#/XAML be of any use for this? ( cshtml5.com[^])

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                  • R realJSOP

                    It's starting to look like I'm going to be forced to do some mobile development (and I already hate the prospect, so please don't attempt to assault me with sugar-coated platitudes). I need to target Android, iOS, and WinPhone. The app will have a single screen with a "go" button. When the button is pressed, the following will occur: - a QR code will be scanned - the phone's current geolocation will be determined - the app will open a browser with the address indicated by the QR code, with the GPS coordinates being in the querystring. This app will only work on a website that I'm writing (the URL from the scanned QR code will be verified to make sure the host/domain matches a hard-coded string). I explored the possibility of installing the app without going through the various app stores, but I determined that the procedures for doing so are too technically imposing for the assumed expertise of your typical idiot user, not to mention apple actually charges a fee to do this. So, I need to go through the various app stores. The app will be free to the user, so I may have a running ad at the bottom of the screen so that I can recoup any money spent (albeit slowly). Can someone give me an idea as to what will be involved, in terms of money, tools, and effort?

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    jlongo
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                    Xamarin has a free version of their app and your's sounds simple enough to use this version. Xamarin is perfect for cross platform development in C#. You can use a hackintosh for The Apple version.

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Microsoft acquired the company last month and there are rumors/hopes that the next version of VS will include this in the higher editions.

                      Regards, Nish


                      Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                      mtiede
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                      It's free now.

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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        As today there are two options... 1. Apache Cordova - free, but uses JavaScript 2. Xamarin - cost money, but uses C#

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                        mtiede
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                        Or RemObjects for all 3 platforms in C#, Pascal (like Delphi), and Silver (like Swift). Although you can use some common business library code, it does require that you know all 3 platforms libraries and UIs.

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                        • J jlongo

                          Xamarin has a free version of their app and your's sounds simple enough to use this version. Xamarin is perfect for cross platform development in C#. You can use a hackintosh for The Apple version.

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                          mtiede
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                          Xamarin is free now that Microsoft has bought them.

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                          • R realJSOP

                            At $1000 per supported platform, Xamarin is ridiculously expensive.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                            In case you missed the news...Xamarin now comes free with every edition of Visual Studio 2015...

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                            "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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