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  • M megaadam

    I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks

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    I know you said the Bose noise canceling ones don't work for you. I use the Bose OE2 and about half the time don't play any music. Its just something to block the noise. When things get louder (on my motorcycle), I use these Amazon.com: Ear Plugs - 50 Pairs[^] to keep my sanity on long rides. Using actual ear plugs will have a two fold benefit. 1. The sound will go down significantly. 2. You're boss will notice and ask. Then you can specifically state that the work environment sucks. The book Peopleware [^] has data proving that these environments are not good for productivity. If enough of your co-workers start wearing them, maybe things will change! Good luck, switch jobs!

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    • M megaadam

      I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks

      Life is too shor

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      If the QC15s don't work for you (mine are at my home office at the moment - grumble grumble), then you must be extremely sensitive. Might be time to update resume :) When I am working at home, I'll put on the QC15s. Pisses the wife off to no end - can't hear her calling me, talking to me (I'm just off the kitchen). She has to tap me on the shoulder. Now when the children were smaller, I could not hear them, but I knew something was up when the house started shaking. :omg:

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      • M megaadam

        I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks

        Life is too shor

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        Colin Mullikin
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        I use a pair of these[^] while drumming. They keep the sound out pretty well. If your work environment is louder than a drum set at close proximity, you should probably just resort to your first solution. :laugh:

        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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        • M megaadam

          I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks

          Life is too shor

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          Take this opportunity to try something new :) Check out Bragi and their dash[^]. Hearables are going to be on the rise over the next few years and it might be interesting to try it. These have noise cancellation and many other features you will not get out of standard headphones. The price is $299, so it is comparable to most high quality noise cancellation headphones.

          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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          • M megaadam

            I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks

            Life is too shor

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            My standard about sound quality: M-Audio HDH-50 High Definition Headphones[^]

            it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.

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            • L Lost User

              Take this opportunity to try something new :) Check out Bragi and their dash[^]. Hearables are going to be on the rise over the next few years and it might be interesting to try it. These have noise cancellation and many other features you will not get out of standard headphones. The price is $299, so it is comparable to most high quality noise cancellation headphones.

              Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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              Colin Mullikin
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              I see nothing about noise cancelling for The Dash. Also, I refuse to buy anything with accessories like The Leash and The Clip. They somehow out-pretentious Apple...

              The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                If you ask your stewardess, she'll give you one for free. It only costs you an airline ticket.

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                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                If you ask your stewardess, she'll give you one for free. It only costs you an airline ticket.

                Not on Delta. They charge $2! Marc

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                • L Lost User

                  My standard about sound quality: M-Audio HDH-50 High Definition Headphones[^]

                  it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.

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                  Colin Mullikin
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                  Yeah, but how much do they cost in real money? :-\

                  The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                  • C Colin Mullikin

                    Yeah, but how much do they cost in real money? :-\

                    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                    170 canadian pesos should be like 130 US or something like that :) hmm they seem to be more expensive on the US amazon: Amazon.com: M-Audio HDH-50 High Definition Professional Studio Monitor Headphones: Musical Instruments[^]

                    it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.

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                    • L Lost User

                      170 canadian pesos should be like 130 US or something like that :) hmm they seem to be more expensive on the US amazon: Amazon.com: M-Audio HDH-50 High Definition Professional Studio Monitor Headphones: Musical Instruments[^]

                      it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.

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                      And this, my friend, is how even a basic understanding of international economics can prove that Amazon's pricing algorithm is evil.

                      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                        If you ask your stewardess, she'll give you one for free. It only costs you an airline ticket.

                        Not on Delta. They charge $2! Marc

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        Delta means difference, which you pay for. ;P

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                        • C Colin Mullikin

                          I see nothing about noise cancelling for The Dash. Also, I refuse to buy anything with accessories like The Leash and The Clip. They somehow out-pretentious Apple...

                          The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                          Then you did not look very well. I believe they branded it "Audio Transparency" (sort of the reverse concept, but it does cancellation as well). You need only click the link and read about it. The link is on the picture with the girl on a bicycle. Master Volume & Audio Transparency – Bragi Support Center[^]

                          Colin Mullikin wrote:

                          Also, I refuse to buy anything with accessories like The Leash and The Clip. They somehow out-pretentious Apple...

                          Then don't. I was making a suggestion to try something new. If you are hung up in how they brand things, in general I am guessing "new" things are not for you. FYI, the marketer of Bragi was the marketer of Beats, which is now owned by Apple. Yes, they brand things. They have to espeacially with "Hearables" (aka Hearing Aids). There is a stigmata with assisted hearing devices. By rebranding it all we can change that and honestly the world. So many people have poor hearing and would benefit from Hearing Aids but are embarressed. Morever, so many people could simply benefit from hearing enhancement. Hearing is part of life and enhancing it enhances your life. I guess my point is, you shouldn't get too hung up in branding. That is just marketing. Look at the actually functionality and effectiveness of devices. I could careless if it is called poostick. If it does what I need, I am interested.

                          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                          • M megaadam

                            I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks

                            Life is too shor

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                            Mike Hankey
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                            I use a Sennheiser wireless headphone[^] and really like them. They make several styles to suit.

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                            • M megaadam

                              Thanks! I will definitely look that up and try it.

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                              Here you, Meg. http://www.ravib.com/download/pinknoise1hr.wav[^] (310 MB) /ravi

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                                No thank you on the pink noise. I had to look this up and I had to listen to a few samples, and that kind of noise would make me commit suicide.

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                                Try this one[^].  It's the 1 hour sample I created and use. /ravi

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                                  And this, my friend, is how even a basic understanding of international economics can prove that Amazon's pricing algorithm is evil.

                                  The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                  I use a pair of THESE[^] for music. Check out just how evil Amazon's pricing is! :omg: I do use a cheaper pair of Sennheiser for TV/video etc., when I can't be arsed to set up the electrostatic amp.

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                                    Then you did not look very well. I believe they branded it "Audio Transparency" (sort of the reverse concept, but it does cancellation as well). You need only click the link and read about it. The link is on the picture with the girl on a bicycle. Master Volume & Audio Transparency – Bragi Support Center[^]

                                    Colin Mullikin wrote:

                                    Also, I refuse to buy anything with accessories like The Leash and The Clip. They somehow out-pretentious Apple...

                                    Then don't. I was making a suggestion to try something new. If you are hung up in how they brand things, in general I am guessing "new" things are not for you. FYI, the marketer of Bragi was the marketer of Beats, which is now owned by Apple. Yes, they brand things. They have to espeacially with "Hearables" (aka Hearing Aids). There is a stigmata with assisted hearing devices. By rebranding it all we can change that and honestly the world. So many people have poor hearing and would benefit from Hearing Aids but are embarressed. Morever, so many people could simply benefit from hearing enhancement. Hearing is part of life and enhancing it enhances your life. I guess my point is, you shouldn't get too hung up in branding. That is just marketing. Look at the actually functionality and effectiveness of devices. I could careless if it is called poostick. If it does what I need, I am interested.

                                    Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                                    N_tro_P wrote:

                                    I believe they branded it "Audio Transparency" (sort of the reverse concept, but it does cancellation as well).

                                    Renaming something that is an accepted industry term doesn't exactly help their pretentiousness (and is sometimes done to hide a sub-par feature), but I accept that they do seem to have some form of noise cancellation.

                                    N_tro_P wrote:

                                    FYI, the marketer of Bragi was the marketer of Beats

                                    Hopefully this relationship doesn't extend to the quality of their products. My aversion to the branding is more to the use of "The" in front of everything, which may be related to my natural aversion to using "The" due to my close proximity to "The" Ohio State University. X|

                                    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                      I use a pair of THESE[^] for music. Check out just how evil Amazon's pricing is! :omg: I do use a cheaper pair of Sennheiser for TV/video etc., when I can't be arsed to set up the electrostatic amp.

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                                      I use these[^] for music in my office, but they aren't really a good suggestion for OP, because they are open ear.

                                      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                      • C Colin Mullikin

                                        N_tro_P wrote:

                                        I believe they branded it "Audio Transparency" (sort of the reverse concept, but it does cancellation as well).

                                        Renaming something that is an accepted industry term doesn't exactly help their pretentiousness (and is sometimes done to hide a sub-par feature), but I accept that they do seem to have some form of noise cancellation.

                                        N_tro_P wrote:

                                        FYI, the marketer of Bragi was the marketer of Beats

                                        Hopefully this relationship doesn't extend to the quality of their products. My aversion to the branding is more to the use of "The" in front of everything, which may be related to my natural aversion to using "The" due to my close proximity to "The" Ohio State University. X|

                                        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                        Colin Mullikin wrote:

                                        Renaming something that is an accepted industry term doesn't exactly help their pretentiousness (and is sometimes done to hide a sub-par feature), but I accept that they do seem to have some form of noise cancellation.

                                        They had to since it is not just noise cancellation. In fact it is far superior IMO. Can your noise cancelation headphones enhance the voice of the person talking in front of you or just cancel it? The "Audio Transparency" does both.

                                        Colin Mullikin wrote:

                                        Hopefully this relationship doesn't extend to the quality of their products.

                                        The relationship is pure marketing, not product as I understand it and it is over. The man left Beats to form Bragi.

                                        Colin Mullikin wrote:

                                        My aversion to the branding is more to the use of "The" in front of everything, which may be related to my natural aversion to using "The" due to my close proximity to "The" Ohio State University. X|

                                        I understand what you mean, but also understand that branding is very important to the success of a product. The fact is, most people buy stuff on whims and with little to no knowledge of the details. "Oohhhh pretty. TAKE MY MONEY" I (as well as most in this community) are not typically part of that heard. This being a tech forum puts us in a bucket of different folks. Marketing may annoy us, but you should not deny its purpose and better yet try to understand how it works. That is if you want to have continual growth (career, your company etc.)

                                        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                                          I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks

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                                          Look for headphones by professional filmmakers while shooting. Well, the sound guys...not necessarily the cameraman. The SONY MDR-7506 is popular (and $99), but anything in the MDR series would probably do. Not noise cancelling so much as very attenuating, and if you play anything through them (music, etc), they are even more so. Oh, and they're comfortable. At least I've found them so.

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