Why do people not respect the rules?
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When I was (a lot) younger I used to drive fairly fast everywhere as I was always in a hurry to get to the next exciting part of my life. One day, after having decided that driving fast on narrow English residential streets with cars parked on both sides of the road might not be a good idea, I was going, for the first time I remember, slightly under the 30 mph limit. I saw a small ball bounce out into the street just ahead of me. I hit the brakes and skidded the car sideways and actually stopped with my door just an inch away from the small boy who ran out between the parked cars in single-minded pursuit of the ball. He stopped, yelled in surprise, fell over and started to cry. His frantic mother came running out after him and I thought, "I am in trouble here!" However, she yelled at the idiot kid, smacked him (the good old days of direct parental feedback), picked him up, mouthed a tearful "Thank you!" to me and ran back inside with him. It took me a couple of minutes to straighten up my car (how I didn't hit the cars parked either side of me I don't know) and about twenty minutes to stop shaking. There are definite reasons for some rules and they should definitely be followed - all the time! PS. It made me feel good about following the rules for once in my life until I found out later that that little boy grew up to be a lawyer! ;) Well, you can't win 'em all!
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My only car accident happened a little more than 6 months ago, keeping the safety distance AND respecting the limit - barely. I crashed behind a distracted girl that thought at the last moment that she had to brake in order to wait to invade the other lane to enter the gas station. I had a spli second distraction checking the speed AND the rear view mirror as the womand behind me already almost crashed into me twice in two subsequent roundabouts so I was a little edgy... when I saw the aforemetioned girl with her car fully stopped in the middle of the road. I braked with all I had but still came crashing behind her, luckily I had little remaining speed and I still managed to take 5.000€ of damagers to my car. Now I drive 10 km/h UNDER the limit and those who want to overtake are very free to do it as they please. Just the other day I was almost involved in what could have been a nightmarish accident - the guy behind me was in a stupid hurry overtaking anyone and travelling basically in the middle of the road, half car in one lane and half in the opposite... while approaching a 90° curve... when from that curve another Darwin Award candidate came from the opposite direction at 90 mph with a very coarse trajectory that placed him at the extreme border of its lane. And then guy behind me was at most at 50 cm from my behind so if those two crashed frontally I could have been involved without having done anything.
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Garth J Lancaster wrote:
the post beginning with 'Hello Infidels' is just wrong
I can't even find that one.
Garth J Lancaster wrote:
it doesnt matter that the poster probably has used that to mean 'unbeliever of Pastafarian', there's just so many other ways it can be mis-interpreted
It absolutely does matter that the poster probably has used that to mean 'unbeliever of Pastafarian'. You could ban every word in the English (and every other) language, by following the rule you're suggesting. "If a word could be misinterpreted, it is banned from the Lounge!" An entire genre of jokes is about making the listener think/feel one thing, then turning it around, and that is what this was. Or are you saying that we don't just ban every word in the language, but also all jocularity? (I've gotta admit, though, that there have been people whom I wished had been banned from telling jokes, in here)
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You certainly get my up vote. As thought anyone gives a d----
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BURN THE WITCH!
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How dare you! Why not the BURN THE WARLOCK? Sexism rears its ugly head.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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He gets special allowance because he is a fellow countryman of Maunders and possibly a personal friend. Maunder does on occasion have to remind him to control his language, but as in all things, the rules are not applied evenly.
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At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.
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I agree and I have seen the same issue you are discussing in a wide range of forums. The underlying reason for this is that the Internet provides primarily anonymous communications on forums as no one has to sign with their real names. This and other technologies have led to a sociological breakdown of traditional courtesies over the years (among other things) as well as traditional barriers that many people adhered to, even the rascals who make disrespectful and hurtful comments to others. As a result, a basic self-censorship was imposed. This is not the case anymore as many people now feel that they can say anything they want and get away with it. In addition, many forums are no longer being moderated for proper postings and the people who would abuse such a privilege know it...
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At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
And what are the rules for those that slip through for the rest of us? For example, in our company, we have a HUGE rule. When it comes toe email communications, if a message can be interpreted in multiple ways, EVERYONE MUST interpret it in the MOST POSITIVE way! The reason is simple... We cannot correct what was written or sent. we may not know the ultimate intent of the email, and we MANY TIMES have misinterpreted something and got bent out of shape over it. So, AFAIAC, I would suggest we have a rule that says if someone posts something you don't like, that you do not respond to it, and that you are welcome to notify a moderator to deal with it. They will slip through. I accidentally asked a question about an article I wrote. I was not trying to create a Click Bait conversation, I was curious. And I was TOLD not to do this, and I wont do it again. You get used to talking to people in this forum as friends. And sometimes, one conversation you might have with your other friends makes it into the forum. It is the death knell of the forums if that is all we get, and we don't moderate. But PLEASE do not suggest we ban words like Infidel, etc. The answer to free speech you don't like is more speech. Or a moderator email with a reminder of the appropriate place, and a delete. In general, it happens, just like emails that sound worse than they were intended to be. It is how we RESPOND to them that determines the type of community that we are!
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At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
What I can never understand is why people use "children" as the reason to avoid talk of sex, as though pre-pubescent children would really care either way. Personally, I think using kids to justify avoiding taboo subjects is just a proxy of adults' personal embarrassment.
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yes, I wondered if it was just me being sensitive and thought "I'll bite my tongue" - but the post beginning with 'Hello Infidels' is just wrong, anywhere, in my books - it doesnt matter that the poster probably has used that to mean 'unbeliever of Pastafarian', there's just so many other ways it can be mis-interpreted
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You certainly get my up vote. As thought anyone gives a d----
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I'm more than aware that people only voted for that posting because of the line at the bottom.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
The title of the OP was abstract. While I don't lurk here enough to be able to suggest why "those specific people" don't follow the rules, in general rules create a context that allows those possessing a resource to devote themselves to its enjoyment, rather than to its defense. In general "street smart" people are experts at knowing how far the rules can be ignored before the system curbs their behavior. In the interim, they can have a lot of fun (and amass a fair amount of wealth) indulging their egos at our expense. So: thanks for your vigilance!
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Its not about winning Mark, its about putting you right after you turned a discussion into an argument by acting like a jerk, as you usually do. Take your own advice.
Putting me right? All I did was mention frappe, and you replied with this: "Café Frappe sounds American and I have never seen these in the UK or France (or Luxembourg or Belgium for that matter" So I (having drunk the damned things all over Europe) told you what a frappe is, and what a cafe frappe is, after which you googled (very badly, getting very incorrect results that claimed that frappe is an American invention) and started up with the "Oh, I've lived in France for years, so I know better than you what a frappe is!" bollocks. If you can't talk to people without googling, try not talking at all -- and also try saying "Oh, I never knew that" instead of googling in an effort to get one up on the person you're talking to. If you can't behave, why don't you just stay in the Soapbox and pound on about GW?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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For God's sake try harder, next time!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
I always thought it was strange when someone says to "respect" the rules. You can "ignore" the rules, "break" the rules, and "follow" the rules. But respecting them seems a bit like worshiping them which is against the rules. Barbossa: First, your return to shore was not part of our negotiations nor our agreement so I must do nothing. And secondly, you must be a pirate for the pirate's code to apply and you're not. And thirdly, the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules. Welcome aboard the Black Pearl, Miss Turner.
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yes, I wondered if it was just me being sensitive and thought "I'll bite my tongue" - but the post beginning with 'Hello Infidels' is just wrong, anywhere, in my books - it doesnt matter that the poster probably has used that to mean 'unbeliever of Pastafarian', there's just so many other ways it can be mis-interpreted
Are you disrespecting The Profit? "Jamie" Dimon
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Putting me right? All I did was mention frappe, and you replied with this: "Café Frappe sounds American and I have never seen these in the UK or France (or Luxembourg or Belgium for that matter" So I (having drunk the damned things all over Europe) told you what a frappe is, and what a cafe frappe is, after which you googled (very badly, getting very incorrect results that claimed that frappe is an American invention) and started up with the "Oh, I've lived in France for years, so I know better than you what a frappe is!" bollocks. If you can't talk to people without googling, try not talking at all -- and also try saying "Oh, I never knew that" instead of googling in an effort to get one up on the person you're talking to. If you can't behave, why don't you just stay in the Soapbox and pound on about GW?
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Café Frappe sounds American
Yes, WITHOUT THE ACCENT! Café frappé (WITH THE ACCENT) is French.
Mark_Wallace wrote:
and I have never seen these in the UK or France (or Luxembourg or Belgium for that matter"
Talking about the 'frappe machine' you said YOU had. frappe machine - Google Search[^] Which I HAVENT seen. And no, you didn't tell me what a Café Frappé is, you linked to a Greek imitation created in the 50s, an imitation of the original French (and most probably Italian) drink which predates the Greek version by at least a century. And no, you didn't tell me what a Caffé frappé is because I have drunk them often enough since I live in the South of France. You really need to learn to understand what people write and not what you think they, or want to, write. Most likely you do this in order to create an argument just as you have done here. Take you own advice eh, and do yourself a favour.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Café Frappe sounds American
Yes, WITHOUT THE ACCENT! Café frappé (WITH THE ACCENT) is French.
Mark_Wallace wrote:
and I have never seen these in the UK or France (or Luxembourg or Belgium for that matter"
Talking about the 'frappe machine' you said YOU had. frappe machine - Google Search[^] Which I HAVENT seen. And no, you didn't tell me what a Café Frappé is, you linked to a Greek imitation created in the 50s, an imitation of the original French (and most probably Italian) drink which predates the Greek version by at least a century. And no, you didn't tell me what a Caffé frappé is because I have drunk them often enough since I live in the South of France. You really need to learn to understand what people write and not what you think they, or want to, write. Most likely you do this in order to create an argument just as you have done here. Take you own advice eh, and do yourself a favour.
Jeeze. Once a troll, always a troll, I suppose.
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Jeeze. Once a troll, always a troll, I suppose.
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A troll is someone who looks for arguments and confrontation. That will be you then Mark.
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A troll is someone who looks for arguments and confrontation. That will be you then Mark.
A troll is someone who keeps on and on and on trying to prove that they're right, even thought they've proven themselves wrong. Me, I just don't run away from a fight. Until it gets too boring to bother with, of course. Can't you google some new "evidence" to "prove" that you knew what frappes are?
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Are you disrespecting The Profit? "Jamie" Dimon
I certainly hope so, no one could/would be more deserving.
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A troll is someone who keeps on and on and on trying to prove that they're right, even thought they've proven themselves wrong. Me, I just don't run away from a fight. Until it gets too boring to bother with, of course. Can't you google some new "evidence" to "prove" that you knew what frappes are?
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Je sais bien 'frappé', j'en ai bu souvent. Mais, toi t'es un troll. C'est evident.