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FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple

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  • L Lost User

    FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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    Rage
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    I really do not understand all the fuss. The FBI needs to access the data, Apple provide them with the data, period. Privacy protection from Apple ? mwawawahhh. To protect a terrorist ? mwamwaaaawawawaaawawahhh.

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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    • L Lost User

      FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      Clifford Nelson
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      Images of 1984...George Orwell got is too right.

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      • L Lost User

        FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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        ledtech3
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        Well they did have several Offers to help do it if they would drop the back door Fiasco.

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        • R regerteast

          THE FBI NEVER REALLY NEEDED APPLE THEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS SH*T THE WHOLE TIME JUST REIMAGE IT ONTO DUPLICATE HARDWARE AND KEEP TRYING ALL 10000 CODES... They were trying to set a precedent to terrorize other companies besides apple so they have a back door into everything :wtf: and it blew up in their faces with pubic opinion

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          Minion no 5
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          Not if the serial number of the flash is part of the seed for the encryption.

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          • L Lost User

            FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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            RedDk
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            [^] I swear, noone listens to me ... :^)

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Think about this logically... ...if Apple's phones were hackable, it would have been done by now. This would have been front page news the moment it happened... LONG before now. Apples doesn't want to take a chance that the court would order them to help.

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              ZurdoDev
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              Kevin Marois wrote:

              if Apple's phones were hackable, it would have been done by now.

              Everything is hackable. Just saying. :^)

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              • P PaulC

                Normally I would agree...But let's remember that RSA who's sole purpose is the encryption of data. Put a weakened algorithm into their product for 10 million dollars for the NSA. They have been found out and it hasn't hurt them. By all rights this company should be no more. But they are going strong.

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                Lost User
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                I'm not saying that no corporation would cave to the Feds... but Apple ain't RSA. Apple is MUCH LARGER and MUCH MORE PUBLIC. Not to mention they are under a much bigger microscope. Apple fanbois hold Apple to much higher standards than Microsoft is held by Microsoft fanbois. Secondly, Microsoft fanbois (in all their numbers) hold Apple to an almost impossible standard in the media. The average Joe (ie. non fanbois) knows who Apple is and might own one or two of their products. Most people don't know who or what RSA is.

                There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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                • L Lost User

                  FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  enhzflep
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                  The rumour mill is saying that its a simple case of a NAND mirroring attack. You remove the NAND chips from the board and then monkey about with them before re-applying them - most likely by simply soldering a socket to the board instead and then simply plugging/unplugging them. Here's a demo of the technique: NAND Mirroring Concept Demo[^] Pretty low-tech when you think about it. You can buy a (cheap-n-nasty) reflow workstation for a couple of hundred bucks and the rest of the equipment is worth about the same. No need for an SEM or any of that kind of malarky.

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    1. Who helped the FBI? (NSA, private tech firm, some random hacker, etc...) 1) Did they really crack the phone or was the FBI just trying to get out of a situation that was starting to head South on them?
                    1. Apple Did 2) Yes, Apple did. Neither the FBI nor Apple wanted this showdown. I bet Apple approached the FBI ad said "We'll let you in, but just this one time, and ONLY IF you drop this lawsuit and NEVER ask us again" Poof, they're in.

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                    Munchies_Matt
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                    Yep, and keep it quiet.

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                    • L Lost User

                      FBI hacks into terrorist’s iPhone without Apple[^]

                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                      Fueled By Decaff
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                      You mean they finally tried the word scrawled on the back as the password?

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                      • F Fueled By Decaff

                        You mean they finally tried the word scrawled on the back as the password?

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                        Herbie Mountjoy
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                        According to one news feed, Apple have aske dthe FBI how they did it so they can fix the encryption. Hmmm... I wonder what The FBI's response will be.....

                        I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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                        • H Herbie Mountjoy

                          According to one news feed, Apple have aske dthe FBI how they did it so they can fix the encryption. Hmmm... I wonder what The FBI's response will be.....

                          I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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                          Nicholas Marty
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                          They should just sue the FBI if they don't tell them :-\

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