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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I got an email today from the MS support team, saying they are going to review a change suggestion I support. I thought "I don't remember anything about it" - so I followed the link: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Oh yes - VS should open help and such like in the default browser instead of inside VS. I remember that now, but wasn't that a while ago? Oh yes. Four years. It's taken MS four years to notice suggestions - not to implement them, no. Not even to decide to schedule them for implementation. Four years to to go "Oh. Yes. maybe an idea, that. Let's think about it". Fer Elephants Sake MS! No wonder you don't make any impact in the mobile devices market if everything you do is over four years late...the competition will have released three or four updated devices by then! Does explain a lot about Windows Mobile though... :laugh:

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    raddevus
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    That is a great story and hilarious! :laugh: They are using AGILE processes. :cool:

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    • D Daniel Pfeffer

      Eventually, we all become our parents. :omg:

      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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      raddevus
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      Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

      Eventually, we all become our parents

      So true...and so funny in this example.

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        That is truly ironic when you consider that Bill and the Boys got going on the back of IBM not being able to move quickly enough :laugh:

        veni bibi saltavi

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        raddevus
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        yeah, remember when Bill was the young one racing back and forth through Albuquerque, NM and Seattle in his Porsche and getting arrested by the police? Rebel! File:Bill Gates mugshot.png - Wikimedia Commons[^] Now, he tells his limo drive to slow down on the highway. No rush to get anywhere. :)

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        • D David Lumm

          Wow. That is slow, even for microsoft? You get the impression that someone was bored at work and just started scrolling through the suggestion pile and coincidentally happened on yours... "Why didn't we think of that? Open web pages in a standards compliant browser? Hmmmm...." lol That being said, don't tell anyone, but Visual Studio is still one of my favourite IDEs... Shhh... It's our little secret... ;)

          Er, I can't think of a funny signature right now. How about a good fart to break the silence?

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          Dan Neely
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          Probably they tought of it on thier own, and then started searching through the suggestion bin to link it to community feedback but forgot to look at the date first. :doh:

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I got an email today from the MS support team, saying they are going to review a change suggestion I support. I thought "I don't remember anything about it" - so I followed the link: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Oh yes - VS should open help and such like in the default browser instead of inside VS. I remember that now, but wasn't that a while ago? Oh yes. Four years. It's taken MS four years to notice suggestions - not to implement them, no. Not even to decide to schedule them for implementation. Four years to to go "Oh. Yes. maybe an idea, that. Let's think about it". Fer Elephants Sake MS! No wonder you don't make any impact in the mobile devices market if everything you do is over four years late...the competition will have released three or four updated devices by then! Does explain a lot about Windows Mobile though... :laugh:

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            Quote:

            Here's what got me looking for this feature: I get this error when I try to open a jsoneditoronline link in the Visual Studio 2012 browser: "Error: Unsupported browser, IE9 or newer required. Please install the newest version of your browser." It's a pain not to be able to open this with at least the latest version of Internet Explorer (which I have installed!).

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              I got an email today from the MS support team, saying they are going to review a change suggestion I support. I thought "I don't remember anything about it" - so I followed the link: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Oh yes - VS should open help and such like in the default browser instead of inside VS. I remember that now, but wasn't that a while ago? Oh yes. Four years. It's taken MS four years to notice suggestions - not to implement them, no. Not even to decide to schedule them for implementation. Four years to to go "Oh. Yes. maybe an idea, that. Let's think about it". Fer Elephants Sake MS! No wonder you don't make any impact in the mobile devices market if everything you do is over four years late...the competition will have released three or four updated devices by then! Does explain a lot about Windows Mobile though... :laugh:

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              Dave Kreskowiak
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              Dude, I reported bugs in FDISK and FORMAT way back in 1988 that I still waiting for fixes on.

              A guide to posting questions on CodeProject

              Click this: Asking questions is a skill. Seriously, do it.
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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                I got an email today from the MS support team, saying they are going to review a change suggestion I support. I thought "I don't remember anything about it" - so I followed the link: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Oh yes - VS should open help and such like in the default browser instead of inside VS. I remember that now, but wasn't that a while ago? Oh yes. Four years. It's taken MS four years to notice suggestions - not to implement them, no. Not even to decide to schedule them for implementation. Four years to to go "Oh. Yes. maybe an idea, that. Let's think about it". Fer Elephants Sake MS! No wonder you don't make any impact in the mobile devices market if everything you do is over four years late...the competition will have released three or four updated devices by then! Does explain a lot about Windows Mobile though... :laugh:

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                Weylyn Cadwell
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                Maybe they implemented their suggestion inbox as a stack, rather than a queue!

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                • W Weylyn Cadwell

                  Maybe they implemented their suggestion inbox as a stack, rather than a queue!

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  I think it's a heap: as in "heap of trash"! :laugh:

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    That was their rapid response team.

                    This space for rent

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    You typoed "vapid".

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                    • D David Lumm

                      Wow. That is slow, even for microsoft? You get the impression that someone was bored at work and just started scrolling through the suggestion pile and coincidentally happened on yours... "Why didn't we think of that? Open web pages in a standards compliant browser? Hmmmm...." lol That being said, don't tell anyone, but Visual Studio is still one of my favourite IDEs... Shhh... It's our little secret... ;)

                      Er, I can't think of a funny signature right now. How about a good fart to break the silence?

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      David Lumm wrote:

                      Wow. That is slow, even for microsoft

                      Not even a little bit. There are thousands of bugs (*bugs*, mind) in Windows and Office that have been there for a couple of decades. They're too busy "fixing" the stuff that works, to get on with what their customers actually need.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • J Johnny J

                        Now you sound just like your father! (Or is it your mother?) :doh:

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        My mother-in-law. Give him a slap.

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                        • D Dave Kreskowiak

                          Dude, I reported bugs in FDISK and FORMAT way back in 1988 that I still waiting for fixes on.

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                          Click this: Asking questions is a skill. Seriously, do it.
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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Exactly -- but look on the bright side: they've "fixed" the desktop, the Start menu, toolbars, and menus. They've done such a good job of that that no-one cares about the uselessness of tables, numbered headings, styles, and master documents in Word, scrolling, equation editing, etc, in Excel, or any of the gazillion things wrong with the OS that haven't been fixed since Win 3 onward.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • W Weylyn Cadwell

                            Maybe they implemented their suggestion inbox as a stack, rather than a queue!

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            Or maybe they had a hard time accessing the bug list, because someone finally fulfilled so many people's dream of ramming the bluddy thing up their @rse.

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                              Or maybe they had a hard time accessing the bug list, because someone finally fulfilled so many people's dream of ramming the bluddy thing up their @rse.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              That's going to give him a surprise - he hasn't logged in since 2009... :laugh: Gets my 5 anyway - I was a DOS beta tester and they never fixed any of those either... :sigh:

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                That's going to give him a surprise - he hasn't logged in since 2009... :laugh: Gets my 5 anyway - I was a DOS beta tester and they never fixed any of those either... :sigh:

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                Good days, the DOS days -- they were nerds, we were nerds (and God knows there are bugs of my own that I never got around to fixing, so I could forgive fellow nerds). Nowadays, they're nothing like us, and they don't give a toss what we (and people in other professions) need. I dread to think what it's like to work in their head office.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  I got an email today from the MS support team, saying they are going to review a change suggestion I support. I thought "I don't remember anything about it" - so I followed the link: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Oh yes - VS should open help and such like in the default browser instead of inside VS. I remember that now, but wasn't that a while ago? Oh yes. Four years. It's taken MS four years to notice suggestions - not to implement them, no. Not even to decide to schedule them for implementation. Four years to to go "Oh. Yes. maybe an idea, that. Let's think about it". Fer Elephants Sake MS! No wonder you don't make any impact in the mobile devices market if everything you do is over four years late...the competition will have released three or four updated devices by then! Does explain a lot about Windows Mobile though... :laugh:

                                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                  Mycroft Holmes
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                                  And I thought 15 months for a response from Crystal Reports support was pretty pathetic. Oh wait mine was a SUPPORT request not a change suggestion.

                                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    David Lumm wrote:

                                    Wow. That is slow, even for microsoft

                                    Not even a little bit. There are thousands of bugs (*bugs*, mind) in Windows and Office that have been there for a couple of decades. They're too busy "fixing" the stuff that works, to get on with what their customers actually need.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    R Erasmus
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                                    The guys that knows how to fix most of the bugs probably left them already. That is the sad reality of leaving something for to long. Person that actually implemented or knew how to work with the technology leaves the company. To put a newb on it will cost far to expensive. Probably take a day+ to just get to the point where he/she can fix it. Hell, if I work on something and have to return to it later on it takes a while to get what I did.

                                    "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      I got an email today from the MS support team, saying they are going to review a change suggestion I support. I thought "I don't remember anything about it" - so I followed the link: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Oh yes - VS should open help and such like in the default browser instead of inside VS. I remember that now, but wasn't that a while ago? Oh yes. Four years. It's taken MS four years to notice suggestions - not to implement them, no. Not even to decide to schedule them for implementation. Four years to to go "Oh. Yes. maybe an idea, that. Let's think about it". Fer Elephants Sake MS! No wonder you don't make any impact in the mobile devices market if everything you do is over four years late...the competition will have released three or four updated devices by then! Does explain a lot about Windows Mobile though... :laugh:

                                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                      Fabio Franco
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                                      Once, it took two years for Microsoft to notice a bug I spotted on GDI+ that I reported via connect. They acknowledged bug, but said weren't going to fix it for the same old reasons. Go figure, it makes no sense to have the tools to report stuff if they are worth nothing.

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                                        The guys that knows how to fix most of the bugs probably left them already. That is the sad reality of leaving something for to long. Person that actually implemented or knew how to work with the technology leaves the company. To put a newb on it will cost far to expensive. Probably take a day+ to just get to the point where he/she can fix it. Hell, if I work on something and have to return to it later on it takes a while to get what I did.

                                        "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        "Later on", in my case, is less than a week.

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