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  • R realJSOP

    Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    Forogar
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    I have just set up a new, slightly more powerful home development machine. I installed Windows 7 on it and then went ahead and installed VS 2015 Community Edition with no apparent issues. I am now debating whether that was a good idea and if I should have put VS 2013 on it, as I have on my old dev machine, since 2013 doesn't bug me about that darned cloud thingy all the time! ...and I had just got used the poor visual-quality of the UI only to have it get worse!

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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    • W Wombaticus

      Be warned - the install takes for bloody ever... I've twice installed it and twice uninstalled it (and, btw, uninstalling takes just as long...) - and am sticking to 2012 for now. It's ok, I guess, I just don't like the way it seems to push you towards the cloud all the time. Once it wouldn't even load because it said it couldn't connect to my Microsoft account... even though that resolved itself in the end, that was the final straw for me.

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      raddevus
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      Wombaticus wrote:

      I've twice installed it and twice uninstalled it

      My caveat is that uninstalling it can be impossible. I had it on a VM which would not run the uninstall at all. It would just blink away when you tried to uninstall. I needed diskspace so I finally just brute-force deleted it. At the time I Googled for answers about it and this problem of uninstalling is more prevalent and more painful than I'd ever expected.

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      • R realJSOP

        Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        I'd love to give you some relevant information but my office machine (the first 64bit dev machine in the building) has so much crap on it I can't identify the source of the problems. I do have constant lock ups that last around 90 seconds and this weird cmd.exe window keeps appearing!

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        • R realJSOP

          Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Leo56
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          I have VS 2015 installed on my Win 10 home PC - 3 Ghz quad core Athlon with 12 Gb RAM and it runs fine. Can't recall ever having any crashes. Also had it shoe-horned onto a low-end tablet (also Win 10 - 1Gb RAM and 16Gb storeage...) and, while slow(ish) I was somewhat surprised to find it was perfectly usable when partnered with a USB keyboard. I wouldn't voluntarily choose to go back to VS 2013. But then, I'm just a hobbyist tinkerer.. :-D

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          • R realJSOP

            Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            AndyKEnZ
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            I got one of those Windows 10 development environment VMs which include VS2015. Get a Windows 10 development environment - Windows app development[^] I used Hyper-V. I've been using VS2013 for a good while and had no problem opening and woking on my solutions using VS2015 in the VM. It's still too early for me to completely move to VS2015 for daily development though.

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            • R realJSOP

              Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              EinA
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              Doesn't work with Bitbucket (unless there is a workaround I can't find).

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              • G GuyThiebaut

                I use 2013 at home at at work, the only problems I have had with it are that occasionally intellisense stops functioning(a restart of VS2013 fixes it) - so I would go with VS2013.

                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                maze3
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                I cant tell if the first 2013 is a typo - else i read this as - 2013 intellisense breaks - so use 2013.

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                • M maze3

                  I cant tell if the first 2013 is a typo - else i read this as - 2013 intellisense breaks - so use 2013.

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                  GuyThiebaut
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                  You read it correctly - no typo and I did basically say that 2013 breaks, however from what I have read it breaks less frequently than 2015 so with the restart option I am okay with that.

                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                  • R realJSOP

                    Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    maze3
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                    VS2015 has ASP.Net 5 and MVC 6 (unless these can these can be loading in vs2013??) - which offer some benefits to previous version - mainly for me - build times reduced by new why server side code compiled. and Web API Controller + MVC Controller merged into one controller.

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      Update 1 ruined VS2015 for me. Constant crashes, windows that wouldn't open, etc. After uninstalling Update 1 everything was fine (again). The only problem I have with VS2015 is that it is slooooooow. Let me rephrase that: It's SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!! In case you didn't get the message, it's really very very very very very very very very SLOW. Oh, yeah, it's also slow.

                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      ISanti
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                      Update 2 is published and I tought it's time to install Update 1, but after reading your message I'll wait for VS 2016 CE. By the way... have you noticed that VS 2015 is slow?

                      Sorry for my bad English

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                      • R realJSOP

                        Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                        -----
                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        darktrick544
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                        Hell, I use VS2008 and VC++ 6.0. Yeah I have 2013 & 2015 installed, but jeez they are huge and I spend more time arguing with VS then coding.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Update 1 ruined VS2015 for me. Constant crashes, windows that wouldn't open, etc. After uninstalling Update 1 everything was fine (again). The only problem I have with VS2015 is that it is slooooooow. Let me rephrase that: It's SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!! In case you didn't get the message, it's really very very very very very very very very SLOW. Oh, yeah, it's also slow.

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          Tokinabo
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                          Don't forget to mention that it's also quiet slooooww! (Wrong settings? Wrong machine?)

                          There is no cloud! It's just someone else's machine...

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                            Doesn't work with Bitbucket (unless there is a workaround I can't find).

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                            Member 11447984
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                            It does, you have to create a local Git repository first. Add solution to source control > Git > Commit Create bitbucket project on their website. Click Sync > Paste in remote bitbucket URI from "I have an existing project" > Commit

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                            • R realJSOP

                              Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Slow Eddie
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                              I moved from VS2010 to VS2015 Community. Running on my Windows7 machines Home and work. I have had no problems at all. It has productivity tools available that I had not seen before and are extremely helpful. I am not sure about the slowness issue but I do not find it that way.

                              It's not the years... It's the miles.... Never trust a dog with red eyebrows....

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                Update 1 ruined VS2015 for me. Constant crashes, windows that wouldn't open, etc. After uninstalling Update 1 everything was fine (again). The only problem I have with VS2015 is that it is slooooooow. Let me rephrase that: It's SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!! In case you didn't get the message, it's really very very very very very very very very SLOW. Oh, yeah, it's also slow.

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                Herbie Mountjoy
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                                Agreed. It is slow. Also, like 2013, there is an issue with the cursor not being where you expect it to be. Not a show stopper but flaming annoying.

                                I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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                                • R realJSOP

                                  Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  _WinBase_
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                                  wish id stuck with VS2010

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                                  • W Wombaticus

                                    Be warned - the install takes for bloody ever... I've twice installed it and twice uninstalled it (and, btw, uninstalling takes just as long...) - and am sticking to 2012 for now. It's ok, I guess, I just don't like the way it seems to push you towards the cloud all the time. Once it wouldn't even load because it said it couldn't connect to my Microsoft account... even though that resolved itself in the end, that was the final straw for me.

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                                    George Tourtsinakis
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                                    I agree .I had terrible problems with visual studio 2015 and a lot of compatibility issues.I had projects in VS 2010 and VS 2012 and I was getting so many errors cause of compatibility.I think VS 2012 is the most mature.

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                                    • R realJSOP

                                      Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Only issue I had with VS2015 was that Blend 2015 doesn't support importing Photoshop PSD files; VS2013's Blend did ... so I'll keep both versions for now. Other than that I frequently run 4 or more instances with no issues (12GB; 3.4Ghz; quad core)

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                                      • R realJSOP

                                        Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        Yortw
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                                        I had a lot of stability problems pre "update 1", and with 3rd party addins loaded. Removing the addins and applying update 1 fixed almost all my issues. The only real paint point I have is that it's much slower for alot of things (refactoring/smart tags etc) than VS2013 was. When I say much, it probably isn't a lot in terms of actual time - but it's everytime you use those features, so it seems painful. Other than that, I quite like it now.

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          Well, I'm about to install Visual Studio on my restored win7 install. Is there anything about vs15 (community edition) I should know about? Should I bother installing VS2013 "just in case"?

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          David Carta
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                                          Just because of the speed issue, I stick with 2013....

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