Headphones
-
I use these[^] for music in my office, but they aren't really a good suggestion for OP, because they are open ear.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
-
N_tro_P wrote:
I believe they branded it "Audio Transparency" (sort of the reverse concept, but it does cancellation as well).
Renaming something that is an accepted industry term doesn't exactly help their pretentiousness (and is sometimes done to hide a sub-par feature), but I accept that they do seem to have some form of noise cancellation.
N_tro_P wrote:
FYI, the marketer of Bragi was the marketer of Beats
Hopefully this relationship doesn't extend to the quality of their products. My aversion to the branding is more to the use of "The" in front of everything, which may be related to my natural aversion to using "The" due to my close proximity to "The" Ohio State University. X|
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
Colin Mullikin wrote:
Renaming something that is an accepted industry term doesn't exactly help their pretentiousness (and is sometimes done to hide a sub-par feature), but I accept that they do seem to have some form of noise cancellation.
They had to since it is not just noise cancellation. In fact it is far superior IMO. Can your noise cancelation headphones enhance the voice of the person talking in front of you or just cancel it? The "Audio Transparency" does both.
Colin Mullikin wrote:
Hopefully this relationship doesn't extend to the quality of their products.
The relationship is pure marketing, not product as I understand it and it is over. The man left Beats to form Bragi.
Colin Mullikin wrote:
My aversion to the branding is more to the use of "The" in front of everything, which may be related to my natural aversion to using "The" due to my close proximity to "The" Ohio State University. X|
I understand what you mean, but also understand that branding is very important to the success of a product. The fact is, most people buy stuff on whims and with little to no knowledge of the details. "Oohhhh pretty. TAKE MY MONEY" I (as well as most in this community) are not typically part of that heard. This being a tech forum puts us in a bucket of different folks. Marketing may annoy us, but you should not deny its purpose and better yet try to understand how it works. That is if you want to have continual growth (career, your company etc.)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
Look for headphones by professional filmmakers while shooting. Well, the sound guys...not necessarily the cameraman. The SONY MDR-7506 is popular (and $99), but anything in the MDR series would probably do. Not noise cancelling so much as very attenuating, and if you play anything through them (music, etc), they are even more so. Oh, and they're comfortable. At least I've found them so.
We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.
-
Colin Mullikin wrote:
Renaming something that is an accepted industry term doesn't exactly help their pretentiousness (and is sometimes done to hide a sub-par feature), but I accept that they do seem to have some form of noise cancellation.
They had to since it is not just noise cancellation. In fact it is far superior IMO. Can your noise cancelation headphones enhance the voice of the person talking in front of you or just cancel it? The "Audio Transparency" does both.
Colin Mullikin wrote:
Hopefully this relationship doesn't extend to the quality of their products.
The relationship is pure marketing, not product as I understand it and it is over. The man left Beats to form Bragi.
Colin Mullikin wrote:
My aversion to the branding is more to the use of "The" in front of everything, which may be related to my natural aversion to using "The" due to my close proximity to "The" Ohio State University. X|
I understand what you mean, but also understand that branding is very important to the success of a product. The fact is, most people buy stuff on whims and with little to no knowledge of the details. "Oohhhh pretty. TAKE MY MONEY" I (as well as most in this community) are not typically part of that heard. This being a tech forum puts us in a bucket of different folks. Marketing may annoy us, but you should not deny its purpose and better yet try to understand how it works. That is if you want to have continual growth (career, your company etc.)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
N_tro_P wrote:
They had to since it is not just noise cancellation. In fact it is far superior IMO. Can your noise cancelation headphones enhance the voice of the person talking in front of you or just cancel it? The "Audio Transparency" does both.
After re-reading the whole page on (The?) Audio Transparency, it seems they don't actually do active noise cancellation (or at least there is no mention of it). They rely on the nature of it being an in-ear headphone to block out ambient noise, but they can, as you say, amplify that ambient noise so that you can hear it. EDIT: Another, unrelated problem I have with this thing is the battery life. Three hours is not very long, and for the application that OP (and many others responding to this thread) is looking for, probably a deal breaker.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
-
N_tro_P wrote:
They had to since it is not just noise cancellation. In fact it is far superior IMO. Can your noise cancelation headphones enhance the voice of the person talking in front of you or just cancel it? The "Audio Transparency" does both.
After re-reading the whole page on (The?) Audio Transparency, it seems they don't actually do active noise cancellation (or at least there is no mention of it). They rely on the nature of it being an in-ear headphone to block out ambient noise, but they can, as you say, amplify that ambient noise so that you can hear it. EDIT: Another, unrelated problem I have with this thing is the battery life. Three hours is not very long, and for the application that OP (and many others responding to this thread) is looking for, probably a deal breaker.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
Colin Mullikin wrote:
After re-reading the whole page on (The?) Audio Transparency, it seems they don't actually do active noise cancellation (or at least there is no mention of it). They rely on the nature of it being an in-ear headphone to block out ambient noise, but they can, as you say, amplify that ambient noise so that you can hear it.
Yeah I thought their description was more oriented that way, but it does noise cancelation as well. Go back to the main page where the "Audio Transparency" is. They say "Hear the world around you, or swipe to mute it". Trust me, they are cancelling the ambient sound if you set it that way. I am not sure how effective it is, but it is there. So little bit of info I haven't said yet, but I work for Starkey Hearing Technologies who recently announced a partnership with Bragi. As an an engineer who works (and plays with) hearing aids, trust me in that the noise cancellation has very little to do with being in the ear to block. There is massive engineering in the feature. In fact, here at Starkey we have different features around it even. For example, picture yourself driving down the road with your window partially open. There is a loud wind noise coming from it. The right ear is however not receiving the same wind attenuation and the signals received can be used to filter out the undesired wind noise in the left ear (and even the right but with a different filter of course). Honestly, I think most of the Noise Cancelation headphones I see are cheating. They are using over the ear headphones to reduce any filtering they in fact need to do. While it works, they end up very bulky. A small hearing aid must have the calculations of the cancellation signal much more accurate.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
-
Sure, help yourself! :-D https://soundcloud.com/ravibee[^] /ravi
My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com
Wow! I rather liked this one: https://soundcloud.com/ravibee/trying-to-be-gilmour[^]
-
Wow! I rather liked this one: https://soundcloud.com/ravibee/trying-to-be-gilmour[^]
-
Colin Mullikin wrote:
After re-reading the whole page on (The?) Audio Transparency, it seems they don't actually do active noise cancellation (or at least there is no mention of it). They rely on the nature of it being an in-ear headphone to block out ambient noise, but they can, as you say, amplify that ambient noise so that you can hear it.
Yeah I thought their description was more oriented that way, but it does noise cancelation as well. Go back to the main page where the "Audio Transparency" is. They say "Hear the world around you, or swipe to mute it". Trust me, they are cancelling the ambient sound if you set it that way. I am not sure how effective it is, but it is there. So little bit of info I haven't said yet, but I work for Starkey Hearing Technologies who recently announced a partnership with Bragi. As an an engineer who works (and plays with) hearing aids, trust me in that the noise cancellation has very little to do with being in the ear to block. There is massive engineering in the feature. In fact, here at Starkey we have different features around it even. For example, picture yourself driving down the road with your window partially open. There is a loud wind noise coming from it. The right ear is however not receiving the same wind attenuation and the signals received can be used to filter out the undesired wind noise in the left ear (and even the right but with a different filter of course). Honestly, I think most of the Noise Cancelation headphones I see are cheating. They are using over the ear headphones to reduce any filtering they in fact need to do. While it works, they end up very bulky. A small hearing aid must have the calculations of the cancellation signal much more accurate.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
Yes, I know quite a bit of technology goes in to active noise cancellation, but I also know that a decent pair of in-ear headphones (I own these[^]) can do a pretty good job of muting the outside world with only good sleeve design and no audio processing.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
Hi, I have purchased a pair of these[^] few years ago for the same reason and they proved excellent. The only drawback is that they are tight so it takes time to get used to them and in warm ambient you will probably sweat under cans. You may check user reviews at Amazon before the purchase. Actually, any better closed-type headphones should help. Hope this helps, Julijan
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
-
Sure, help yourself! :-D https://soundcloud.com/ravibee[^] /ravi
My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com
-
Sure, help yourself! :-D https://soundcloud.com/ravibee[^] /ravi
My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com
That's very cool, Ravi. Listened to several. Got Slow Blues in A going now, sweet. It's not good though as it makes me want to leave my desk, go home and crank up the amp. Been too long since I have drenched myself in the warm river of tube distortion. :thumbsup:
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
I also have the same problem. Ended up picking up a pair of Audiotechnica Ath-anc 9b over ear. Just as good as Bose and half the price. I also quit my job and left the noisy startup I was working at!
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
I have these at work [^] but the noise cancellation is not enough to block the noise from coworkers so I listen to ocean sounds also when I use the headphones [^]. But the main problem for me and those headphones is that they are to hot to wear for long periods. At home I have these [^] and can work for hours on end listening to ocean sounds at lowish volume - just enought to block my loud wife and children :)
-
That's very cool, Ravi. Listened to several. Got Slow Blues in A going now, sweet. It's not good though as it makes me want to leave my desk, go home and crank up the amp. Been too long since I have drenched myself in the warm river of tube distortion. :thumbsup:
MKJCP wrote:
It's not good though as it makes me want to leave my desk, go home and crank up the amp. Been too long since I have drenched myself in the warm river of tube distortion.
Ha ha! Thanks! :) /ravi
My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
go to soma.fm, there are a bunch of channels, but by far the best for me is groovesalad, almost no vocals, nice, relaxing music with a bit of a beat. Also, spend at least $50 on a good pair of in-ear earphones, groovesalad will block most everything out (I got some bower and wilkins 200 dollar earphones, but you might not be that picky)
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
I found the large shell soft foam style for shooting to be the best if you wear them a long time. I too cannot use noise cancellation headphones, they produce a cycle hum that drives me batty (The good BOSE ones, in this case). But the ones I have for shooting work nice. Although, coming into the office with those, some shooting glasses, fatigues, and a long package... Could get you "searched" or otherwise cause a panic. (You might even get an offer to be an Uber driver in MI, LOL)
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
Whale song? Ocean Surf? Pink Noise? You guys must be from the West Coast! It's not your earphones it is what you are listening to! Crank up some ACDC, James Gang (Thirds album - made loud to be played loud),The Who (Who's next would be favorite), Derek and the Dominoes, Neil Young, etc. (you get my drift...):cool: You won't hear anything else while listening. Or for some time after you stop for that matter. ;P Because music activates a different part of your brain than speech and logic it dose not interfere with your productivity. I went to BestBuy and got some "JAM" model HX-HP420A (house brand I guess - wireless) cheap and a Bluetooth usb plug-in and they do the trick.
A giraffe is a horse spec'd by a committee and created by an Agile team...
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
I have used a combination of Pioneer SE-NC31C-K earbuds and an app called SimplyNoise (available as a webpage too) to block out ambient noises so I can concentrate. The ear tips make a decent mechanical seal and the noise canceling is very effective, especially at slightly higher volume. A fairly low volume is all that is needed to block out most conversation while still being able to hear people addressing me directly.
-
I need a pair of headphones! And I had to resist a powerful impulse to put HPQOTD as a subject... My multinational megacorp employer has decide it will be a magical productivity boost to move all departments into large open offices, where images from Orson Welles' The Trial[^] come to my mind. I am extremely sensitive to noise (cannot concentrate) and on bad days the first solution I think of is a decent XXL baseball bat. The second idea, to constantly walk around to remind colleagues of their acoustically pollutive behavior will soon make me the black sheep of the office floor. So I often listen to music, whale-song, ocean surf etc in my cheapo headphones. Not good enuff. I can distinguish seven conversations through the soundtrack. The "noise-cancelling" models from BOSE etc are not doing much to human noises so I think I really need something that blocks noise out mechanically. So they need to be super tight and extremely comfortable. No contradiction there eh! Cordless would be nifty but arent they often suffering from crackling etc? I would like decent sound quality but mega-hifi is not important. Suggestions, ideas, your experiences? Or even mental techniques? Thanks
Life is too shor
I messed around with several different types. I found some that worked, but only in the quiet office I WAS in. They don't work where I'm at now, at least not all the time. The place I work at now has low rise cubicals (they are only chest high if you're standing) and more than one department on the floor. One thing I've learned that needs to be considered is the amount of noise that escapes them. I mean, if you turn the volume up on music you can distract others, which is not ideal. You want to be listening to something loud without having it heard outside the head set (i.e. the old walkman ones won't be a good choice).
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
