Why do people not respect the rules?
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Or are you saying that we don't just ban every word in the language, but also all jocularity?
not at all Mark - I agree with PJ, that there's a place here on CP for sex, politics & religion, and thats where some of the recent posts belong
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You could ban every word in the English (and every other) language, by following the rule you're suggesting.
certainly you could, but I wasnt aware I was suggesting 'banning' it or jocularity - its all about context isnt it - in the lounge (context), I'd tolerate a frank, adult, educated discussion on any/all words that others would find inflammatory (but even having a frank/adult/educated discussion wouldnt guarantee that someone else wouldnt take offence :-( )
Well, I doubt that "infidel" is inflammatory to anyone who's watched Carry On movies -- and, since it's a foreign word, wouldn't banning it be racist, unless English synonyms were also banned? Censorship is a can of worms that we really should avoid opening. This group is global. If you start letting everyone introduce (and probably cause fights about) words that go against their religious and/or political preferences, we really will have few words left to use. ... But there would be no-one coming here to use them, so I suppose it's yin-yangy enough. I don't use words that offend me, obviously, but if I inadvertently use a word that offends you, Fred in Dubrovnik, Charlie in Patagonia, or John-Boy in Japan, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Good example, here: An American in another group (must be over 20 years ago, now) decided to take a poke at me for using the word "Chinaman". I had to point out to him that I was an Englishman, who lived West of the Dutchmen, East of the Welshmen and Irishmen, North of the Frenchmen, and South of the Scotsmen -- and that his people's mistreatment of several immigrant races, and the verbal taboos that ensued from it, had **** all to do with me. BanningWords==badIdea // IMO
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Well, I doubt that "infidel" is inflammatory to anyone who's watched Carry On movies -- and, since it's a foreign word, wouldn't banning it be racist, unless English synonyms were also banned? Censorship is a can of worms that we really should avoid opening. This group is global. If you start letting everyone introduce (and probably cause fights about) words that go against their religious and/or political preferences, we really will have few words left to use. ... But there would be no-one coming here to use them, so I suppose it's yin-yangy enough. I don't use words that offend me, obviously, but if I inadvertently use a word that offends you, Fred in Dubrovnik, Charlie in Patagonia, or John-Boy in Japan, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Good example, here: An American in another group (must be over 20 years ago, now) decided to take a poke at me for using the word "Chinaman". I had to point out to him that I was an Englishman, who lived West of the Dutchmen, East of the Welshmen and Irishmen, North of the Frenchmen, and South of the Scotsmen -- and that his people's mistreatment of several immigrant races, and the verbal taboos that ensued from it, had **** all to do with me. BanningWords==badIdea // IMO
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yep, its a can of worms mate - I guess Im just suggesting 'be careful, lest fights start' - not banning
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yes, I wondered if it was just me being sensitive and thought "I'll bite my tongue" - but the post beginning with 'Hello Infidels' is just wrong, anywhere, in my books - it doesnt matter that the poster probably has used that to mean 'unbeliever of Pastafarian', there's just so many other ways it can be mis-interpreted
You mean it got your hackles up and now you are pissed off that it turned out to be a false alarm. :-D
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche
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At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
I have got to apologise for the Flying Spaghetti Monster posting, I thought I was posting an amusing bit of news and did not consider the religious angle relevant. Actually I did not consider the religious angle at all! And you are correct it should have been posted in the SB.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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yes, I wondered if it was just me being sensitive and thought "I'll bite my tongue" - but the post beginning with 'Hello Infidels' is just wrong, anywhere, in my books - it doesnt matter that the poster probably has used that to mean 'unbeliever of Pastafarian', there's just so many other ways it can be mis-interpreted
Why do some people here remind me characters from from "Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle" :laugh:
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche
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M Sukhdeep wrote:
But if you would stop being a Mike Hunt, I wouldn't need to piss in your cornflakes. Plus, you being able to gargle such a viscous liquid is quite impressive.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I have got to apologise for the Flying Spaghetti Monster posting, I thought I was posting an amusing bit of news and did not consider the religious angle relevant. Actually I did not consider the religious angle at all! And you are correct it should have been posted in the SB.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
I have got to apologise for the Flying Spaghetti Monster posting, I thought I was posting an amusing bit of news and did not consider the religious angle relevant. Actually I did not consider the religious angle at all! And you are correct it should have been posted in the SB.
Bullshit. It was and still is a fine post. Some people taking the piss and enjoying life. I didn't even click through as I basically knew what it was about. I did click through the responses as there is generally some good and funny responses to read. Unfortunately the god botherers turned up, spoilt it for all and as always I couldn't walk away from stupid. Not sorry and it was Sunday morning so sober as I took the daughter to soccer.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
I haven't been around here lately, except to drop in briefly, but I haven't seen anything a bit offensive in the Lounge, Pete. I know you're not an alarmist, so I'm wondering what I missed. The Lounge has always welcomed humor and especially satire, if such is presented in a tasteful manner, without personal rancor. I haven't spotted anything that exceeds the bounds of propriety lately. But if it's happening, then I agree completely that such posts belong in the Soapbox.
Will Rogers never met me.
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You mean it got your hackles up and now you are pissed off that it turned out to be a false alarm. :-D
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche
hah ! - 'you wish' and 'not at all' - all Im suggesting is if people didnt see that your post was intended as humorous, there would be all out war, and thus there's a need for 'care'
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I have got to apologise for the Flying Spaghetti Monster posting, I thought I was posting an amusing bit of news and did not consider the religious angle relevant. Actually I did not consider the religious angle at all! And you are correct it should have been posted in the SB.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
it should have been posted in the SB
I'd disagree - it was a good and innocuous post. Funny as well. It became SB material only when it was hijacked by Our Resident Troll. You aren't responsible for what anyone else does with your thread - and if the troll hadn't been fed, it wouldn't have been a problem at all.
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Stop behaving like a troll, and we'll stop treating you like a troll. Seriously. I could name two currently-contributing members who were dreadful trolls, in past lives. Now they just enjoy the Lounge (despite still pulling the googling in an effort to *win!* thing, now and then). Stop the sht1, and people will stop disliking you.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Stop the sht1, and people will stop disliking you
Good advice Mark, you should listen to it.
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He gets special allowance because he is a fellow countryman of Maunders and possibly a personal friend. Maunder does on occasion have to remind him to control his language, but as in all things, the rules are not applied evenly.
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I have got to apologise for the Flying Spaghetti Monster posting, I thought I was posting an amusing bit of news and did not consider the religious angle relevant. Actually I did not consider the religious angle at all! And you are correct it should have been posted in the SB.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
I think it's a fine post. In fact it gave me some ideas too. Solemnizing weddings is something we never thought of. I personally know some of the guys who created the Dinkoism spoof. I shall pass on this idea of petitioning a court to authorize our clergy to solemnize weddings. I would love to see the judge's face when the petition comes up for hearing. Thank you :)
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche
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I have got to apologise for the Flying Spaghetti Monster posting, I thought I was posting an amusing bit of news and did not consider the religious angle relevant. Actually I did not consider the religious angle at all! And you are correct it should have been posted in the SB.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Hi Mycroft, I think the day we lot cannot discuss the divinity of the cookie-monster is the day we have lost some of our own divinity, and, possibly, some of our cookies. cheers, Bill
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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Why do some people here remind me characters from from "Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle" :laugh:
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche
Sahir Shah wrote:
Why do some people here remind me characters from from "Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle"
Because you also have poor taste in movies ?
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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He gets special allowance because he is a fellow countryman of Maunders and possibly a personal friend. Maunder does on occasion have to remind him to control his language, but as in all things, the rules are not applied evenly.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
He gets special allowance because he is a fellow countryman of Maunders and possibly a personal friend.
We've had a beer twice and a coffee once. Not quite personal friends.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Maunder does on occasion have to remind him to control his language, but as in all things, the rules are not applied evenly.
Spot on the money. Life's not always fair, people don't have to like it but that is what happens everywhere.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
I have got to apologise for the Flying Spaghetti Monster posting, I thought I was posting an amusing bit of news and did not consider the religious angle relevant. Actually I did not consider the religious angle at all! And you are correct it should have been posted in the SB.
Bullshit. It was and still is a fine post. Some people taking the piss and enjoying life. I didn't even click through as I basically knew what it was about. I did click through the responses as there is generally some good and funny responses to read. Unfortunately the god botherers turned up, spoilt it for all and as always I couldn't walk away from stupid. Not sorry and it was Sunday morning so sober as I took the daughter to soccer.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
Some people taking the piss and enjoying life
My thoughts exactly.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
The same reason that on a quiet Sunday morning while I was driving at 20mph through a 20mph area some clot decides that they have to overtake me because they need to travel at 40mph. It used to be known as antisocial behaviour - I think its called entrepreneurialism nowadays.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Sahir Shah wrote:
Why do some people here remind me characters from from "Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle"
Because you also have poor taste in movies ?
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
I did not say it's a great movie. But I found the scene where the lady gets the two of them thrown off the plane for looking brown really hilarious. You probably don't like it because it's too close to home for comfort :-D
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche
